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FIRST LADY INTERRUPTED BY DEAD SOLDIER'S MOM
WINS News ^ | 9/16/04

Posted on 09/16/2004 11:44:50 AM PDT by areafiftyone

A Hopewell woman whose son was killed while serving in Iraq was arrested Thursday after she interrupted a campaign speech by first lady Laura Bush.

Sue Niederer had refused to leave the rally and demanded to know why her son was killed in Iraq. She was eventually escorted from the rally site, a local firehouse, by police.

Niederer wore a T-shirt that bore the words "President Bush You Killed My Son" and a picture of her son, Army 1st Lt. Seth Dvorin.

Dvorin was killed in February while trying to disarm a bomb in Iraq. The 24-year-old had just returned to Iraq after spending two weeks with his family.

The first lady continued speaking after the arrest, touting her husband's record on the economy, health care and the war on terror.

More than 700 people attended the rally in the suburban community of 90,000 near Trenton. Hamilton is home to a large number of state employees. It has traditionally been a swing municipality in local, state and national elections.

Republicans are encouraged that recent polls have indicated an erosion of John Kerry's earlier lead in New Jersey.

A Star-Ledger/Eagleton-Rutgers Poll last week had Kerry at 43 percent to Bush's 39 percent, erasing a double-digit lead once held by the Democratic challenger.

Mrs. Bush made several references to the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks during her speech Thursday. She said that many in New Jersey, including some in neighborhoods near the firehouse, lost family members that day.

"Too many people here had a loved one that went to work in New York that day," Bush said. "It's for our country, it's for our children, our grandchildren that we do the hard work of confronting terror."

Saying that more families have two parents working, she said President Bush will support initiatives allowing for flexible work time and to give increased flexibility in health care coverage.

"We know that families face new challenges and that government should respond to these changing times," said Mrs. Bush.


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To: arichtaxpayer

I believe this woman deserves a plane ticket to Iraq where she could see where her son was killed and rant all she wants to over there? After all, it their lives, her son helped protect as well as our interests as Americans!


41 posted on 09/16/2004 12:11:13 PM PDT by princess leah
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To: areafiftyone

Why must these people do this, they know that their kids volunteer for this duty, I feel pity for her, but I will bet that she is a democrat and went there to try to hurt the Bushes.

Someone needs to check this out


42 posted on 09/16/2004 12:12:59 PM PDT by Amanda75 (Amanda75)
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To: areafiftyone

God rest his soul. It is unfortunate that his mom is dishonoring his memory. He was a proud and brave American who was willing to risk his life to help protect his nation. There is no higher calling. He knew he could die, but he did it anyway. America survives because we have those with such bravery.


43 posted on 09/16/2004 12:13:31 PM PDT by doug from upland (Dan Rather is a journalist like Michael Moore is a pole vaulter.)
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To: wideawake
Did people harangue Mary Todd Lincoln, demanding to know why their son died at Antietam?

Good point, but I don't think the Lincolns had a son in the war. Their sons died from fevers.

44 posted on 09/16/2004 12:13:39 PM PDT by Drawsing (It is not honorable to seek one's own honor.....Proverbs.)
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To: areafiftyone

I know she loved her son and grieves for him, but making his death into a political statement shows, to me, complete disrespect to his memory. Wearing a T-shirt with his picture on it and a political slogan? If my mama ever did that, the ground would be roiling from me turning in my grave.


45 posted on 09/16/2004 12:15:05 PM PDT by KellyAdmirer
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To: areafiftyone

I don't like the idea that some of our men will die on the battlefield. Mothers have been facing this dilema since the revolutionary war.

President Bush has done what he felt he must in reaction to 09/11 and many other incidents. I happen to agree with the President on this one. That's not going to be of any consolation to this woman. That's a shame, but it is reality.

Someone must go, or as a nation we surrender to those who make war unavoidable.

Perhaps the saddest thing of all, is that mothers like this don't understand that their sons or daughters died for something very important. They are convinced that their child died for nothing at all. Who would be more offended at that than the very child they mourn?

Yes this mother's son died, that countless other mothers' children could live in peace and freedom. Until tyrants, terrorists and warmongers cease to exist, mothers' children will be lost.


46 posted on 09/16/2004 12:15:07 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservatives)
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To: Drawsing

Early in 1865 (after his father had written Ulysses S. Grant a letter) Robert Lincoln joined General Grant's staff as a captain. Captain Lincoln's main duty as an army officer was that of escorting visitors to various locations. Additionally, he was present at Appomattox when Robert E. Lee surrendered to Grant.


47 posted on 09/16/2004 12:16:54 PM PDT by areafiftyone (Democrats = the hamster is dead but the wheel is still spinning)
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To: Wsno1fan
". . . for goodness sakes, President Bush hasn't drafted anyone."

I hope this story isn't accurate. GIs claim threat by Army

If it is, these Army recruitment officers have made unilateral a decision to bring us one step closer to a draft. I'm sure this hasn't been cleared with the Commander in Chief.
48 posted on 09/16/2004 12:18:35 PM PDT by edweena
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To: ClancyJ
Sorry. If America is going to suceed in the War on Terror then we need to be as resolved as we were in the Civil War or WWII, perhaps more so.

