A Conservative Woman Speaks

Me

[2-in-Texas]

You know, I've been a member of FR since before the 2000 election. I have not always agreed with the posts of the male-dominated membership in FR, but I have appreciated the positions of each and every one of you. But it has become very clear to me during this 2004 campaign why many women cannot embrace the conservative and/or Republican agenda. I have been since Nixon, and will remain one despite the predominance of the sexist condescension of a large group of Republican men. So let's get down to the bare bones of the situation, okay? And I really couldn't care less about the flames and insults that the lower domination of the FR membership will inflict on me for this little tirade of mine. There are so, so many women just like me who fervently believe in the ideals of the Republican and George W. Bush. We may recognize the lack of a female perspective in some issues, but we grasp the overall concept and recognize it as our own core values. We have basically learned to pick our battles. We share the views of conservative men in regards to our need for a superior military defense, a belief in the need for personal accountability and responsibility, a eff-you attitude towards our former French and Canadian and other similar so-called "allies," a need to defy the wimpy attitudes of those utopian countries who are in total denial about the condition of the world today and the necessarily severe actions necessary to ensure the survival of a righteous and moral world. We're out here, guys, and we feel just as strongly about these values as you do even if we don't feel the need to express them with your chest-beating and neverending pissing contests.

So in the midst of your extemely intelligent, compassionat idealogy, the less evolved of you start spouting your sexist and primate idealogy that becomes such a total turn-off to so many women who believe in your core values. Why do most women vote liberal? Because so many men are so busy being macho that they refus to embrace a woman's perspective on issues. You won't deter me or a very, very large group of women just like me. We are a very large and growing block of voters, and to grow that base, you need to recognize our different perspectives on the same core values. Stop pushing us away, and embrace our contributions. We are not so different, only the way God intends us to be. There's a reasons for differences, and they are for the greater good.

So hit me with your best shot. I will probably never post here again. And know this: I believe in George W. Bush, and will always be a conservative woman, although I'll probably be searching for another venue to share my beliefs.

[Rca2000]

First, I want to say that I am new here. I have been reading this board for a little while, but I did have it confused with New republic, which is NOT a conservative site! Lucianne's site set me straight!. Now, I read this site regularly, and will post here as well.

As for women being selfless, WHEN was that, MAYBE 40 YEARS AGO? In my own life, I, as a male, have been the recipient of a LOT of women's "selfless" acts, like acting like they liked me, just to get another guy's attention, playing a joke on me, in "acting" like they like me, out of a dare, or pretending to be a friend,just to get help in college, and then, ignoring me, and threatening me, never to speak, look at, or even come near them, after they passed the class. I have always treated women with respect, My mother taught me that. I have not had that respect returned to me, very often.And, is it selfless, to think that you should"take credit for what other people do, to get ahead", as one woman recently recommended? my mother IS selfless, so are a few people her age. but, aside from a woman I knew 17 years ago,when I was 19, most of the women I have known personally since, have just USED me, for their own benefit. I am NOT the only guy who feels this way. It seems the women today only want the nasty, selfish, brutish guys, who do NOT treat women respectfully, they look at men like me, as "losers", nerds", freaks", and so on, because I am more interested in political matters than sports, because I want a real relationship, not a weekend, because I am pro-life, pro-family,pro-God, and so on.

Sorry to go on this way, but i just figured that after all of the women's perspective of mens faults,(and believe me, I KNOW men who fit the descriptions that have been stated, so I do feel for the women who have been hurt by them, BUT, WOMEN can and DO hurt MEN, ALSO) it was time for a man to speak up, and be counted. I am sure I will no longer be welcome here, neither.

[ConservativeGadfly]

Oh, my friend, you have most definitely been hurt by women -- very misguided little girls who are all about themselves first, last and always. Lots of them have been raised that way and it is on the increase these days, to be sure. But I guarantee you that they are in for a lifetime of heartache and unfulfillment when they continue to be baffled by their unhappiness.

