Posted on 09/20/2004 9:49:21 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
Gov. Ernie Fletcher said yesterday that the Kentucky Education Association has "gone too far" by calling for an October strike unless the state improves the health-insurance plan for public school employees.
In a statement released yesterday afternoon, Fletcher urged the union to reconsider, and he said unless that happens, "it is inappropriate for me to negotiate in response to an illegal threat." -- The Courier-Journal
"Medical insurance is expensive, pay your own premiums. Reality check for institutional Dems who are now having to pay their own way through the quagmire that trial attorneys have created."
Exactly!!! And insuring homosexual "partners" has added billions to the expense of health care! When I was growing up, we didn't have to have insurance. We could afford to pay for the services out of pocket. Car insurance, etc. took care of my father's injuries and hospital care when a person nearly killed him. This "right" to socialized medicine is absurd.
Of course. The government has no legal role in educating children
Also, and perhaps even more importantly, public education spends far more per student on average than private schools do and gets far lower achievement (results). Strip off some of the garbage (diveristy, tolerance, gay propaganda etc) and start teaching the three R's and then maybe you can make your case
I'd vote to totally defund the public schools in a heartbeat
Good debate, like good instruction, is never served by calling names
I hate public education because the teachers unions, like all democrats, seek to destroy my way of life and everything I hold dear. (not to mention the fact that public education is unaffordable and gets poor results)
Absolutly. But in private school education they have the option to kick a kid out if he or she is a disruption to others. If you compare the top kids in private school to the top kids in public schools, they are the same. If private schools were required to take Special needs kids, then the results would be the same.
We have to get back to just educating your kids, not being replacement parents. Get all the other junk out and return to the 3 R's is the answer.
What topic do you want to discuss?
Parental influence is the key, I totally agree.
Great point.
Class size is immaterial. Class discipline however is paramount.
I attended a Catholic school from grades 1 to 8. Class size was 35 to 38 for grades 1 to 6 and roughly 24 for grades 7 to 8 (they split 7th and 8th grade into two classes).
The old stories about strict Catholic nuns back then were gospel truth. But everyone learned.
When my class entered the public high school our slowest kid was in the top 25% of the public high school class. Simply because we were forced to learn in grade school.
Not the individual teacher, but our state union is out of control.
Common sense tells me that if all my classmates and I learned well in a class of 35+ in grade school then anyone can learn in a class of 35+ now. Just impose discipline in the schools and kids will learn
We are not allowed to discipline or force a kid to learn. WE don't have a leg to stand on because parents have taken that away from us.
If they fail to learn the material in first grade flunk them and they'll learn it next year. A smaller class size would only hold up those who are ready to learn.
If the parents are upset then they need to work with the child to get the child back up to speed. After all, the parent has the responibility to educate the child, not the public
The NEA and the Department of Education has conditioned parents, taxpayers, administrators and the system to take those powers away from you..
Well THAT is the problem. Reducing class size is not going to make parents more responsible, it's not going to do anything about discipline. That's what people have been saying in this entire thread. Glad you see that now.
You can reduce class size all you want, but you'll still have the discipline problems and lazy parenting that disrupt the educational process.
It isn't that classes have gotten bigger. From the days of the one room schoolhouse when every kid in town was in the same classroom, sizes have been reduced drastically. THAT'S NOT THE DIFFERENCE-MAKER. What has changed is that discipline is lax or non-existent.
Benson, I'd really like to see you answer this question (since this is what the thread is supposed to be about). What kind of health plan are you talking about that will cost $12,000 plus a year? Is it a plan with all the fixings (low or no deductible, low co-pays, full dental and vision, full Rx coverage)?
English grammar not your subject I suppose?
Like I said, hopeless.
no vision or dental. $500 deductable. Not a great plan at all. I really don't understand why our district doesn't find another plan.
7% of 30,000 = 2,660
11,040 - 2,660 = $ 8,380
So you get a tax deduction of $ 8,380 per year (Any medical and dental expenses above 7% of adjusted Gross income, are deductible)
Plus any dental work, co-payments, etc, it adds up to a pretty good discount from the federal government.
Add state and local income taxes, ad it's even more!
And that's only if you don't own a home or have any dependents. If you do, add those deductions in as well, and you're really not paying much in taxes.
My point is that it's not that much different than getting those benefits for free and forfeiting the deductions.
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