Posted on 09/19/2004 5:03:04 PM PDT by pollwatcher
An Interview with Sue Niederer Her Son Was Told by the Recruiter He Wouldn't See Combat; Now He's Dead
By ELIZABETH WEILL-GREENBERG
Seth, 24, was in debt after he graduated from Rutgers University in 2002. He joined the army for money and skills that, he was told, would help land him a job with the CIA or FBI -- his dream jobs. "Not for patriotism," said his mother, Sue Niederer, who is now an anti-war activist. She advised her son to get the recruiter's promises in writing. When Seth asked, the recruiter told him, "Your mother wears your pants for you?"
Seth, who had no training with explosives, was assigned to find enemy remote-controlled bombs. He would then call in experts to deactivate them.
He was killed by a bomb in February 2004, after five months in Iraq. Below is a conversation with Seth's mother, Sue Niederer:...
I wonder why he wanted to work at the CIA or FBI. Patriotism, perchance?
I'm fairly confident that Sue will be scrutinized no matter where she goes or what she does, probably for the rest of her life.
I agree that she's at the very least unstable, and perhaps even psychotic.
There is always a problem with command indifference, even in a hot war. But it does not help anyone to deal with such problems if the one complaining about it is seen as a nutcase. Two different issues.
And then this horrid woman has the gaul to mention sending supplies and sundries to the troops to "keep up their morale..." Hmmm. I guess advocating violence towards the Commander in Chief and claiming that when your son joined the Army, he was guaranteed he would never be in combat really lifts the morale of our troops--NOT!
This woman is crazy. I wonder what kind of mother she really was?
This is the Democrat's and Communist's anti-war poster mother. She is quoted all the time, was in Michael Moore's movie if I am not mistaken.
Your post make no sense to me.
A poster from another thread stated that her son joined the military when she and her hubby would not pay for his college.
She has cracked from the guilt.
I'm not sure I would not as well, but my family would be smart enough to get me to a psych ward for some treatment.
I was struck by her, we deserve everything he (Bush) does to us attitude. US deserved to be attacked, we deserve to suffer---I'm not driving in a car with these people.
How many stories about lost ones families proudly talking about their lost family member with pride? How many families has Bush met with personally? Where they were concerned for him too? This person suffered a great loss. I honor her lost son. We will never forget them. She doesnt understand that all the freedom she enjoys, to say the things she is saying even as horrible as they are, are because of people like her son. I hope some day she will understand. Thats all I can do. She has a right to say whatever she wants.
What an article. What a pathetic lot of Americans we have raised up now, spanning decades...more good than bad, but only by a very fine hair...
He joined because of her cheap bastard husband wouldn't pay for his college tuition. He was apparently not willing to get a job to pay for it either.
I wonder why Sue Niederer doesn't spend a few minutes looking at videos of 9/11 and then pondering what might happen if they blew up the town where she lives, if they set off a dozen suitcase nukes loaded with ebola or worse all over this country. Her son and millions of others would be dead. She says he didn't join for patriotic reasons, but for money and a chance of a job in the CIA or the FBI. Her son was a patriot, although she doesn't realize it. Perhaps in time she will. She should be proud of him.
She should of went to see the recruiter with her son. When we enlist, we enlist or re-enlist with the possibility of going to war. During a war some of us come back and some of us do not. I feel sorry for her loss,but her son gave the ultimate sacrifice and she needs to let it go.
Sorry, free speech does not extend to threatening the President.
It's supposed to be off-limits to criticize a bereft mother but this is beyond the pale. She has no license to speak this way.
I know several parents that wouldn't sign off on student loans for their kids so they kids joined the National Guard to pay for college. I heard one Mom really complaining that her son had to serve all summer in the Guard and had to drop out of some college activities. What do they expect when the won't help with college by signing off on the student loans or help with expenses? These kids and parents were used to getting a free ride through Guard paid college and now reality is hitting home IMHO.
Anybody that would listen to a recruiter needs a reality check. There isn't a recruiter around that could guarantee that someone wouldn't be sent into combat.
He was in debt. If you're looking for me to say patriotism, I'm not. They [the Army] offer you the world. They give you signing bonuses. Give you college, upfront money, health insurance [recruiters are] great salesmen.
Lady, your son was 24 years old. He was old enough to make a decision about enlisting. He was old enough to understand that being in the military isn't just about what goodies you can get from Uncle Sam. Unless you raised him to be naive enough to thinking enlisting during wartime didn't mean the possibility of going to a war zone, I doubt he was nearly as clueless as you make him out to be.
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