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MoveOn Ad Shows American Soldier Surrendering in Iraq
mensnewsdaily.com ^
| 9/18/04
| Jimmy Moore, Talon News
Posted on 09/18/2004 11:54:23 AM PDT by kattracks
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posted on
09/18/2004 11:54:23 AM PDT
by
kattracks
To: kattracks
Ironic that they would use that image, when surrender is exactly what they are calling on us to do.
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posted on
09/18/2004 11:55:55 AM PDT
by
DannyTN
To: kattracks
sinking rhetoric of a defeated America sends a signal to our allies and our enemies that America is not willing to finish the job
That's how Kerry and Jane and others helped us to lose in Vietnam, and now he's trying the same strategy with Iraq in order to advance his own political ambitions.
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posted on
09/18/2004 11:58:19 AM PDT
by
SittinYonder
(Tancredo and I wanna know what you believe)
To: DannyTN
Imagine using the image of a defeated American soldier - the very idea seems absurd to me, but not to the folks over at MoveOn.org. What country is George Soros from?
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posted on
09/18/2004 11:59:16 AM PDT
by
SittinYonder
(Tancredo and I wanna know what you believe)
To: kattracks
To the Dems 1000 is nothing!
There are 1000 babies aborted every day in this country by people who call themselves physicians.
I guess the Dems are more courageous when their enemies are blind and tiny can't shoot back.
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posted on
09/18/2004 12:00:54 PM PDT
by
CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
(3 Purple Hearts? No blood? No Way!!)
To: kattracks
MoveOn Ad Shows American Soldier Surrendering in Iraq
makes sense, George Soros' wet dream is being able to buy Iraq for cents on the dinar.
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posted on
09/18/2004 12:02:07 PM PDT
by
VOA
To: SittinYonder
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posted on
09/18/2004 12:03:11 PM PDT
by
CDB
To: kattracks
Yes, it's back to leftist, anti-American extremism all over again -- Kerry (supported by his sugar-daddy Soros) is again running a political campaign ON THE BACKS OF OUR BRAVE AND PATRIOTIC SOLDIERS!!!!
If I were Bush, I would hold a suprise press conference, with a poster made of THAT PICTURE, and rip the Kerry campaign (and Soros) --- on public TV !!!!! Show the scum for what they are.
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posted on
09/18/2004 12:12:05 PM PDT
by
EagleUSA
To: DannyTN
MoveOn.org =
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posted on
09/18/2004 12:17:58 PM PDT
by
Gucho
To: kattracks
Seditious Traitors BTTT
If and when the real America Civil War comes home to roost, remember all the enemies of America, have them written down.
They'll try to blend into the woodwork and will be terrorists tomorrow, like Ba'athists in Iraq today.
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posted on
09/18/2004 12:19:57 PM PDT
by
ApesForEvolution
(DemocRATS are communists and want to destroy America only to replace it with the USSA)
To: EagleUSA
My repost from another thread:
Over the last few days, there have been many theories about the origin of the memos. Starting with the question of why do such a bad job on the forgeries, some have argued a Rove sting operation, some have argued a DNC operation, directed by the Clintons to discredit the Kerry campaign, and others such as myself have said that this was a Kerry campaign operation all the way.
I now want to revise my theory a bit.IMHO, the political dynamics of this are much more complicated than meets the eye. I have noticed statements by demo political consultants and pundits speaking to the disarray and power struggle within the Kerry campaign. I believe somebody, perhaps Mary Ann Marsh, said "its all about money". That seemed odd to me at the time, but now its all starting to make sense.
I think what we are seeing is a power struggle within the demo party. In effect, there are three DNC groups. One is controlled by the Kennedy wing of the demo party, one is controlled by the Clintonista group, and one emerging group is the far left radical group controlled by people like George Soros. Soros has dumped a pile of money into this campaign, and he wants results, but more importantly, control. The Tides foundations, controlled by TA-RAY-ZA has given money to far left groups. Kerry's record, starting with the Senate testimony, has been decidedly anti-American and far to the left end of the demo party.
With Dean rising in the primaries, the Kennedy and Clinton groups conspired to take Dean out of the race. Dean, I believe, was the Soros wings first choice. Think of Kerry as a compromise candidate who had the backing of the Soros, Kennedy, and Clinton camps. Remember how Kerry initially wanted to take out McAwfull. That was the beginnings of the power struggle. The Clinton camp very cleverly set up Kerry for failure (using their mole advisers) at the convention with the dopey Vietnam bit.They had no need to instigate this memogate campaign, as they wouldn't want to discredit a major liberal media outlet, and Kerry was on his way out already with the Swift Vets.
The Soros wing however, due to the money influence, set up memogate with the full cooperation of the Kerry campaign. They enlisted all the crackpots and rabid Bush haters they could find as willing accomplices. Rather and CBS were prime candidates. They are not interested in Hillary in 08. they are concerned with destroying Bush, and building a powerful coalition far left group. This group will have a significant Communist and other fringe nihilistic influence. Mark my words, I agree with Savage, Soros is the most dangerous figure on the scene today. He has the money to influence a major corporation, such as Viacom. Sumner Redstone would not be taking Viacom down the rathole with CBS unless significant financial influence was being applied. Consider how much money can be brought to bear with the likes of
Soros' many companies and front organizations
Heinz Kerry and the many pension funds and other organizations she controls
Union Pension funds controlled by far left people such as John Sweeny.
