Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

New Iran missiles can reach London
WorldNetDaily ^ | September 25, 2004 | Unknown

Posted on 09/25/2004 5:50:59 PM PDT by LSUfan

Iran said today it has successfully test-fired a long-range "strategic missile" and delivered it to its armed forces, saying it is now prepared to deal with any regional threats and even the "big powers."

Iran's new missiles can reach London, Paris, Berlin and southern Russia, according to weapons and intelligence analysts.

(Excerpt) Read more at worldnetdaily.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: armsbuildup; iran; missiles; napalminthemorning; southwestasia; wot
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 41-6061-8081-100 ... 141-156 next last
To: M Kehoe

My thoughts exactly!


61 posted on 09/25/2004 7:23:50 PM PDT by MichiganCheese (We will crush the Girlie-Men and all their spitballs are belong to us!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: 2fast4u
Your LIBERAL Brain and Mouth just Betrayed You!

DEMON-RAT...T R O L L!

Now Go Back to Flip-Flop Kerry and give him the Report.

And Tell...TaRAZOR TOUNGE To...SHOVE IT!

62 posted on 09/25/2004 7:28:03 PM PDT by Simcha7 ((The Plumb - Line has been Drawn, T'shuvah/Return for The Kingdom of HaShem is at hand!))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: LSUfan

What a conincidence. The Brits just happen to have a pile of well tested missiles that can reach Tehran.


63 posted on 09/25/2004 7:39:12 PM PDT by muir_redwoods
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2fast4u

You miss the point. Iraq was the place to establish a front not only against terrorism but against terrorist sponsoring states. Iran knows this [even tho the liberials, media, and not too surprising many others DON'T]...this is exactly why they are flexing their inferior muscle...they totally believe Bush will "go" after Iran, some time after election. Those ruling in Iran are not fooled like media and liberials, they know all about their part in terrorism against the US and know the US is coming. This is the only play they have left themselves - nuclear. It is a shame that most Iranian citzens want democracy.

Afganistan and Iraq were the absolute best places to take first. Remember Bush saying he would go after terrorism wherever it lived and that it would take a while? He was not talking about half measures but is committed to taking terrorism out now rather than have this nation and whole world suffer the greater strength of these madmen for the next century. What would you perfer a decade or two of war on terrorism or terrorist strikes here for the next 100 years or so?

BTW - getting rid of Saddam and bringing freedom to Iraq was wonderful bonus! Agreed?


64 posted on 09/25/2004 7:40:39 PM PDT by free_life
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: LSUfan

Axis of Evil No. 2 should be careful not to receive a visit from the Israeli Air Force with assistance of our own. That's a nasty visit that might dissuade the mullahs in Iran.


65 posted on 09/25/2004 7:40:48 PM PDT by Paulus Invictus
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2fast4u

Consider this your creaming.

Iraq = strategic positioning for new bases

Iran and N. Korea ARE being handled. Ask your MSM's why it is not covered.

So your DU talking points are for what reason?


66 posted on 09/25/2004 7:43:39 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: jimbo123

bump


67 posted on 09/25/2004 7:44:44 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: LSUfan

>>>That's the real lesson here. NK is untouchable

For us, yes. But Putin has been in there. :)


68 posted on 09/25/2004 7:46:11 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: LSUfan

Good post. George Bush has a strategy, which is more than Clinton ever had. The risks are great; but he is doing something. When W wins in November, I expect a change in the attitude of some of these nations. Right now, they are hanging tough hoping that sKerry pulls off a surprise victory.


69 posted on 09/25/2004 7:52:42 PM PDT by maro (T)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: Gucho

If Kerry gets elected [very unlikely] the world will quickly become a very very dangerous place...remember Carter and Iran? The stakes are even higher now as the time to a warfront here in North America is shorter if the war taken too them is stopped or delayed to much longer.


70 posted on 09/25/2004 7:52:54 PM PDT by free_life
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 51 | View Replies]

To: All
Here's some more info:


DOSSIER: John Bolton

Weighing the options: U.S. faces closing window of opportunity to stop Iran's nukes

Bolton has concluded that Teheran no longer fears a showdown with the international community.

