[FITZ]

I don't think they can reform Islam to make it into some tolerant kind of religion --- they need to just face that and work on ways to convert out --- right now they can't convert into better religions because the others would kill them --- that's what the Koran instructs them to do with those who would leave Islam. In reality, it's a death penatly against any who criticize in any way the mullahs and imans or Islam --- there is no freedom of thought.

[The_Reader_David]

I would hold out some hope for Islam's reformation. Unforunately for us and for many of the benighted followers of Mohammed, the way to it probably lies through a war and a defeat of Islam's pretentions as shocking as the seige of Munster was to the originally warlike Mennonites who wanted to establish the Kingdom of God on earth by force of arms, but after their defeat became strict pacifists, or the atomic bombing and unconditional surrender of Japan was to the devotees of official Shinto who subseqently embraced the no-war constitution given Japan by the American victors with surprising zeal.

Warlike religions reform when they learn that war does not avail. A complete and utter defeat of the Islamists is, paradoxically the kindest thing we can do for the Muslims, as well as a necessity for our own preservation.

[Travis McGee]

Individual muslims might convert out, but the vast majority are islemmings, heading for a sea cliff.