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ANOTHER GUN LAW BITES THE DUST
Fiedor Report On the News #317 ^ | 9-19-04 | Doug Fiedor

Posted on 09/18/2004 11:33:05 AM PDT by forest

It is interesting to learn that I am legal again. Not that I was really concerned about it, that is. The old law was just slightly aggravating to me.

You see, I am the proud owner of an old M1 Carbine. As rifles go, it's just a small 30 caliber semi-automatic. It is not really great for most types of hunting, but very easy to carry and handle. Mine was especially easy to carry and handle because I changed the stock, and a few other little things, to improve its portability and quick shooting ability in the field.

The problem came a decade ago when some ignorant twits in Congress labeled rifles they thought looked mean as "assault rifles" and unconstitutionally banned them. And, as it happened, my little 30 caliber rifle, although handy as heck, just happened to look mean to the uninformed. Hence, it became illegal in that configuration.

Making it legal again was easy. All I did was change the stock back to the original and stopped using the large capacity magazines in public. This in no way made the rifle any less of a weapon. Nor was it any less deadly. But, I suppose, changing it back to the legal configuration, in some people's uninformed eyes, made the carbine look a little "kinder and gentler."

But, that's all over now. That silly assault weapons law is no more. My little carbine can get properly dressed for the field again.

Of course, crawling out of the woodwork came the anti-Second Amendment nuts. Sarah Brady appeared on the forged documents TV network last week saying the gun ban lapse was "purely political." And, of course, she blamed President Bush: "The real onus fell on President George W. Bush. He has exerted absolutely no leadership. We have a president and leadership in the House and Senate that simply do not want to face this."

Actually, Bush showed fine leadership in an election year. He publicly said he would sign another assault weapons ban, if Congress passed one -- knowing very well that not even Democrats in Congress would dare try any such thing this year. In effect, Bush stayed above that argument, as he should.

Not Kerry, though. Kerry used it as yet another topic to whine about. Speaking to a Washington Audience, Kerry said: "Today George Bush made the job of terrorists easier and made the job of America's law enforcement officers harder and that's just plain wrong." Then he mumbled something about having a $5 billion plan to fight crime.

There are a few interesting -- and inconvenient for Kerry -- facts about guns and crime. For the past decade or so states have been passing concealed carry laws. Therefore, in over 30 states, any adult without a criminal record can take a couple gun use classes and get a permit to carry. Many thousands of people have done just that, too.

Which means, many thousands of American citizens are legally walking around armed and trained in when and how (and when not) to use whatever they are carrying. Has anyone ever heard of these legally carrying citizens shooting up someplace inappropriately? It may have happened at some point, but it is certainly not common.

Fact is, the Justice Department reported that the nation's crime rate is steadily holding at the lowest levels since 1973.

No matter, though. Kerry outlined a $5 billion, 10-year anti-crime agenda. The Kerry cronies say the plan will cut crime by restoring the assault weapons ban, fund the COPS program better, ensure that state and local law enforcement agencies get access to the national terrorist lists, and increase scrutiny of purchases at gun shows. Kerry also mentioned enforcing existing gun laws and cracking down on interstate gun trafficking. Then, Kerry said that he can crack down on gang violence by increasing gang members' access to jobs, job training, school and drug rehabilitation.

Did we say that the nation's crime rate is down to a 30 year low? Yeah, we did.

What big government loving socialists like John Kerry cannot understand is that, as the number of armed citizens increases, crime decreases. That's because it's damned inconvenient for crooks to rob an armed citizen. And when a lot of people are carrying concealed, the bad guys get confused about who they can target -- lest they themselves become a target.

An armed society is a safe society. For some reason, Democrats do not like that.  

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: assault; awb; bang; banglist; banned; blamed; brady; carry; inconvenient; legally; lowest; second; unconstitutionally; weapons
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The problem started a decade ago when some ignorant twits in Congress labeled rifles they thought looked mean as "assault rifles" and unconstitutionally banned them.

That silly assault weapons law is no more, but crawling out of the woodwork came the anti-Second Amendment nuts.

Kerry said Bush made the job of terrorists easier.

In over 30 states any adult without a criminal record can get a concealed carry permit. Crime has dropped.

An armed society is a safe society. Democrats do not like that.

