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China predicts war in 5 years
World Net Daily ^ | Jan 2001 | Jon Dougherty

Posted on 09/17/2004 8:53:08 AM PDT by ruready4eternity

Senior Chinese leaders in the Central Military Command -- second in power only to President Jiang Zemin -- have predicted war with Taiwan within the next five years.

Beijing's next five-year economic plan began this year, meaning Zhang's threat falls within the plan's 2001-2006 time frame.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


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To: Bluegrass Conservative
Would you rather do it now when we have the technological superiority or later when the Chinese have caught up?
Don't forget, after Taiwan comes Japan.
61 posted on 09/17/2004 9:51:35 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: ruready4eternity

Right on schedule. China seems to require some kind of intramural armed conflict every 50 years or so.


62 posted on 09/17/2004 9:58:39 AM PDT by nosofar
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To: miliantnutcase

And these items could not be built somewhere else?


63 posted on 09/17/2004 9:59:33 AM PDT by Bluegrass Conservative
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To: EternalVigilance

What's on second. Hu's on first.


64 posted on 09/17/2004 10:00:08 AM PDT by Bluegrass Conservative
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To: Bluegrass Conservative
Please tell me we're not going to try to protect Taiwan's sovereignty.

Well, we already know the U.S. can't be trusted and doesn't keep it's word, so I suppose there's a good chance we'll just let Taiwan swing.

65 posted on 09/17/2004 10:03:07 AM PDT by nosofar
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To: FesterUSMC

Okay, I know that it is the usual tyrant line that some other nation "once belonged to us" (Hitler with Austria, Hussein with Kuwait). But it's pretty clear that Taiwan was, and probably still is, part of mainland China. China just decided to get their own house in order before trying to reestablish order in Taiwan (boy, communism works so well that it takes sixty years!).

There is a reason that the United States and the United Nations does not recognize Taiwan as an independent sovereign nation. Just as retaining what is our's was one of several reasons we fought the Civil War, China does not believe Taiwan has the right to secede and perhaps is justified in trying to reclaim it.


66 posted on 09/17/2004 10:04:00 AM PDT by Bluegrass Conservative
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To: Avenger

What military advantage does it give them to have Taiwan?

What I mean is I would prefer to not fight a two-front war (one being China, the other being terrorism . . .which we all know is basically based in the Middle East). History has proven two front wars do not work well . . . Napoleon, Hitler, etc.


67 posted on 09/17/2004 10:06:27 AM PDT by Bluegrass Conservative
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To: Travis McGee

nice.


68 posted on 09/17/2004 10:06:54 AM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (Robert the "RINO")
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To: hedgetrimmer

If that's true, we need to cut social spending and prepare for war.


69 posted on 09/17/2004 10:07:23 AM PDT by mugs99 (Restore the Constitution)
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To: lelio
By who? We're a little busy right now and we've also not shown anything to discourage China from invading Taiwan.

Well, I thought it's primarily the army and marines that are busy. I don't see a lot of work for the Navy in land-locked Iraq and Afghanistan. I would think we could afford a couple of aircraft carriers, but maybe they're busy elsewhere, too. *shrug*

70 posted on 09/17/2004 10:09:52 AM PDT by nosofar
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To: The Duke
In a few years we should just declar ourselves to be a province.

Well, to the Chinese (CCP) way of thinking, since Chinese nationals have set foot on U.S. soil, that means the U.S. is now part of China and always will be.

71 posted on 09/17/2004 10:18:48 AM PDT by nosofar
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To: ruready4eternity

if we are going to go to war with china, we should really do it before the entire semiconductor industry is offshored there - it would kind of be nice to have some chips available to put into our bombs and missiles and such, don't you think?

china has a long term strategy to defeat the United States - economically at first which in turns undermines our military, through espionage, through use of proxy nuclear states like north korea, etc.

and we sit around on our asses and allow these insane free trade agreements to suck our economic might away to china. we deserve what's coming to us years down the road, Taiwan is just s small piece of low hanging fruit for China.


72 posted on 09/17/2004 10:23:56 AM PDT by oceanview
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To: Bluegrass Conservative

well if you knew how much fire power that we keep dumping into the region you would understand that their is a problem...


73 posted on 09/17/2004 10:24:09 AM PDT by FesterUSMC
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To: ruready4eternity
We need a plan that not only defends Taiwan, but extracts a penalty from China if it tries anything--like taking Hong Kong and the province to its north, and maybe some ports as well. After they are defeated in the war for Taiwan, we hang onto them as a reminder that they may not cause death to our military personnel without a price. If they make the war difficult, harsher ramifications would be in order.

It's not like we haven't told them that an attack on Taiwan will bring a respose from us.

74 posted on 09/17/2004 10:27:29 AM PDT by Defiant (The Democrat ticket has Johnarea, an STD (SocialisticallyTransmitted Disease).)
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To: FesterUSMC

Ignorance here . . . why are we dumping any firepower into the region?


75 posted on 09/17/2004 10:30:27 AM PDT by Bluegrass Conservative
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To: Cooltouch

"They will defend their island NATION to the death."

Are they allowed to have their own weapons or is the populace generally unarmed? When it's laudible to be willing to defend one's nation, if they don't have anything to do it with, it doesn't really count for much. They may not have time to have weapons distributed to them by the government.


76 posted on 09/17/2004 10:31:08 AM PDT by nosofar
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To: ruready4eternity

I have never figured out why the Chinese are always foaming at the mouth over Taiwan. (And I'm not unfamiliar with the history behind the whole situation.)


77 posted on 09/17/2004 10:36:30 AM PDT by wideminded
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To: nosofar

Sadly, after Chaing seized power in Taiwan, one of the first things he did -- as dictators are wont to do -- was outlaw firearms. Now that the Kuo Min Tang is finally out of power, the freedom to own firearms has still not been restored. No real surprise there. However, Taiwan's military takes these matters very seriously, and I would not be surprised if there are emergency plans in place to arm the populace.


78 posted on 09/17/2004 10:41:56 AM PDT by Cooltouch
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To: nosofar
I don't see a lot of work for the Navy in land-locked Iraq

Iraq has a port. Also it is the Navy that provides support with aircraft and missile launching. If they're all in the China Sea, they are not supporting the Iraq mission.
79 posted on 09/17/2004 10:46:43 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: Bluegrass Conservative
Ignorance here . . . why are we dumping any firepower into the region?

Because if China attacks Taiwan, that would have HUGE economic problems for us... so we have been dumping alot of firepower over there for years offsetting China, why do you think China keeps building up? Then we add more, its like the Cold War all over again

80 posted on 09/17/2004 10:49:12 AM PDT by FesterUSMC
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