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The real issue with (illegal) immigration
MetroWest Daily News (Mass.) ^ | 09-27-2004 | Rick Holmes

Posted on 09/26/2004 5:35:54 AM PDT by NewRomeTacitus

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To: NewRomeTacitus

Bump!


21 posted on 09/26/2004 7:19:08 AM PDT by TheLion
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To: NewRomeTacitus
A handful of activists in Framingham have been calling on local authorities to round up the people they insist on calling illegal aliens and deport every one of them.

Well, that IS the only accurate term.

22 posted on 09/26/2004 7:43:55 AM PDT by ikka
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To: Alia

Yes there was some tension when Vicente Fox stabbed Bush in the back over the Iraq and War on Terrorism.

There should have been tension when Vicente Fox strutted over here demanding "The Whole Enchilada" --- listing his demands of the USA --- he should have been immediately chastised for those. That was basically the demand for the Mexican take-over of the USA. They were to have complete access to all our jobs, all our education and health care --- no mention of them paying for anything or giving a single thing in return.


23 posted on 09/26/2004 8:07:23 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: NewRomeTacitus; MistyCA
They are peeved at having their simplest restaurant orders lost in translation.

This actually happened to me a couple of weeks ago. I was in a Mexican supermarket that has a small restaurant in it and I ordered a chorizo con huevos breakfast with rice, beans, and flour tortillas. Instead of a breakfast the waitress brought me a breakfast burrito. I told her I didn't want that and that I wanted a breakfast plate. So she scurried away and the next thing I know she comes back with three chorizo con huevos breakfast plates. Since I was by myself why did she bring me three breakfast?

And Bush wants people like this to be the next republican voting bloc? NOT!!

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24 posted on 09/26/2004 8:56:14 AM PDT by Brownie74
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To: MeekOneGOP

Ping!!


25 posted on 09/26/2004 8:58:45 AM PDT by Brownie74
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To: Brownie74
bump!

26 posted on 09/26/2004 9:08:46 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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An employer hotline for verifying immigration status, mandated by Congress in 1986, has never been implemented.

It's going to be implemented in December, 2004. The online Social Security Number verification system, SSNVS is an IT project. Eighteen years ain't bad.

There are restrictions however. Using it is profiling (illegal, ya know) and asking an employer if he verified his employees' legal status is a "hate" crime. :>)

27 posted on 09/26/2004 9:20:06 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (Benedict Arnold was a hero for both sides in the same war, too!)
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To: FITZ
I agree. And I did put myself in Mexico's shoes to gain another perspective. Mexico has been in chaos (outside the designated "tourist" havens) for many years. In times past, Mexico could count upon America in helping Mexico capture notorious criminals, PLUS dealing with those using Mexico enroute from South America. American Liberals destroyed that process, under and during the Clinton Administration.

I have been fighting against illegal immigration policies for many years.

However, what's the difference between Liberals screaming that 911 is Bush's fault; and conservatives screaming that illegal immigration is Bush's fault? Not a whole darned lot it most often, appears to me...

Flame Away, call me a Rino! Have at IT! Go for the bomb. But answer the question, honestly.

President Bush was a mere 9 months into office when 9-11 happened. 3,000 innocents were murdered. That does indeed appear to be #1 to address on the crisis scale, I would think. The INS and INS processes are utterly and absolutely corrupted by liberal policies. Bush should have simply ordered our military to "close the borders" and "shoot at will"? I've read some excellent proposals for remedying the "illegal immigrant" policies. But after 15 hard years of liberals opening all portals to our country to criminals, illegal immigrants, and terrorists... somehow President Bush is supposed to just wave a magic wand, and have the borders be sealed, and the INS totally cleansed? Wrongo! Do a freerepublic search on "illegal immigrants" -- and what you will find are MAJOR PROBLEMS at DMVs all across the nation. So, should Bush have proposed a litmus test for anyone working at the DMV's? Heck.. President Bush can't even get honest judges appointed to oversee constitutional processes -- because liberals have so utterly corrupted the system via the MSM.