John Bolton
  • Task: U.S. undersecretary of state for arms control and international security
  • Age: 54
  • Whereabouts: Washington, D.C.
Undersecretary of State John Bolton could have a leading voice in the advice being given to President George W. Bush concerning the following questions: How close is Iran to nuclear weapons capability, and what should be done about it?

With Iran surviving another session of the International Atomic Energy Agency board of governors meeting, Bolton has concluded that Teheran no longer fears a showdown with the international community. Bolton has been pressing the Bush administration to adopt a plan of action combining diplomacy with a healthy dose of interdiction and military measures.

Last week, the United States lost another battle at the IAEA's board of governors meeting in Vienna. The 35-nation board rejected a U.S. effort to set a deadline for an end to Iran's uranium enrichment program. Instead, the board set a Nov. 25 deadline to review Iran's nuclear program and called for the suspension of Teheran's uranium enrichment activities.

The Sept. 18 resolution called for a halt to a range of Iranian nuclear activities and expressed concern over Iran's intention to introduce 37 tons of yellowcake, a milled uranium oxide that is the first element in the process to enrich uranium. But the resolution did not threaten any measures against Teheran.

"Iran [should] immediately suspend all enrichment-related activities, including the manufacture or import of centrifuge components, the assembly and testing of centrifuges," the resolution stated. The resolution "calls again on Iran, as a further confidence-building measure, voluntarily to reconsider its decision to start construction of a research reactor moderated by heavy water."

The U.S. intelligence community has significantly revised its forecast of an Iranian nuclear weapon. Without much fanfare, the CIA and Defense Intelligence Agency have determined that Teheran has set 2005 as the year when Iran achieves indigenous nuclear capability. A minority view in the intelligence community is that Iran has already acquired at least three nuclear weapons on the black market from the former Soviet Union.

Bolton has been pressing the Bush administration to adopt a plan of action combining diplomacy with a healthy dose of interdiction and military measures.
In a worst-case scenario, U.S. intelligence has set 2005 as the year in which Iran would be able to produce a nuclear bomb or a sufficient amount of fissile material to quickly produce one. In the best-case scenario, Iran would be delayed until 2007. The intelligence community has concluded that Iran has acquired all the expertise and equipment needed for uranium enrichment, warhead design and delivery systems. By 2007, Iran could accumulate a nuclear arsenal.

The IAEA resolution failed to set an automatic trigger that would send the Iranian nuclear issue to the United Nations Security Council for possible sanctions. The agency, over U.S. objections, also insisted that the resolution contain a clause reiterating Iran's right to administer a civilian nuclear program.

For his part, IAEA Director-General Mohammed El Baradei said inspectors have not found evidence that Iran was producing nuclear weapons. But the IAEA's latest report said inspectors required further study of Iran's nuclear program, including such issues as enriched uranium contamination, the scope of the P-2 centrifuge program and the timeframe of Iran's plutonium separation experiments.

Bolton's job is trying to figure out what the administration should do.

He sees Iran's nuclear weapons program as being closely linked to the Shihab-3 intermediate-range program, a missile expected to be launched over the next few days as part of the Ashura military exercise. Iran has succeeded in acquiring a warhead suitable for a nuclear payload and is even undergoing tests of this during 2004.

A nuclear Iran would spark a nuclear race throughout the Middle East.

The most likely candidates include largely Arab allies of Washington and signatories of the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty.

Here's the lineup: Algeria already has a major nuclear research center suitable for fissile material production and guarded by anti-aircraft batteries.

Egypt has been busy building a nuclear infrastructure, including a large nuclear desalinization plant and is suspected of receiving nuclear technology from Libya.

The list goes on. Iraq has the nuclear know-how and experience under Saddam Hussein. Saudi Arabia has been discussing with Pakistan the lease of nuclear weapons. Syria has been acquiring Chinese and Russian help. Turkey possesses the nuclear network of Pakistani nuclear scientist Abdul Qadeer Khan.

