Zogby Approval Numbers

September 20, 2004 | Michael Katz

[Mike10542]

So Zogby has Bush's approval number at 47%. I'm wondering though if there is a difference between how they do it and how all the other polling organizations do. The others use the "do you approve or disapprove of Bush's job as president" method while Zogby uses the "how do you rate the President's job: great/good or fair/poor." method. I would think some people that are rating his job as fair would also say they approve if only given the approve or disapprove options, which would pull his approval numbers over 50%, like how the other polling institutions have it. Any ideas?

[JohnnyZ]

Most right-thinking people disapprove of Zog.

[RAY]

I have become suspect of Zogby. I saw him on CNN for a 20th year celebration of his company and he really appeared anti-Bush.

[Sthitch]

What do you expect. Do you know who his brother is?

[JohnnyZ]

And yes, it's widely acknowledged that Zog's method produces lower numbers, and the two methods should not be seen as equivalent.

[najida]

The last time I took a Zobby poll (like last week) it bumped me when it became I as pro-Bush. And I couldn't get back on to finish the poll.

Very suspicious.

[jmaroneps37]

zombie is a confirmed rat. Right now, he is in there lying like all other rats BUT when time gets short and frenchie's fate is sealed, he'll start showing polls that are in line with the others.
You look at zombie polls and add 6 to 8 for W in order to get a feel for reality.

[jmaroneps37]

zombie is a confirmed rat. Right now, he is in there lying like all other rats BUT when time gets short and frenchie's fate is sealed, he'll start showing polls that are in line with the others.
You look at zombie polls and add 6 to 8 for W in order to get a feel for reality.

[sharktrager]

Zog admits he "adjusts" his numbers if he thinks they aren't accurate.

His general tactic is to produce numbers skewed to the candidate he prefers, and then, in his last poll before an election, rely on traditional sampling and polling, to produce an accurate final poll.

[truthandlife]

Don't believe Zogby's number until the night before the election. He is usually right on target the night before. He understands the Democrat Vote Fraud machine very well. His numbers before then should be ignored. He is a Dem hack until right before the election for credibility sake.

[Astronaut]

Zogby is a democrat shill, so I'm sure he words his questions to gain maximum advantage for the democrats, and to make the President look bad.

[zook]

Obviously, a good percentage of the "fair" responders would respond "approve" in any other poll, as would all the "good/excellent" responders. Zogs approval ratings can't be compared with other polls.

[The_Republican]

I was shocked to see how biased he was and how much hatred he has for Bush administration. He was almost begging Kerry to attack Bush on issues which he (Zogby) believes Bush is weak on.

He kept saying 'issues are out there' (for Kerry to attack.)He even listed and tried to present the 'wording' which Kerry could use to his advantage.

Having said all that, I think Zog-pee knows that if he is going to skew numbers just to boost the morale of his troops, in the end the loss would be his as he can not survive if he is shown to be wrong by a lot.

So, I think the numbers he is reporting are correct and W has only few points lead at best.

He needs to somehow stretch it beyond 5% to overcome marging or error and margin of democrap-fraud.

[billb]

How much of the polling was done on Sunday (when a lot of W's supporters were at Church)?

[dc-zoo]

I prefer the 52% to 55% approval in other recent polls. Zogby is just too biased to the dark side.

[madison46]

Never ignore Zogby, but don't put him above any others. I think Gallup has been right just as many time as Zogby in last 20 yrs.

How I rate polls:

Gallup

ABC/WashPost

Zogby

WSJ and Fox tied. It is not a 'hard' ranked list. Newsweek is dead last.

[68 grunt]

Zogby is a muzzie, a secret wahabist I'd bet, but regardless, he's a demonrat, and by that definition, a liar.

[deport]

Does it really matter?...... Use his or any other poll at this stage to gauge trends overtime and not worry about the specific number accuracy. Here are some others to compare to for the year 2004 of which two use the Zog approach and two don't:
http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm

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Zogby America Poll. Sept. 17-19, 2004. N=1,066 likely voters nationwide. MoE ± 3.1.