28 posted on 09/26/2004 10:42:21 AM PDT by Alia
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To: Alia
In times past, Mexico could count upon America in helping Mexico capture notorious criminals

The problem for Mexico --- it's so thoroughly corrupt and most of it's officials and politicians are only on the take ---- many are on the powerful drug cartel's payroll. I don't think keeping that government propped up is ultimately going to benefit -- them or us. Right now that government wants to prevent revolution -- and their own forced exile which cuts them off from the money supply -- by our open borders. Open borders isn't helping the situation in Mexico at all because they don't get them to address the real problems in their form of government and their culture. A country that wealthy in natural resources should not have the level of poverty that exists --- the only way for an average Mexican to make it -- is to leave the country and get to the USA --- that needs to stop.

29 posted on 09/26/2004 10:54:07 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: FITZ

I'm on the same page with you here -- and your post was very comprehensive, succinct. Thank you. I agree.


30 posted on 09/26/2004 11:03:46 AM PDT by Alia
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To: eno_
"Bush Republicans like illegal immigration..."

Absolutely NOT true. We grass roots Republicans are dead set against illegal immigration and we make that perfectly clear up through and including the top State Republican ranks in our party. It is only at the White House level they love illegals. This will be the downfall of the party (and the country!) This is the #1 issue where rank and file Republicans part company with GWB. We want the borders closed, the illegals deported, and employers who hire illegals fined!

P.S. What a bitter disappointment Asa Hutchinson has turned out to be. But like I said. He's a sock puppet of the White House and Rove.

31 posted on 09/26/2004 11:06:08 AM PDT by holyscroller (Actions speak louder than bumperstickers)
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To: NewRomeTacitus

"neither George W. Bush nor John F. Kerry wants to talk about"

Neither puts AMERICANS first.

Some choice............


32 posted on 09/26/2004 11:38:25 AM PDT by WhiteGuy (Congress shall make no law... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press...)
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To: martin_fierro

That ought to be posted on every one of these threads...


33 posted on 09/26/2004 11:51:20 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: holyscroller
This is the #1 issue where rank and file Republicans part company with GWB. We want the borders closed, the illegals deported, and employers who hire illegals fined!

But I'm told by several Republicans, right here on this site, that millions pouring into our country illegally is no big deal, and not a real issue with most Americans. I could name these folks, but I wont.

34 posted on 09/26/2004 11:54:16 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: martin_fierro

Martin, as brown eyed, black haired, black bearded individual, I kind of resent that whole physical similarity train of thought.


35 posted on 09/26/2004 11:56:18 AM PDT by Melas
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
It's going to be implemented in December, 2004. The online Social Security Number verification system, SSNVS is an IT project. Eighteen years ain't bad.

We are watching that with interest, William.

Funny, I can be 2000 miles from home, and they can tell within 5 seconds of my bank account is overdrawn by one dollar. Yet some tell us we have no way of knowing if someone is eligible to work in this country and is here illegally?

36 posted on 09/26/2004 11:57:55 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: FITZ

Have you seen "Man on Fire"? Good movie, takes place in Mexico which is shown as hopelessly corrupt. Out on VHS and DVD now. Ignore the critics who pan it.


37 posted on 09/26/2004 11:59:01 AM PDT by dennisw (Gd is against Amelek for all generations.)
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To: Melas
brown eyed, black haired, black bearded individual

Unless you're also in this country illegally, I'm not sure what your point is.

38 posted on 09/26/2004 12:03:33 PM PDT by martin_fierro ('n'at.)
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To: martin_fierro

His point evaded me too.


39 posted on 09/26/2004 2:39:33 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
But I'm told by several Republicans, right here on this site, that millions pouring into our country illegally is no big deal, and not a real issue with most Americans. I could name these folks, but I wont.

*cough* bayourod *cough*

40 posted on 09/26/2004 3:12:43 PM PDT by usadave
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