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Zogby Approval Numbers
September 20, 2004 | Michael Katz

Posted on 09/20/2004 11:28:54 AM PDT by Mike10542

So Zogby has Bush's approval number at 47%. I'm wondering though if there is a difference between how they do it and how all the other polling organizations do. The others use the "do you approve or disapprove of Bush's job as president" method while Zogby uses the "how do you rate the President's job: great/good or fair/poor." method. I would think some people that are rating his job as fair would also say they approve if only given the approve or disapprove options, which would pull his approval numbers over 50%, like how the other polling institutions have it. Any ideas?


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: jobapproval; polls; zogby
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1 posted on 09/20/2004 11:28:54 AM PDT by Mike10542
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To: Mike10542

Most right-thinking people disapprove of Zog.


2 posted on 09/20/2004 11:31:24 AM PDT by JohnnyZ ("The common man doesn't look at me as some rich witch." --Teresa Heinz Kerry)
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To: Mike10542
I have become suspect of Zogby. I saw him on CNN for a 20th year celebration of his company and he really appeared anti-Bush.
3 posted on 09/20/2004 11:31:26 AM PDT by RAY (They that do right are all heroes!)
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To: RAY

What do you expect. Do you know who his brother is?


4 posted on 09/20/2004 11:32:33 AM PDT by Sthitch
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To: Mike10542

And yes, it's widely acknowledged that Zog's method produces lower numbers, and the two methods should not be seen as equivalent.


5 posted on 09/20/2004 11:32:39 AM PDT by JohnnyZ ("The common man doesn't look at me as some rich witch." --Teresa Heinz Kerry)
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To: Mike10542

The last time I took a Zobby poll (like last week) it bumped me when it became I as pro-Bush. And I couldn't get back on to finish the poll.

Very suspicious.


6 posted on 09/20/2004 11:32:54 AM PDT by najida (Sometimes I feel like a nut, sometimes I am.)
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To: Mike10542

zombie is a confirmed rat. Right now, he is in there lying like all other rats BUT when time gets short and frenchie's fate is sealed, he'll start showing polls that are in line with the others.
You look at zombie polls and add 6 to 8 for W in order to get a feel for reality.


7 posted on 09/20/2004 11:34:19 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 ( Kerry's not "one of us": catholicsagainstkerry.com. needs your help.)
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To: Mike10542

zombie is a confirmed rat. Right now, he is in there lying like all other rats BUT when time gets short and frenchie's fate is sealed, he'll start showing polls that are in line with the others.
You look at zombie polls and add 6 to 8 for W in order to get a feel for reality.


8 posted on 09/20/2004 11:34:46 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 ( Kerry's not "one of us": catholicsagainstkerry.com. needs your help.)
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To: Mike10542
Zog admits he "adjusts" his numbers if he thinks they aren't accurate.

His general tactic is to produce numbers skewed to the candidate he prefers, and then, in his last poll before an election, rely on traditional sampling and polling, to produce an accurate final poll.
9 posted on 09/20/2004 11:36:18 AM PDT by sharktrager (Nobody deserves our hostility when they are in a time of need.)
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To: Mike10542

Don't believe Zogby's number until the night before the election. He is usually right on target the night before. He understands the Democrat Vote Fraud machine very well. His numbers before then should be ignored. He is a Dem hack until right before the election for credibility sake.


10 posted on 09/20/2004 11:37:06 AM PDT by truthandlife (http://www.neverforgetneveragain.com -- If you want Bush re-elected pass on this video link!!!!)
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To: Mike10542

Zogby is a democrat shill, so I'm sure he words his questions to gain maximum advantage for the democrats, and to make the President look bad.


11 posted on 09/20/2004 11:37:59 AM PDT by Astronaut
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To: Mike10542

Obviously, a good percentage of the "fair" responders would respond "approve" in any other poll, as would all the "good/excellent" responders. Zogs approval ratings can't be compared with other polls.


12 posted on 09/20/2004 11:41:10 AM PDT by zook
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To: Mike10542

I was shocked to see how biased he was and how much hatred he has for Bush administration. He was almost begging Kerry to attack Bush on issues which he (Zogby) believes Bush is weak on.

He kept saying 'issues are out there' (for Kerry to attack.)He even listed and tried to present the 'wording' which Kerry could use to his advantage.

Having said all that, I think Zog-pee knows that if he is going to skew numbers just to boost the morale of his troops, in the end the loss would be his as he can not survive if he is shown to be wrong by a lot.

So, I think the numbers he is reporting are correct and W has only few points lead at best.

He needs to somehow stretch it beyond 5% to overcome marging or error and margin of democrap-fraud.


13 posted on 09/20/2004 11:52:04 AM PDT by The_Republican
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To: Mike10542

How much of the polling was done on Sunday (when a lot of W's supporters were at Church)?


14 posted on 09/20/2004 11:53:01 AM PDT by billb
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To: Mike10542

I prefer the 52% to 55% approval in other recent polls. Zogby is just too biased to the dark side.


15 posted on 09/20/2004 11:54:24 AM PDT by dc-zoo
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To: Mike10542
Never ignore Zogby, but don't put him above any others. I think Gallup has been right just as many time as Zogby in last 20 yrs.

