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Death is not a final diagnosis — Murder rates in US cities comparable to Iraq!
Jewish World Review ^
| Sept. 24, 2004
| Drs. Michael A. Glueck & Robert J. Cihak
Posted on 09/24/2004 7:17:50 AM PDT by Homo_homini_lupus
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To: AlexW
Got something near to hand for you.
Businessweek, 28OCT02, p12: "Casualties of War and Piece" (a small table, not an article). Most recent data read thus:
1999-2001: 1.37 million avg active duty troops
Cause and number of deaths in that period:
Terrorist attack: 70
Accidents: 1,258
Hostile Action: 0
Homicide: 110
Self inflicted: 405
Data from DoD
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posted on
09/24/2004 7:58:00 AM PDT
by
Gefreiter
("Flee...into the peace and safety of a new dark age." HP Lovecraft)
To: JasonC
Please keep in mind that all figures in such back of the envelope guesses have to be taken as order of magnitude estimates, only. They can easily be off by a factor of 2. (Iraqi civilians might be 2-3 or might be as high as 5 etc).
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posted on
09/24/2004 7:58:19 AM PDT
by
JasonC
To: Homo_homini_lupus
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posted on
09/24/2004 8:00:35 AM PDT
by
drq
To: Gefreiter
No, not "Piece", "Peace"- sheesh G get it together...
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posted on
09/24/2004 8:00:54 AM PDT
by
Gefreiter
("Flee...into the peace and safety of a new dark age." HP Lovecraft)
To: Conservativegreatgrandma
"...Yea, and I've been wondering what would be the death rate here in the US of 130,000 men in this age group in a similar length of time..."
My husband and I were discussing this very thing just the other night.
I am so proud of our military and grieve every death and injury in Iraq. I believe they know their importance in the defense of this country, and in eliminating terrorism. And we should honor them.
I also believe that the media portray every death as "Bush's fault" and Kerry goes around saying things like "Keeping our troops safe", Bring home the troops" "Elect him to keep the troops from suffering needless death."
Well, what exactly is the purpose of a military if not to defend the country? They are defending us against the very people who want to come here and kill more innocent people as in the 9/11 attacks. I believe the military understands that far more then Mr. Kerry, who seem to believe terrorists will stop the terror if only the troops are brought home. How degrading. Kerry thinks the people should protect the troops, and fails to acknowledge that the troops are doing an admirable job protecting the people. Which by-the-way is exactly their purpose.
I am not disrespecting anyone in the military when I say that any group of 130,000 +/- suffers the loss of 1,000 over the course of a year. Be it accident, violence, suicide, illness and natural causes. I've personally attended more than 12 funerals.(this year) Only two were elderly. The rest were between 25 and 40.
It was a democrat who introduced a bill to reinstate the draft. (Rangle) And Kerry who used that proposed bill to accuse President Bush of wanting to secretly reinstate the draft. Collusion or what? Political trickery or what?
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posted on
09/24/2004 8:16:34 AM PDT
by
pizzalady
(Good, will always triumph over Evil, Truth, will always triumph over Lies!)
To: Gefreiter
1999-2001: 1.37 million avg active duty troops
Cause and number of deaths in that period:
Terrorist attack: 70
Accidents: 1,258
Hostile Action: 0
Homicide: 110
Self inflicted: 405
Data from DoD
Wondering if these are per year or for the 2 or three year time period ... can you specify please?
Also, I am very happy with the info: "...during calendar years 2002 and 2003 show a comparable death toll exists in several US cities. Los Angeles, Chicago and New York City reported 1,168, 1,246 and 1,184 murders during the subject 24-month period." I knew it was close to this, but having the numbers posted is great.
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09/24/2004 9:04:50 AM PDT
by
AFPhys
((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
To: AFPhys
Yeah, the numbers are for the entire time span indicated. It's unclear here because you can't see the table and have to rely on my typing.
The years reported go 1990-92; 1993-95; 1996-98; and 1999-2001.
Number of accidents drops slightly from 1993-2001; homicides and self-inflicted deaths drop nearly in half. The period 1990-92 reports 2,487 deaths by accident, but I believe that's so high due to huge GW1 deployments.
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09/24/2004 9:51:18 AM PDT
by
Gefreiter
("Flee...into the peace and safety of a new dark age." HP Lovecraft)
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