.

President Bush -- Job Rating:
.
		Excellent/ Good	Fair/ Poor	Not Sure
		%	%	%
	9/17-19/04	47	52	1
	9/8-9/04	47	53	-
	8/30 - 9/2/04	48	51	1
	8/12-14/04	47	52	1
	7/26-29/04	44	56	-
	7/6-7/04	49	51	0
	6/2-5/04	46	54	0
	5/10-13/04	42	58	0
	4/15-17/04	47	52	1
	4/1-4/04	47	53	-
	3/17-19/04	46	53	1
	1/15-18/04	49	50	1

CBS News/New York Times Poll. Sept. 12-16, 2004. N=1,287 adults nationwide. MoE ± 3 (total sample).
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"Do you approve or disapprove of the way George W. Bush is handling his job as president?"
.
		Approve	Disap- prove	Don't Know
		%	%	%
	ALL	50	42	8
	Republicans	87	11	2
	Democrats	16	77	6
	Independents	46	40	14
.
	Trend:
	9/6-8/04	50	43	7
	8/15-18/04	46	45	9
	7/30 - 8/1/04	44	49	7
	7/11-15/04	45	48	7
	6/23-27/04	42	51	7
	5/20-23/04	41	52	7
	5/11/04	44	49	7
	4/23-27/04	46	47	8
	3/30 - 4/1/04	49	44	7
	3/10-14/04	51	42	7
	2/24-27/04	47	44	9
	2/12-15/04	50	42	8
	1/12-15/04	50	45	5

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Gallup Poll and CNN/USA Today/Gallup Poll          <GRAPHIC>

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"Do you approve or disapprove of the way George W. Bush is handling his job as president?"
		Approve	Disap- prove	Don't Know
		%	%	%		N
	9/13-15/04	52	45	3		1,022
	9/3-5/04	52	46	2		1,018
	8/23-25/04	49	47	4		1,004
	8/9-11/04	51	46	3		1,017
	7/30 - 8/1/04	48	49	3		1,518
	7/30-31/04	47	49	4		1,011
	7/19-21/04	49	47	4		1,005
	7/8-11/04	47	49	4		1,005
	6/21-23/04	48	49	3		1,005
	6/3-6/04	49	49	2		1,000
	5/21-23/04	47	49	4		1,002
	5/7-9/04	46	51	3		1,003
	5/2-4/04	49	48	3		1,000
	4/16-18/04	52	45	3		1,003
	4/5-8/04	52	45	3		1,014
	3/26-28/04	53	44	3		1,001
	3/8-11/04	50	47	3		1,005
	3/5-7/04	49	48	3		1,005
	2/16-17/04	51	46	3		1,006
	2/9-12/04	51	46	3		1,002
	2/6-8/04	52	44	4		1,008
	1/29 - 2/1/04	49	48	3		1,001
	1/12-15/04	53	44	3		1,004
	1/9-11/04	59	38	3		1,003
	1/2-5/04	60	35	5		1,029

The Harris Poll. Sept. 9-13, 2004. N=1,018 adults nationwide. MoE ± 3.
.
"How would you rate the overall job President George W. Bush is doing as president: excellent, pretty good, only fair, or poor?"
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		Excellent/ Pretty Good	Only Fair/ Poor	Not Sure/ Refused
		%	%	%
	9/9-13/04	45	54	1
	8/10-15/04	48	51	1
	6/8-15/04	50	49	1
	4/8-15/04	48	51	1
	2/9-16/04	51	48	1

[The South Texan]

Zogs puts the respondents that say "fair" as a negative when the word "fair" is not a negative. It is a neutral word. Part of Zogby's special sauce

[The South Texan]

Zogs puts the respondents that say "fair" as a negative when the word "fair" is not a negative. It is a neutral word. Part of Zogby's special sauce