1 posted on 09/18/2004 11:33:05 AM PDT by forest
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To: forest
In over 30 states any adult without a criminal record can get a concealed carry permit. Crime has dropped.

An armed society is a safe society. Democrats do not like that.

Because crime fighting is just another excuse to expand government power.

2 posted on 09/18/2004 11:36:40 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative (What did Dan Rather know, and when did he know it?)
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To: forest
You should read the screaming and shrill rhetoric on places like moveon.org. You would have thought that World War III had started.

Guns. Big deal.

Morons, with or without guns. THAT is a big deal.

Too bad there couldn't be a ban on assault morons, of all calibers.

3 posted on 09/18/2004 11:46:18 AM PDT by starfish923
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To: forest
The Democrats were in full horror mode Monday when the assault weapons ban expired. Here in upstate New York, Albany mayor, Jerry Jennings (D), decried the expiration by saying how a local detective was shot dead by an assault weapon. My question is, after 9 1/2 years of the AWB being in place, how did the assailant get a banned weapon?
The liberal mayor inadvertently pointed out the fundamental flaw in all gun control measures, they are ignored by criminals.
4 posted on 09/18/2004 11:57:24 AM PDT by Read2Know
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To: starfish923

Funny. I'm afraid it wouldn't leave many people in my area. On second thought, I could live with that.


5 posted on 09/18/2004 12:01:26 PM PDT by CobbIslandView
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To: forest
" . . . saying the gun ban lapse was "purely political." "

As if the original ban wasn't???? What a jerk. Live with it lady. Your day has come and gone. For a very long time, I hope.

6 posted on 09/18/2004 12:07:13 PM PDT by Eastbound ( "Neither a Scrooge nor a Patsy be.")
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To: forest
"Mine was especially easy to carry and handle because I changed the stock, and a few other little things, to improve its portability and quick shooting ability in the field."

If Doug Fiedor put a folding stock on his carbine before the ban then it was still legal after the ban.

7 posted on 09/18/2004 12:12:22 PM PDT by bruoz
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To: forest
I can guess that (if elected) Mr. kerry's plan re firearms will be to act in public like a cross between Audie Murphy (a real war hero) and Charlton Heston, while covertly appointing judges with with goals of undermining of 2nd amendment and confiscation of re firearms.

re comment..."An armed society is a safe society. Democrats do not like that." I'm not so sure that include all dems. I think that a lot of dems also own firearms, and if kerry exposes his actual hyper-left anti-2nd amendment ideology, he runs the risk of a significant crossover vote.
8 posted on 09/18/2004 12:13:54 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: forest; Joe Brower

Thanks for the post, forest.

FWIW, Doug's M1 was grandfathered in, and the fed AWB never did affect his folding stock or hi-cap magazines as I read it. Nonetheless, good article.


9 posted on 09/18/2004 12:20:45 PM PDT by glock rocks ("Bush is playing chess, and Kerry is playing checkers." - Dick Morris)
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To: forest
All I did was change the stock back to the original and stopped using the large capacity magazines in public.

The folding stock was a problem, but the magainze was not. Neither was if the stock was in place and the magazine produced before the ban. (Since they were produced no later than the Vietnam war, more likely during the Korean war, that should not have been a problem).

10 posted on 09/18/2004 12:37:19 PM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: bruoz

You are absolutely correct. This guy never understood the law in the first place. It only applied to new guns and new clips. Older guns and pre-ban clips were never outlawed. His gun was also not on the specific list of guns requiring an FFL transfer. This is a good example of why it was a silly law. Only if he had taken a new gun, made the modifications, and then put a high-capacity clip on it would he have been in trouble.

Another example of reseach challenged punditry....


11 posted on 09/18/2004 12:37:44 PM PDT by WilliamWallace1999
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To: Read2Know
...Albany mayor, Jerry Jennings (D), decried the expiration by saying how a local detective was shot dead by an assault weapon.

Doesn't Albany have a law against shooting people?

12 posted on 09/18/2004 12:38:35 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (...and Freedom tastes of Reality)
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To: forest

The battle is not over, it is only beginning.

I don't recommend complacency in the face of what is coming.


13 posted on 09/18/2004 12:46:47 PM PDT by Imal (I wasn't born yesterday, but the day before, thus giving me 48 hours to think this whole thing over.)
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To: DuncanWaring
Doesn't Albany have a law against shooting people?