Let us all FOLLOW THE MONEY.
Kerry is just a front man for a dangerous coalition of far left groups who want to take the US down a new road. The Clintons, on the other hand, while certainly leftists, are more concerned with personal power and are more pragmatic in applying that power. Soros is mentally unstable, as is Kerry. I do not believe that Hillary wants Kerry to go down in flames taking CBS along with him. The danger is that if all this comes out, the dems will be shut out of the White House for a long time. Can Hillary take that risk?
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posted on
09/18/2004 12:21:57 PM PDT
by
Dat Mon
(clever tagline under construction)
To: SittinYonder
What country is George Soros from? Mr. Soros was born in Hungary.
To: kattracks
I think even Moveon has given up on getting Kerry elected. They will now run desperate ads that might hurt Bush but will assist Soros other agenda of campaign finance reform.
To: kattracks
These people need to leave.
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posted on
09/18/2004 12:37:36 PM PDT
by
Fast1
To: DannyTN
Ironic that they would use that image, when surrender is exactly what they are calling on us to do.It's not ironic, and it wasn't at all accidental.
MoveOn is very publicly calling for an American surrender in Iraq, to turn it over to the "insurgency" (the terrorist extremists).
Michael Moore, for one, said the terrorists in Iraq were "minutemen," like American patriots. The hard left supports anti-American terrorists and wants us to surrender.
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posted on
09/18/2004 12:39:17 PM PDT
by
xm177e2
(Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
To: kattracks
The soldier is not surrendering, but (even worse to me) he is sinking in a quagmire of quicksand. Subliminally this says no matter how long or how hard you fight, all to the bitter end, it will all be for naught.
WE CANNOT LET THE LEFT DO TO IRAQ WHAT THEY DID TO VIET NAM!
And for the last time, Pres Bush DID NOT say "Mission accomplished". He called an end to the combat phase of the war in order for the UN to release sanctions, which would not be done until that point. The sanctions had to be released to allow the necessary aid to flow into Iraq. Tommy Franks discussed this in his book.
The "mission accomplished" banner was made by soldiers and posted as a message to the arriving President that they had indeed concluded their mission. This was the ship that was on it's way back home when it was redeployed and had to go back. It was deployed longer than any other ship and was rightly proud to declare to their CinC "mission accomplished". This was reported long ago and restated in a recent article about the death of the young man who piloted in with GWB. (He died of natural causes, not in battle). They said in the article the soldiers made the banner for the Pres.
So all you lurking DUmmies, shut the h*ll up about the "mission accomplished" thing already. Like 95% of your talking points, it's a lie and a non-issue.
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posted on
09/18/2004 12:52:23 PM PDT
by
Sisku Hanne
(Deprogramming the left, one truth at a time.)
To: kattracks
Moveon.org is a Clinton front group that was formed to encourage Americans to "move on" from the Lewinsky scandal and impeachment proceedings.
The image of an American soldier surrendering can have only one effect: to outrage American citizens and build resolve for victory in Iraq.
No political operative, no matter how twisted, is stupid enough to think that an appeal to surrender will ever gain popular support in America.
Why? Because it never has, not even in Vietnam. That was not a surrender of the American people or American soldiers, but our leaders, to their eternal shame.
Ads like undermine John Kerry far more than they hurt George W. Bush, and Moveon.org knows it.
This is yet another example illustrating a careful, if not subtle, campaign on the part of the Clintons to position Hillary for a presidential run in 2008.
Doing so means ensuring that John Kerry never sits in the oval office, and that's what this is really all about.
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posted on
09/18/2004 12:59:37 PM PDT
by
Imal
(The surest way to get Americans to fight to the death is to demand our surrender.)
To: kattracks
I have seen that ad several times and it is sickening. I would think it is going to turn military personnel AGAINST kerry this November. I sure would be more than ticked off if I was active duty in Iraq and saw that ad. There is no limit to the levels of low that the left is capable of. This ad is a slap in the face to all who serve and those who support them.
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posted on
09/18/2004 1:02:52 PM PDT
by
two23
To: snowsislander
Yeah, I guess in Hungary they would understand how when Americans see images of our soldiers surrendering it makes us feel like grabbing our guns and going to help.
I don't think this is going to help Kerry or MoveOn's mission.
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posted on
09/18/2004 1:16:52 PM PDT
by
SittinYonder
(Tancredo and I wanna know what you believe)
To: kattracks
A new anti-Bush ad from liberal political online action group MoveOn.org features the image of a surrendering American soldier in Iraq.Kerry as president would probably surrender, just like the French, to any terrorist that showed his ugly head?
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posted on
09/18/2004 1:22:35 PM PDT
by
zbogwan2
(Clinton's and Field's noses look pretty similar?)
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