Currently there is little stomach in the Bush administration for a U.S. military conflict with Iran. The Pentagon knows Iran could retaliate with a massive attack on U.S. troops in neighboring Iraq. Teheran could order a sustained Shi'ite insurgency targeting the U.S. military presence throughout Iraq and a Hizbullah offensive in the Middle East.

Still, the Pentagon has expressed its assessment that Washington has a window of opportunity in stopping Iran's nuclear weapons program. With about 200,000 U.S. troops in the Persian Gulf, the United States could not only strike a range of Iranian nuclear weapons sites but could respond to any massive retaliation by Teheran. In other words, Pentagon circles say, "If there is a showdown, let it be now, while we have the troops, the assets and the motivation."

There are serious difficulties with this option. First, officials said, U.S. air strikes would not make a dent in eliminating the underground Iranian nuclear facilities. Even nuclear bunker-busters won't work.

Moreover, the United States does not have enough troops in the region for a real land invasion of Iran. A series of simulations conducted by the CIA and DIA determined that any limited U.S. military strike against Iran would quickly turn into a full-scale war.

The State Department, particularly Secretary of State Colin Powell, has been against the military option. Powell does not believe the United States could identify nuclear weapons targets in Iran and agrees with a CIA assessment that Teheran has long duplicated nuclear weapons facilities in military bases throughout the country.

Instead, Powell prefers an accelerated diplomatic route that seeks to bring the Iranian nuclear issue to the United Nations Security Council in a move that would lay the groundwork for any future military confrontation with Iran later in the decade. Meanwhile, the State Department has promoted the idea of a "grand bargain," allowing Iran to keep civilian nuclear facilities if it ends uranium enrichment.

Nobody expects Iran to accept the deal, but Teheran's rejection could win the European Union and Arab League states to Washington's desire for heavy sanctions on Iran. Officials said that with an Iranian economy 90 percent dependent on oil exports, sanctions could be a serious option.

Both the Pentagon and Foggy Bottom believe that Iran, bolstered by North Korea's nuclear and missile expertise, will be the leading rival to the United States in the Mideast over the next 20 years. But they envision a collapse of the Islamic regime in Teheran as ruling mullahs are swallowed up by the rapid growth of secular urban young people. A military invasion of Iran would only bolster the mullahs.

Bolton's position appears to be somewhere in the middle. Unlike the Pentagon, Bolton wants to wait another few months until the international community has had a chance to see the IAEA assessment of Iran's nuclear program. He also wants a serious discussion of the implications of a nuclear Iran at the review conference of the NPT in May 2005.

Bolton believes that the deadline to deal with Iran is the end of 2005. Until then, he and his colleagues hope Washington could draft support for a military option in cooperation with Britain, Iraq, Israel, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and Turkey.

Iran is not working in a vacuum. The U.S. intelligence community has determined that China has been supporting Iran's nuclear weapons program.

China has used North Korea as a conduit for such help. Iran has paid handsomely for North Korean help and Pyongyang has used the money to develop its own nuclear weapons. Much of that money was used to acquire components from the Khan's Pakistani network. Islamabad has refused to cooperate with the IAEA's investigation of Iran.

Another option is for the United States to bolster its support for Iranian opposition groups, including the Mujahadeen Khalq. The Mujahadeen has little support in Iran but is disciplined and deadly and could be used to attack Iranian nuclear sites without an open U.S. military attack.

Officials could also support the royalist opposition as a counterweight.

Most officials don't believe the administration will decide on the Iranian debate until early 2005. The timeframe includes the U.S. presidential elections in November, the IAEA board of governors meeting later that month and the Iraqi elections in January 2005. After that, the attention of the U.S. intelligence and military establishment will be on Iran.


Geostrategy-Direct, www.geostrategy-direct.com, September 28, 2004
Copyright © 2003 East West Services, Inc. All rights reserved.