Not all of us are like that, I promise you.

Some of us recognize that it is the "nerds" and "geeks" who end up being the Bill Gates! ;)

Seriously, though, I have more disagreements with women than men. They absolutely baffle me at times and I'm one of them!

Praying that you find peace -- and if you haven't found a wonderful gal yet, prayers for that too!

[SirLurkedalot]

LOL

[SirLurkedalot]

LOL, If you pick up a woman in an SF bar, make sure to do a "wang check" AKA The "Hogan".

[Godfollow]

Im a Macho, Macho 'Mam'... Really, I don't know what your talking about...

[sauropod]

So you're a feminist...

Isn't that cute?

[Charles H. (The_r0nin)]

Because so many men are so busy being macho that they refus to embrace a woman's perspective on issues.

Please define a "woman's perspective on issues." Seems to me there is one perspective on issues that is the right one, and lots of other perspectives which we call "wrong" ones...

Your post does bring up an interesting point, though. Men and women are different in the aggregate. Enter a discussion with a man about a problem, and most times the conversation is a nuts-and-bolts, problem-solving conversation. Do the same with a woman, and far more time is spent on the emotional and personal effect the problem has had on the woman, as opposed to just talking about what will fix the problem.

Now before the resident feminists get all fired up, note that I was careful to say "in the aggregate." I know many women who "think like men," in that they tend to be less interested in the emotional side of things. They tend to be the women who I am much closer friends with, in fact. But overall, I think my generalization is accurate.

However, on a public website like this, I don't think you have any right to expect others to discuss issues in your chosen fashion. The conservative movement of the Republican Party has always been a problem-solving movement (as opposed to liberalism, which focuses far more on feelings rather than outcomes). So you should not be surprised if the discussion here is more "male." Perhaps you should consider being more tolerant? (I couldn't resist...)

[sauropod]

"First off let's agree that men are pigs, OK? I'm a pig"

Speak for yourself. I'm a HOG!

[sauropod]

"Men and women are different in the aggregate. Enter a discussion with a man about a problem, and most times the conversation is a nuts-and-bolts, problem-solving conversation. Do the same with a woman, and far more time is spent on the emotional and personal effect the problem has had on the woman, as opposed to just talking about what will fix the problem."

This is so true!

[Lil'freeper]

This is so true!

'specially when they're management.

Oh! Did I just say that?

[LiberalBassTurds]

LOL bro', no doubt! You know what it's like out here...the checklist of things to look for. If "she's" over six feet it's a mandatory drill! :^)

Good to see you again. It's been a while.

[Phil V.]

They went to the moon! They transplant hearts! They built the World Trade Towers! They have farting contests!They're creatures of aggression and innovation. They aren't going to change...if they do we're doomed.

I'm planning a farting contest!

Deb, do you suppose that you can do me the favor of fwding Kitty Kelly's contact info? I'd like her to be the guest of honor. Her duties wil include igniting farts with kitchen matches (no bic lighters allowed) and measuring the length of blue flames erupting from Democrat Assholes. ((Republican men's asses are equipped with igniter and will not need her ASSistance.))

I'm open to suggestions on other guest of honor activities that might be bestowed upon Ms Kelly.

Ardent Love always,

PharmerPhill

[SirLurkedalot]

Same here buddy. I have to take a break from news/politics etc. once in a while for sanity control. I'm actually glad I don't have a PC at home; my lady would kill me. I'm a pain in the ass as it is. :)

[CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC]

as opposed to liberalism, which focuses far more on feelings rather than outcomes

Motto of Liberals: "Thinking is overrated. I am able to FEEL!! Therefore I don't need to be able to think."

I seem to remember there was some some Hollywoodhead on a TV show a few years back who had just gotten his debate points totally demolished by a conservative guest, and his comeback was more or less, "I don't care about your facts. I know what I *FEEL* and I feel I'm right". Wish I had the exact quote.

[CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC]

Sorry - I meant to post that to 2-in-Texas.