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Islam Denounces Terrorism (extremely important website)
IslamDenouncesTerrorism.com ^ | August 1, 2002 | Harun Yahya

Posted on 09/21/2004 10:57:16 AM PDT by GIJoel

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To: GIJoel
If we are to defeat terrorism, we must come together like they did in the Lord of the Rings. Some of us are Elves, some Hobbits, Dwarves, Eagles, Ents, etc.

Yes but Sauron never did, did he?

21 posted on 09/21/2004 11:22:09 AM PDT by asformeandformyhouse (Despite the high cost of living, it remains popular.)
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To: tiamat
Look, if I really cared, I could throw stuff at you out of the Bible that is every bit as bloody and bad.

I don't think you could.

Difference is: Judaism and Christianity EVOLVED.

No, they haven't. They are the same as they were when G-d made Adam.

I'm not supporting the idea that Islam = terrorism. I'm just saying that it's not about a religion evolving. The understanding of that religion changes over the centuries, true. But the texts have not evolved, and Christianity and Judaism are still based upon those texts.

Shalom.

22 posted on 09/21/2004 11:22:27 AM PDT by ArGee (After 517, the abolition of man is complete)
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To: OK

This is a good point, one of which I consistently remind people. For every "See?! Islam is peaceful!" quote from the Qur'an, there are 5 "Kill the Infidel!" quotes.


23 posted on 09/21/2004 11:22:42 AM PDT by jcb8199
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To: GIJoel

In all seriousness I have a way for small a group of Muslims to get some headlines for their cause.

Have all Muslim New York Taxi drivers pull over and stop for 1 minute and stand next to their cabs protesting terrorism. They would get so much press it wouldn't be funny.


24 posted on 09/21/2004 11:28:05 AM PDT by IamJustright
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To: tiamat
So what can we as FReepers do to spread this?

Why not spread the truth?
This site is an attempt to reign in the worldwide anti-Islam movement that is rapidly growing among ex-muslims.

Islam is not a religion of peace. That is a con job to sucker the west. Peace with Islam is not possible. If you want the truth about Islam, visit the FaithFreedom website. There you will find ex-muslims who are fighting against terrorism and tyranny. These people have literally put their lives at risk to speak the truth.
25 posted on 09/21/2004 11:31:25 AM PDT by mugs99 (Restore the Constitution)
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To: tiamat

Don't be deceived. Christianity has not EVOLVED into peaceful nothingness. While Jesus showed the world the depth of God's love and forgiveness, the grace period to take advantage of that is not eternal.


26 posted on 09/21/2004 11:34:25 AM PDT by Dogbert41
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To: ArGee

Yeah, actually, I could.

I was actually planning on going to a seminary. Had the money, and interviews and everything.

And then I REALLY started doing some reading and decided against THAT and gave up Christianity for Lent.


If I was GOING to choose a main-stream religion, I'd be a Jew, but a bunch of that would be out of sympathy and solidarity for Israel, so i do not. .

Yes, both Christian and Judaism EVOLVED.

We don't have Crusades being launched with the Pope's blessing in order to glom onto land and resources, old ladies aren't being burned at the stake, Jews aren't being forced to live in ghettos and children on Indian reservations aren't having their names changed and being forced to convert to Christianity or forbidden to speak their native languages.


27 posted on 09/21/2004 11:35:07 AM PDT by tiamat ("Just a Bronze-Age Gal, Trapped in a Techno-World!")
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To: IamJustright

My point, if you haven't guessed yet, is that Islam is perhaps THE MOST MISUNDERSTOOD religion in the West. The Communists and their allies on the political Left are working overtime to place the blame for global terrorism on Islam. And they have succeeded in this goal if the above posts are any indication of the mindset of your average conservative. As I have said over and over on the WE ARE THE NEXT TARGET and TERRORISTS IN MUSLIM DISGUISE threads, the US is being taken for a ride by Communists/Marxists posing as Muslims.


28 posted on 09/21/2004 11:36:13 AM PDT by GIJoel
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To: mugs99

first, because I am not a Christian.

I WAS, and then decided that I don't want to work for a God that condemns 98 percent of the world's population to a Hell.

Think about it: Buddhists, Hindus, Taoists, Shintoists, ..... according to mainstream Christianity those are all going You Know Where. the Hindus and Buddhists are the most populous and make up most of the world...What sort of God damns that many of the people he supposedly created right out of the gate?

I believe in God, but not THAT version!


29 posted on 09/21/2004 11:39:35 AM PDT by tiamat ("Just a Bronze-Age Gal, Trapped in a Techno-World!")
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To: GIJoel
BINGO-The battle against evil requires all...