71 posted on 09/25/2004 8:03:23 PM PDT by datura (Kerry 's "plans" are merely a distraction. He plans to let Islam win. It's "easier".)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 70 | View Replies]

To: 2fast4u

Think strategy. Now that we're parked in Iraq, next door to Iran by the way, we have a really excellent base of operations. As for being tied down, we have plenty of carrier based forces to work Iran over beyond belief. In case you haven't checked your atlas lately we have forces in two other countries, Afghanistan and Turkey that border Iran. I don't even see why we have to invade. Cripple the mullahs and let the Iranian people have their way with them.

I think we're going to play backup to Israel. They'll take out Iran's nuke facilities and we'll be standing by in case the Iranians feel froggy. If the Iranians attack, I'm sure we'll be disappointed to defend ourselves.


72 posted on 09/25/2004 8:08:01 PM PDT by meatloaf
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: LSUfan


Having read most of this thread, as well as the potential troll who questions Iraq...I have a question

How has Iraq distracted the US from the war on Terror?

Is our Military unable to handle multiple encounters? No.

If it is a distration, I have to ask, where is it then that our troops should be? Iran? Syria? North Korea?

Are the same people that say "invading Iraq is a distraction" also suggesting we should have instead invaded Iran or Syria or North Korea? Knowing how leftists think, the answer is of course NO in which case their argument is partisan, pinko bullshnit.


73 posted on 09/25/2004 8:08:11 PM PDT by Malsua
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Comment #74 Removed by Moderator

To: LSUfan
Iran's new missiles can reach London, Paris, Berlin and southern Russia, according to weapons and intelligence analysts.

Hmmmmm .... the question now becomes ... will Europe cross their fingers and hope Israel takes them out ... or will they have to deal with this?

75 posted on 09/25/2004 8:28:40 PM PDT by Mo1 (Why is the MSM calling the Vietnam Vets and POW's a suspected group??)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2fast4u

2fast4u I apologize that post was meant to be directed to LSU___ something or other...can't remember it's nick.


76 posted on 09/25/2004 8:34:48 PM PDT by free_life
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 74 | View Replies]

To: LSUfan

Solution: Let Iran develop all the nukes and missiles it wants - we secretly sell them (through a bogus front company, Cheney and Halliburton have dozens for this purpose) the guidance chips that directs them all to Paris!

Vive l'Nuke!


77 posted on 09/25/2004 8:39:00 PM PDT by DTogo (U.S. out of U.N. U.N out of U.S.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2fast4u
It seems harder and harder to justify Iraq when NK and Iran are about to go nuclear and minute.

Sweetie .. Iran didn't build those nukes in just three years ..

But guess what they don't have anymore ... friendly borders


78 posted on 09/25/2004 8:47:40 PM PDT by Mo1 (Why is the MSM calling the Vietnam Vets and POW's a suspected group??)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: 2fast4u

Jefferson was right! But sometimes the oppressed need the help of the free to become free themselves. In the long run only the overthrow of the tyrants controlling the populations of that part of the world will we be able to crush most terrorist organizations. They must lose their caves to hide in.

Taking Iraq was all about taking on terrorism ..all the muslim countries are about terrorism...Iraq was the absolute best place to establish a war front in. Actually the progress in Iraq is very remarkable. Just consider what was established in Iraq and how far the Iraqi people have come from that, it is going to be messy for sometime yet, but I see it as farther along than I would have guessed a year ago.

This is not a TV MacWar...it will take much resolve and blood to undo decades of looking the other way. We must be committed to the long term resolve to see this through. Nukes by themselves will never make us or anybody safe. Turn off the TV and consider the VAST number of people in that part of the world who believe their god will lead them to victory over the whole world - that has to be taken apart and the dream of a better and peaceful life established. War is about establishing peace at it's conclusion or otherwise there is no end other than total destruction. Peace is fruit of freedom and freedom must be fought for. So when the freedom of the free is threatened they have to fight to stay free, but always with the end goal of peace or they have already lost their freedom.


79 posted on 09/25/2004 9:05:29 PM PDT by free_life
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 74 | View Replies]

To: jimbo123

And what exactly is a "zot"? I`ve heard it has something to do with trolls.


80 posted on 09/25/2004 9:15:46 PM PDT by nomad
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 41-6061-8081-100 ... 141-156 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson