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Ex-Guardsman Is Said to Be a CBS Source
NY Times ^ | 9/16/04

Posted on 09/15/2004 9:09:10 PM PDT by ambrose

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To: Howlin

LOL!

The AWB Has Expired - Gun Owners Have Won Again For All Americans!

41 posted on 09/15/2004 9:28:27 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Semi Civil Servant

Wasn't it reported Burkett had a nervous breakdown and blamed Bush? Doesn't it make sense the DNC would seek out someone of questionable mental stability to be their fallguy?


42 posted on 09/15/2004 9:28:46 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Howlin

I don't see any raised hands yet!


43 posted on 09/15/2004 9:28:47 PM PDT by avant_garde
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To: Howlin

I don't see any raised hands yet!


44 posted on 09/15/2004 9:28:47 PM PDT by avant_garde
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To: ambrose

Burkett is the FALL guy, it's someone MUCH closer to the Kerry camp than this guy. There's NO WAY Rather would have said it was an "unimpeachable source" for this kook. Nor would he have worked so hard to try to dodge this.

No, he may be the "sacrificial goat" they offer up, but he's NOT the one who did this. It's likely 'Ol Terry boy, or Carville, or Rather's own daughter. Someone that he'd LITERALLY put his entire career, and the entire dnCBS news organization in jeopardy of collapsing for.

No, Bill Burkett is NOT the man... And you can bet, if it turns out they name him, he'll either take the money and run and "admit it" or he'll deny it and note they're trying to make him the fall guy. But he is NOT the source of those documents.


45 posted on 09/15/2004 9:28:58 PM PDT by woodb01 (Take out the 'dnC'BS "news" trash... Make dnCBS EXTINCT)
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To: CA Conservative

You are correct on that. But also it does not make any sense that the records are from Bush's files. They are supposed to be from Killian's private file. I am sure Killian would create a CYA memo and stick it in Bush's file.

No one has explained how Killian's supposed files were obtained.


46 posted on 09/15/2004 9:29:03 PM PDT by FMS5
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To: ambrose

I have the feeling that Rove knows who the players are. Why else did the WH call out the DNC and Kerry campaign today?

I can imagine that over the next few days there will be selective leaking from the WH to bust this wide open.


47 posted on 09/15/2004 9:29:04 PM PDT by telebob
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To: Howlin

Yeah, the same guy who forged the memos does. That's why the forgeries were so good.


48 posted on 09/15/2004 9:29:15 PM PDT by snooker (French Fried Flip Flopper still Flouncing, be careful out there.)
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To: Southack

Do you think it's a coincidence that they all held this story until Rather had on the Church Lady?


49 posted on 09/15/2004 9:30:51 PM PDT by Howlin (What's the Font Spacing, Kenneth?)
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To: okiegop
Burkett is the FALL guy, it's someone MUCH closer to the Kerry camp than this guy. There's NO WAY Rather would have said it was an "unimpeachable source" for this kook. Nor would he have worked so hard to try to dodge this.

No, he may be the "sacrificial goat" they offer up, but he's NOT the one who did this. It's likely 'Ol Terry boy, or Carville, or Rather's own daughter.

The REAL perpetrator is someone that Rather and dnCBS would LITERALLY put their careers and the entire dnCBS news organization in jeopardy of collapsing for.

No, Bill Burkett is NOT the man... And you can bet, if it turns out they name him, he'll either take the money and run and "admit it" or he'll deny it and note they're trying to make him the fall guy. But he is NOT the source of those documents.


50 posted on 09/15/2004 9:31:00 PM PDT by woodb01 (Take out the 'dnC'BS "news" trash... Make dnCBS EXTINCT)
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To: MOgirl

Excellent point MOGirl.. It is upto the DNC to disprove our question. You know, prove a negative, right? (except I believe the person was coming from a fact)


51 posted on 09/15/2004 9:31:22 PM PDT by BoBToMatoE
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To: ambrose

Oh yeah, no agenda here....

http://www.geocities.com/stoutdem/eptimes504.html

Bill Burkett, a Democrat activist near Abilene, said Sanchez, Sharp and other candidates need to be reminded that they can't run the party as if they own it.



"The Democratic Party is still a grass-roots party. If we have to exercise some degree of muscle in order to take the party back, then let that fight begin," he said.


52 posted on 09/15/2004 9:31:51 PM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: sinkspur

Of course you're right; let's see if Burkett is going to take the fall for all of them.

And I'd like to know if Burkett OR Barnes has talked to Ms. Knox.


53 posted on 09/15/2004 9:32:17 PM PDT by Howlin (What's the Font Spacing, Kenneth?)
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To: woodb01
"But he is NOT the source of those documents."

It depends on whether you mean "source" to be the forger or the faxer.

Burkett could *easily* have been the patsy chosen to fax the documents.

...But Burkett doesn't explain Dan Rather calling CBS' source "unimpeachable" and likewise doesn't explain why CBS is willing to take the fall rather than reveal who's behind the forgeries.

The AWB Has Expired - Gun Owners Have Won Again For All Americans!

54 posted on 09/15/2004 9:32:28 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Howlin

Both Burkett & his lawyer, Van Os are Democrat activists.

Van Os is running as Dem for the Texas Supreme Court.

Look at this:

September 15, 2004, 09:30 AM

Texas Democrat operatives linked to possible memo source
By Phil Magness

The New York Times is reporting that Bill Burkett, a disgruntled former national guardsman and longtime peddler of anti-Bush conspiracy theories involving the president's Texas Air National Guard Service, is connected in an undisclosed manner and extent to the CBS forged memos scandal. Says the Times:

CBS has refused to say how it obtained the documents. But one person at CBS, who spoke on condition of anonymity, confirmed a report in Newsweek that Bill Burkett, a retired National Guard officer who has charged that senior aides to then-Governor Bush had ordered Guard officials to remove damaging information from Mr. Bush's military personnel files, had been a source of the report. This person did not know the exact role he played.

Burkett has employed attorney David Van Os speak on his behalf as the scandal unfolds. What the Times does not report, however, is that Messrs. Burkett and Van Os are both Democrat operatives with a long history of activism in the Democratic Party of Texas. Van Os is even a past and current Democrat Nominee for the Texas Supreme Court.

Van Os' website includes an enthusiastic endorsement from none other than Bill Burkett. Burkett, it also seems, is himself a Democrat activist whose past includes heavy participation in the 2002 Democratic Party of Texas State Convention. He previously employed Van Os' services in a failed lawsuit against several officers in the Texas National Guard, which some believe may be the motive behind his agenda against George W. Bush over the latter's guard record. While it should be noted that neither Van Os nor Burkett have been affirmatively linked to the Kerry Campaign (or at least not yet, that is), both appear to be partisan activists. If Burkett's as of yet unnamed role in the memo scandal is revealed, his close affiliations to the Democratic Party of Texas and a high ranking leader and candidate from its ranks would establish a direct link between the Rathergate scandal and Kerry's party.

Van Os has provided no details to date of Burkett's role, however he did repeat Dan Rather's previous Non Sequitur to the Times: “the real story is and should be, where was George Bush?” Neither Van Os, nor Burkett, nor Rather have explained why we should believe that an allegation against Bush that is directly contingent upon the forged memos should be accepted ras the “real story” even if the memos are false.

http://www.chronicallybiased.com/index.php?itemid=1544


55 posted on 09/15/2004 9:33:14 PM PDT by JulieRNR21 (I trust NOBODY BUT BUSH! Take W-04....Across America!)
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To: Peace will be here soon
Well, I speculate that it's Barnes only because he's so blatantly lying about his influence in getting Bush into the Guard.

If he's fingered, his ties to Kerry are obvious.

If his gambit had succeeded, he'd be the Godfather of the Democrat Party.

Now that it's blown up in his face, and with a lame duck Republican president in office, he'll likely endure the wrath of the US Attorney in Dallas.

56 posted on 09/15/2004 9:33:43 PM PDT by sinkspur ("Please send me all of your gold-trimmed lace right away"--Cardinal Fanfani)
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To: Howlin

I think Rather is bailing as fast as he can. The wagons are on fire and he knows it. That's why he rolled in a new source and went on the air with her with little or no checking her out. Otherwise he would have know she was a pool secretary.

The other news agencies are not going to go down with Dan so they are retracting stories and digging hard now. Dan knows he is running out of time.

tick tick tick, probably got less than 60 minutes left :}


57 posted on 09/15/2004 9:34:22 PM PDT by snooker (French Fried Flip Flopper still Flouncing, be careful out there.)
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To: ambrose

I wonder which Burkett is this guy in Baird........saw two listings for a Bill Burkett.

If I figure out who is who I am going to get an interview for the paper (I won't and know that going in.....my main goal is just to help fill up his answering machine).


58 posted on 09/15/2004 9:34:35 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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To: Howlin

No Bush's Alabama records are sitting in the White House ready to put the AWOL thing to bed next week.


59 posted on 09/15/2004 9:34:48 PM PDT by nonkultur
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To: snooker
This is setting him up as the fall guy to protect cBS and others. IMHO this will track back to Barnes and Dan's daughter, then to the Kerry campaign.

Yup. Those forged docs didn't go directly to SeeBS. They took the slow boat through the DNC, Kerry Campaign, and possibly other leftist nests (I'm sure Teddy even had a good squint at them).

60 posted on 09/15/2004 9:34:56 PM PDT by randog (What the....?!)
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