Yeah. It was on a sign with a buncha other stuff that stated it was wrong to lie and steal and some other things.

But then one day the ACLU came along and made 'em take it down.

14 posted on 09/18/2004 12:53:28 PM PDT by uglybiker (Urrrrrrgh! Kerry! Baaaaaaaad!!!!!!..................Frank N. Stein)
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To: CobbIslandView
Funny. I'm afraid it wouldn't leave many people in my area. On second thought, I could live with that.

Ditto.

15 posted on 09/18/2004 2:44:56 PM PDT by starfish923
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To: glock rocks
"Doug's M1 was grandfathered in".

Not in California.

16 posted on 09/18/2004 2:45:29 PM PDT by forest
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To: forest
Not in California.

Exactly. Sorry state of affairs there. I'm old enough to remember when the finest commentary came from Orange County, and it had a serious impact on California politics. Seems that, sadly, has gone south, as it were.

17 posted on 09/18/2004 2:55:03 PM PDT by glock rocks ("Bush is playing chess, and Kerry is playing checkers." - Dick Morris)
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To: forest
Or New Jersey.

Hi Forest, glad to see your still around these parts.

Del

18 posted on 09/18/2004 3:00:46 PM PDT by Delmarksman (Pro 2A Anglican American (Ford and Chevy kill more people than guns do, lets ban them))
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To: forest
Kerry used it as yet another topic to whine about. Speaking to a Washington Audience, Kerry said: "Today George Bush made the job of terrorists easier...

Bah. John Kerry is so 9/10.


19 posted on 09/18/2004 5:58:15 PM PDT by Prime Choice (The Religion of Peace ISN'T.)
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To: WilliamWallace1999

And neither did the majority of Americans who's interest in such weapons was limited.

I was still fielding question on what was legal, or not, right up until the ban expired.

Now I am still fielding these questions, the only real difference is that now everyone wants to know what parts they can legally add to their "post ban" guns.

Since 922.(r) did NOT expire the confusion continues!

Here is the bill we need to pass in the next session in order to end the confusion and harassment.



Second Amendment Protection Act of 2003 (Introduced in House)


HR 153 IH

108th CONGRESS

1st Session

H. R. 153

To restore the second amendment rights of all Americans.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

January 7, 2003

Mr. PAUL introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary

A BILL

To restore the second amendment rights of all Americans.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the `Second Amendment Protection Act of 2003'.

SEC. 2. REPEAL OF FEDERAL HARASSMENT PERIOD.

Public Law 103-159 is hereby replaced, and any provisions of law amended or repealed by such Act are restored or revived as if such Act had not been enacted.

SEC. 3. REPEAL OF UNCONSTITUTIONAL GUN BAN.

Title XI of Public Law 103-322 is hereby repealed, and any provisions of law amended or repealed by such title are restored or revived as if such title had not been enacted.

SEC. 4. REPEAL OF UNCONSTITUTIONAL DISTINCTION.

(a) Section 201 of title 11 of Public Law 90-618 is amended by striking `which the Secretary finds is generally recognized as particularly suitable for sporting purposes,' and `which the owner intends to use solely for sporting purposes.'

(b) Public Law 90-351, as amended, is amended as follows:

(1) In section 902, strike `which the Secretary finds is generally recognized as particularly suitable for sporting purposes,' `which the owner intends to use solely for sporting, recreational, or cultural purposes,' `a projectile which the Secretary finds is primarily intended to be used for sporting purposes,' `devoted to the collection, competitive use, or other sporting use of firearms in the community,' `determined by the Secretary of the Treasury to be particularly suitable for sporting purposes and,' `(A) determined by the Secretary to be generally recognized as particularly suitable for sporting purposes, or determined by the Department of Defense to be a type of firearm normally classified as a war souvenir, and (B),' `and is generally recognized as particularly suitable for or readily adaptable to sporting purposes,' and `provided that such handguns are generally recognized as particularly suitable for or readily adaptable to sporting purposes,'.

(2) Strike `lawful sporting purposes' and insert in lieu thereof `lawful purposes'.

SEC. 5. EFFECTIVE DATE.

The provisions of this Act shall take effect immediately upon enactment.


20 posted on 09/18/2004 6:14:15 PM PDT by Richard-SIA ("The natural progress of things is for government to gain ground and for liberty to yield" JEFFERSON)
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