The aggressors can commit such violence only with the intention of attacking religion itself.

It may well be that those who carried out this violence did so to present religion as evil in the eyes of people, to divorce people from religion and to generate hatred towards those who are religiously inclined. Consequently, every attack on American citizens or other innocent people having a religious facade is actually an attack made against religion.

30 posted on 09/21/2004 11:40:14 AM PDT by GOPJ
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To: Dogbert41

Oh, BTW, I agree. Christianity is ANYTHING but peaceful!

Sorry if I unitentionally mislead you!


31 posted on 09/21/2004 11:41:01 AM PDT by tiamat ("Just a Bronze-Age Gal, Trapped in a Techno-World!")
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To: tiamat
Look, if I really cared, I could throw stuff at you out of the Bible that is every bit as bloody and bad.

I don't think that's entirely accurate:  when Yahweh issued "The Mark" to exterminate a population, it was always restricted to a single tribe or city or group of cities.

There was never a Biblical, "from God", order to "Convert or Kill" everyone on the planet.  "The Mark" was never unrestricted.

And, of course, none of the Biblical orders to war are Christian....and even then, most of warfare is from the Torah.

The quran, on the other hand, requires muslims to practice unrestricted warfare on anyone who is not a muslim.

That is the singular most outrageous difference between islam and the worlds living religions.

32 posted on 09/21/2004 11:52:37 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: tiamat
because I am not a Christian

I am not a Christian and FaithFreedom is not a Christian website, Tia. It is mostly Arabs living in the mideast. They are ex-muslims who have turned against Islam. They want peace and prosperity. They do not hate Jews or Christians. They admire Israel and America and that is why Islam wants them dead. Visit the forum there and ask questions. They will welcome you Tia, they believe women and men are equal. You can learn much about your faith there.
33 posted on 09/21/2004 11:55:03 AM PDT by mugs99 (Restore the Constitution)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

That is pretty accurate.

The truth about this is easy to find. Simply ask yourself what type of person would you be if you lived your life trying to be like Buddha, Jesus, Krishna, or Zoroaster? I am thinking St. Francis, Mother Theresa, Ghandi.

Then ask yourself what kind of person you would be if you tried to be like Muhammad? I am thinking Osama Bin Laden, Muhammad Atta, Ayatollah Khomeini, John Muhammad, Lee Malvo...

This ain't rocket science, but it is hard to get people to see it.


34 posted on 09/21/2004 11:57:43 AM PDT by OK
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To: Psycho_Bunny

My koran, and my Bibles are still packed in a box somewhere in one of the piles.

( Just moved. )

I DO know, that in the Koran proper, (NOT one of the commentaries that gets attached to modern korans) there are several exortations to protect and not hassle the "Peoples of the Book", that is , Jews and Christians.



35 posted on 09/21/2004 11:57:49 AM PDT by tiamat ("Just a Bronze-Age Gal, Trapped in a Techno-World!")
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To: GOPJ

Thanks GOPJ,

At least a couple of you are starting to see that the West (including conservatives) has been completely duped by the far Left. They tried to do the same thing in support of the Sandanistas (Nicaraguan Communists) and the ANC (South African Communists) by getting Marxist-Atheists to pose as priests and advocate on behalf of Communist revolution...it was known as "Liberation Theology." However, this wasn't nearly as effective because Christians and Catholics know their own religion!!! But when it comes to the Communists propoganda campaign against Islam, conservatives fall for it hook, line and sinker.


36 posted on 09/21/2004 11:58:54 AM PDT by GIJoel
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To: mugs99

Sorry!

Misunderstood!

I will check out your site!

And THANK YOU!


37 posted on 09/21/2004 11:59:06 AM PDT by tiamat ("Just a Bronze-Age Gal, Trapped in a Techno-World!")
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To: GIJoel

Can the Etheopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots? Then may ye also do good that are accustomed to do evil. Jeremiah 13:23


38 posted on 09/21/2004 12:06:35 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (DEMS STILL LIE like yellow dogs.)
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To: GIJoel; OK; Prime Choice
GIJoel:   “...Islam is perhaps THE MOST MISUNDERSTOOD religion in the West.”


(Kudos and graphic credit to Prime Choice)

--Boot Hill

39 posted on 09/21/2004 12:14:26 PM PDT by Boot Hill (Candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo, candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo!!!)
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To: tiamat

Cool...check it out, but it's not my site. I just recommend it every chance I get.

I also like to suggest to some of our Arab friends to lurk on FR to see just how much debate it takes to keep a free republic working. We're all kings and mullahs here!


40 posted on 09/21/2004 12:15:35 PM PDT by mugs99 (Restore the Constitution)
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