How I rate polls:

Gallup

ABC/WashPost

Zogby

WSJ and Fox tied. It is not a 'hard' ranked list. Newsweek is dead last.

16 posted on 09/20/2004 11:58:44 AM PDT by madison46 (Bandwagon was full when it left the gate - I hope it remains too full for frogs & co.)
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To: Mike10542

Zogby is a muzzie, a secret wahabist I'd bet, but regardless, he's a demonrat, and by that definition, a liar.


17 posted on 09/20/2004 11:58:46 AM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: Mike10542
Does it really matter?...... Use his or any other poll at this stage to gauge trends overtime and not worry about the specific number accuracy. Here are some others to compare to for the year 2004 of which two use the Zog approach and two don't:
http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm


Zogby America Poll. Sept. 17-19, 2004. N=1,066 likely voters nationwide. MoE ± 3.1.

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President Bush -- Job Rating:

.

 

Excellent/
Good

Fair/
Poor

Not
Sure

  % % %
9/17-19/04 47 52 1
9/8-9/04 47 53 -
8/30 - 9/2/04 48 51 1
8/12-14/04 47 52 1
7/26-29/04 44 56 -
7/6-7/04 49 51 0
6/2-5/04 46 54 0
5/10-13/04 42 58 0
4/15-17/04 47 52 1
4/1-4/04 47 53 -
3/17-19/04 46 53 1
1/15-18/04 49 50 1

CBS News/New York Times Poll. Sept. 12-16, 2004. N=1,287 adults nationwide. MoE ± 3 (total sample).

.

"Do you approve or disapprove of the way George W. Bush is handling his job as president?"

.

Approve

Disap-
prove

Don't
Know

%

%

%

ALL 50 42 8
  Republicans 87 11 2
  Democrats 16 77 6
  Independents 46 40 14

.

Trend:      
9/6-8/04 50 43 7
8/15-18/04 46 45 9
7/30 - 8/1/04 44 49 7
7/11-15/04 45 48 7
6/23-27/04 42 51 7
5/20-23/04 41 52 7
5/11/04 44 49 7
4/23-27/04 46 47 8
3/30 - 4/1/04 49 44 7
3/10-14/04 51 42 7
2/24-27/04 47 44 9
2/12-15/04 50 42 8
1/12-15/04 50 45 5


Gallup Poll and CNN/USA Today/Gallup Poll          <GRAPHIC>

.

"Do you approve or disapprove of the way George W. Bush is handling his job as president?"

Approve

Disap-
prove

Don't
Know

%

%

%

N

9/13-15/04

52 45 3 1,022

9/3-5/04

52 46 2 1,018

8/23-25/04

49 47 4 1,004

8/9-11/04

51 46 3 1,017

7/30 - 8/1/04

48 49 3 1,518

7/30-31/04

47 49 4 1,011

7/19-21/04

49 47 4 1,005

7/8-11/04

47 49 4 1,005

6/21-23/04

48 49 3 1,005

6/3-6/04

49 49 2 1,000

5/21-23/04

47 49 4 1,002

5/7-9/04

46 51 3 1,003

5/2-4/04

49 48 3 1,000

4/16-18/04

52 45 3 1,003
4/5-8/04 52 45 3 1,014
3/26-28/04 53 44 3 1,001
3/8-11/04 50 47 3 1,005
3/5-7/04 49 48 3 1,005
2/16-17/04 51 46 3 1,006
2/9-12/04 51 46 3 1,002
2/6-8/04 52 44 4 1,008
1/29 - 2/1/04 49 48 3 1,001
1/12-15/04 53 44 3 1,004
1/9-11/04 59 38 3 1,003
1/2-5/04 60 35 5 1,029


The Harris Poll. Sept. 9-13, 2004. N=1,018 adults nationwide. MoE ± 3.

.

"How would you rate the overall job President George W. Bush is doing as president: excellent, pretty good, only fair, or poor?"

.

Excellent/
Pretty Good

Only Fair/
Poor

Not Sure/
Refused

%

%

%

9/9-13/04 45 54 1
8/10-15/04 48 51 1

6/8-15/04

50 49 1

4/8-15/04

48 51 1

2/9-16/04

51 48 1

18 posted on 09/20/2004 12:09:04 PM PDT by deport (Democrats play hardball at the peewee-league level and then lose)
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To: Mike10542

Zogs puts the respondents that say "fair" as a negative when the word "fair" is not a negative. It is a neutral word. Part of Zogby's special sauce


19 posted on 09/20/2004 12:13:29 PM PDT by The South Texan (The Democrat Party and the leftist (ABCCBSNBCCNN NYLATIMES)media are a criminal enterprise!)
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To: Mike10542

Zogs puts the respondents that say "fair" as a negative when the word "fair" is not a negative. It is a neutral word. Part of Zogby's special sauce


20 posted on 09/20/2004 12:13:41 PM PDT by The South Texan (The Democrat Party and the leftist (ABCCBSNBCCNN NYLATIMES)media are a criminal enterprise!)
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