Posted on 09/21/2004 8:28:06 PM PDT by Stoat
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Too late...I forced myself to watch the video yesterday.
How are these people going to change? What can we possibly do to show them that our way is the right way?
This is the beginning of the end, as far as I am concerned. It's a good verses bad battle that only Jesus will win.
We're going to find out, sooner or later,
If Abdul will pray, to a glowing crater.
I don't think they can reform Islam to make it into some tolerant kind of religion --- they need to just face that and work on ways to convert out --- right now they can't convert into better religions because the others would kill them --- that's what the Koran instructs them to do with those who would leave Islam. In reality, it's a death penatly against any who criticize in any way the mullahs and imans or Islam --- there is no freedom of thought.
Warlike religions reform when they learn that war does not avail. A complete and utter defeat of the Islamists is, paradoxically the kindest thing we can do for the Muslims, as well as a necessity for our own preservation.
I've had more than enough islam for one day
The middle east demographic is very young people, there is a chance here ok. thats all Im saying. A beginning. You cant just wipe an entire religion from the face of the earth. The terrorist are islamo-facists monsters. YES, Kill them. But not people that yearn to be free too just because they are muslim. Its just not that simple. You cant condemn an entire religion because of the evil acts of some. Can we condemn catholicism for burning witches? for killing people because they said the Earth revolved around the sun? Not all catholics supported those things back then. Not all muslims support terrorism. Yes Many Iraqis support us. Even if it is only 10 percent that is A LOT of people who are muslim on OUR side. And it will grow with time. And it will be because of our very brave President.
Now here is where someone always responds with pictures of people celebrating 9-11, eating candy, pictures from the WTC, beheadings, etc. YES I KNOW. It exists. Its evil. That is what we are fighting. Evil. NAZIs were christians, So What! That does not make christians evil does it? Judge people by their deeds. Not their religion. Each human being deserves that. Private Ryan was rescued because of a muslim. We are stronger with good muslims on our side then without them. We need them. We need translators. We need freedom loving muslims to help us. We need them to be Americas eyes and ears where we cannot go.
Iran allowed Fahrenheit 911 to be shown, (big surprise) But listen to what this Iranian said..........
"They are showing this film to erase from our minds the idea that America is the great saviour," said Hirad Harandian, another cinemagoer at the uptown Farhang cinema.
My God! THAT is what we are fighting for. This man understands. WE can do it. Dont give in to blind hate. That is what the enemy does.
Im pretty sure President Bush would agree.
"Private Ryan was rescued because of a muslim."
Sorry, Private Lynch.
Individual muslims might convert out, but the vast majority are islemmings, heading for a sea cliff.
There would still be the problem of the Koran --- it directly commands them to kill all Jews and Christians and force the world into submission to them --- the Arabs and follow the ways of the pedophile thug rapist named Mohammed who murdered many innocent people himself.
Islam can go the way of previous religions like those of Moloch and Baal and the Aztecs'. Not all religions have to survive --- some cannot change enough to be worthwhile having around.
I think if their clerics and those who follow them were taken out, most --- the ones we refer to as the peaceful moderates would just forget Islam quickly enough. I read somewhere recently that many of the youth of Iran are now agnostics.
I don't think there is too much hope for many Arabs because to them Islam is their nationalism --- it's all about Arab supremacy and Arab control over the world but I can see the non-Arab Muslims reverting back or finding other belief systems.
Radical islam is the essence of islam. It won't be defeated by going after indivuduals, that's like trying to attack a field of grass by clipping a few of the tallest blades. It'll be defeated when allah is shown to muslims conclusively to be an impotetent faker.
Yes --- I agree with that --- going after the people --- either as a group or individuals isn't going to be that effective --- we'll have to do more than that --- Mecca at some point needs to be destroyed --- then they have nothing to bow down to and nothing to worship.
It ends at mecca. The question is, how many millions will die first?
Sounds to me like they are getting nervouse these days .It would take a long time for me to trust ANY pretense of sincerity from the Moslem community.
I'm starting to wonder what "moderate" muslims are thinking when they are looking at you. How you would look with your head being cut off? I can't trust them, I just can't, since lying to infidels to promote islam seems to be SOP.
Much of the problem the Muslims have is when they first came here, it was usually just to universities and they also tend to come to big cities like Detroit. They looked around and thought they had us pretty figured out --- we looked like squishy liberals from what they saw at the universities --- a people ripe for a take-over. Too bad for their own sakes they didn't get a look at the other America --- because they're going to find their efforts have been for nothing --- they should be seeing on our faces now a look that shows we're not going to allow them to take this country and force us under their domination.
"They who judge by the group are peawits, We take men one at a time."
Sgt. Killrain (The Killer AngelsMichael Shaara)
Yep, there's steel under the jello in this country, which they will discover in time.
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