This kind of disgusting public display is unacceptable. I don't care if it makes her feel better, or helps her deal with her grief or whatever other kind of psychobabble we can associate with it.

The War on Terror is not about assuaging her feelings - it's about saving our country from savages trying to destroy it.

Every time she marches in a parade with America's enemies, everytime she grandstands to get on TV in order to undermine our security she does a little to undo the valiant deeds her son accomplished.

She is scum, plain and simple.

49 posted on 09/16/2004 12:19:27 PM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: wideawake

People are more selfish these days; especially women, who were once selfless long ago.


50 posted on 09/16/2004 12:22:32 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er ({about the news media} "We'll tell you any sh** you want hear" : Howard Beale --> NETWORK)
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To: Drawsing
Good point, but I don't think the Lincolns had a son in the war.

The Lincolns did, but the word "their" in my post, being plural, had "people" as its antecedent not the singular Mary Todd Lincoln.

51 posted on 09/16/2004 12:22:48 PM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: mhking
...was arrested ... after she interrupted a campaign speech...

I'd understand her being escorted from the premises; however, the arrest simply means that "free speech" is dead in this Nation. Perhaps her son did die needlessly. Remember, Constitutional "free speech" is explicity for political redress.

52 posted on 09/16/2004 12:22:59 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: areafiftyone
I would like to know the true political stance of this woman.

Was she anti-Bush {a rat} or was she angry because she perceived that the ones who set the bomb were thankless SOBs that don't deserve the blood of American soldiers..thankless SOBs that were tortured by Sadam, but yet who wear the black baclavas at night..thankless SOBs whose "rescue" should have come with a bright flash rather than the rumble of American tanks?

That's not bait. Just pointing out that there are two possible motivations for someone who is angry for losing a son in this war.

53 posted on 09/16/2004 12:23:14 PM PDT by Indie (Ignorance of the truth is no excuse for stupidity.)
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To: areafiftyone

It wasn't Hopewell, it was Howell,and her son Seth was a proud volunteer.


54 posted on 09/16/2004 12:25:33 PM PDT by genefromjersey (So much to flame;so little time !)
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To: areafiftyone

President Bush didn't draft her son to serve.

President Bush did not hold a gun to his head and fire.

Terrorists murdered her son.

Terorrists murdered many sons 3 years prior in this country.

That is why we fight.

To defeat the murderers that would kill more of our own than have been lost in Iraq, Afganistan, a Penn field, the towers and Pentagon.

Her son chose to defend HER. He gave his life to protect HERS. He loved her enough to do this for her and this country.

She should honor her son's sacrifice.

I do realize she is in a great amount of pain, but I have no sympathy for allowing the wrong people to be targets of that grief. I do have sympathy for the pain of losing her son.


55 posted on 09/16/2004 12:26:45 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: ClancyJ
Just give her the compassion she needs as she moves through the stages of grief. Afterall, she has given more than most.

Yep. What she is doing is wrong but it doesn't mean it's right to rip her for it. Hopefully in time she will come to an understanding, as painful as it will be. In the mean time, reasonable people understand her grief and the fact that her expressing it, even in an inappropriate manner, does no real harm.

56 posted on 09/16/2004 12:26:53 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never Forget)
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To: areafiftyone
How do we know she wasn't a FAKE!!! The RATS are notorious for FAKING docs and protesters!!
57 posted on 09/16/2004 12:27:29 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: wideawake

She may be scum, a plant, anti-war or whatever. Or, she may just be a mother who lost a son in war.

You will never win support for a war by attacking one perceived as a grieving mother. What do you suggest - haul her out, lambast her publicly, have a mug shot made of her?

Or, do you just allow her to be escorted out and say nothing? I choose this.

She has given her blood for this country same as her son. She deserves respect and the benefit of the doubt. Sorry you prefer to attack her. How very noble.

Another point - are you saying that she should be muzzled after paying the total price for freedom? Her son died for that freedom and if she chooses to lambast the world because she had to pay that price at least give her a little bit of leeway as she makes this walk in her life. She will come to her senses or not - but her fellow Americans have treated her with compassion no matter where she stands politically.

In other words - be thankful you don't walk in her shoes and as soldiers are allowed for their wounds to heal, we must allow the mothers/fathers to heal their wounds without further attack.


58 posted on 09/16/2004 12:27:46 PM PDT by ClancyJ (Vote for President Bush - For our grandchildren. Democrats are not to be trusted with our country)
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To: areafiftyone
The first lady continued speaking after the arrest, touting her husband's record on the economy, health care and the war on terror.

Somehow, this sentence seems to attempt to make the First Lady appear uncaring about the woman's grief. I think it's the word "touting".

59 posted on 09/16/2004 12:28:12 PM PDT by scan58
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To: Indie
Just pointing out that there are two possible motivations for someone who is angry for losing a son in this war.

Her only apparent motivation is to squeeze as much of her fifteen minutes of fame as possible from being the leftist mother of a fallen American hero.

She is beneath contempt.

60 posted on 09/16/2004 12:29:25 PM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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