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What the hell is going on here? Or why is CBS clinging so ferociosly to this lie?
My fertile mind | 08/15/04 | me

Posted on 09/15/2004 8:10:12 PM PDT by Pharmer

I think that it is safe to say that this whole Rathergate/memogate stuff at this point is just out of control. If your ten year old got caught in a fib and continued to behave in this way even the most "progressive" of parents would would have this child have a close encounter with a razor strap. So why is CBS carrying on this way? I have heard many intresting theories posted here, on talk radio, and other places.

So let's review some of them. First we all know that the Swift Boat dudes was a shot in Kerry's solar plexis. It wasn't fatal but it caught him off guard and knocked the wind out of him. Kerry knows that has exposed his glass jaw and the swifties moving in with more even more devastaing blows. We all can aggree the TANG story was resurected for the umpteenth time to clearly to blunt any future efforts.

And if you look at the "suspicious timing" of media events we have:

a) The 60 minutes story Wednesday night producing documents from one of Bush's TANG officers that seem to imply that he had a different opinion of the young leutenant that he told his wife and and son and left a letter of commendation in Bush's personnel file.

b) Terry McAufull and Tom Harkin racing to the microphone Thursday morning to damand Bush answer the charges as to why he failed to show up for a physical as to set up

c) The Kitty Kelly cocaine story and voila!

d) Bush is a coke head just who ducked a physical with a drug test (in 1972! Before Nancy said NO) as we thought back in 2000 but now we have a paper trail!

But as we now know as in the the best laid plans of mice and men, the initial key components the documents were baltant and amatuerish forgeries. This blew the whole plan out of the water faster than a submerged mine blew up the number 3 boat. Just like Kerry did then the MSM ran from this story so fast it wasn't funny. They knew they were sunk, busted and had! I wouldn't be surprised that when all is said and done that whoever the source of these document was may have shopped them around to various media outlets before CBS took the bait. And most of them might have come to the same conclusions it took us "amatuer" Freepers and Buckhead 59 minutes to figure out: these were Cracker Jack Box phonies.

So why after being caught in such a blatant lie is CBS continuing to stand by this story when the scheme has been exposed? Some say arogance. Some say that CBS is covering for its source. I have a sneaking suspicion that more is afoot.

Remember when Richard Ben-Veniste during the 9/11 hearings tried to embarass John Ashcroft by asking him why he stopped flying commercial a month prior to 9/11? or how about when Bush had that press conference last spring and the press repeatedly tried to embarass Bush with stupid questions and get him to "apologize" for Iraq?

Well guess whats comming up? The debates. And who is moderating one of those debates? Bob Schieffer. And who does Bob Schieffer work for...? CBS!!! Don't be surprised if Scheifer askes "Mr president, last month the 60 minutes raise questions based on documents attributed to your former commanding officer in the Texas Air National Guard. To date you have not addressed those questions. Don't you think that tonight you answer those questions for the American people?" No matter what other questions asked in those debates that one will have justified the stonewalling we see now and that I think is the end-game. They want to embarass him with a phony question live and right in front of Kerry. Don't get me wrong, I think he'll handle it fine and with dignity. But knowing the contempt that these guys have for Bush they think this might just do him in.


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To: Pharmer

Oh, yes. I like that chronology. I thought all the others (the book, the Rather, the ad, the DEMands) had to be orchestrated--but never put the debates into the picture. You're right--it's too many coincidences. And what does Sherlock say about coincidences?


21 posted on 09/15/2004 8:25:17 PM PDT by Mach9 (.)
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To: Pharmer

i can just see w's response..

"you mean questions raised by those forged documents?"

:D

well, the rumor is that CBS has a second hit story floating around in the backroom to be aired in october as its "october suprise" which pins bush as an outright coke head (that is why he did not take the physical).

THAT is probably why they are clinging to it. not to mention, they do not want it to back fire. it looks like everything is okay so far, i have not seen any huge bumps in the polls for bush lately (he is holding steady, though).


22 posted on 09/15/2004 8:25:50 PM PDT by BoBToMatoE
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To: JimSEA

F-E-L-O-N-Y. CBS was part of a conspiricy to forge Federal documents to try and influence a presidential election. Now they're on a roller coaster at Six Flags. Can't get off.


23 posted on 09/15/2004 8:26:00 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men are ready to do violence on our behalf)
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To: Paul Atreides
[They] WANT this story to be true.

Thats a major part of it. They have gone beyond reason. It's personal. Thats why the FCC and Congress need to get involved with this.
24 posted on 09/15/2004 8:26:07 PM PDT by Arkinsaw
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To: Paul Atreides
Williams and Alan Colmes WANT this story to be true.

I watched them both make fools of themselves tonight. Williams was trying really hard to spin this story being about Bush not showing up for his physical. Brit Hume would have none of it.

You could almost say Brit B!tch Slapped him. Poor Juan was so disappointed he couldn't keep spinning.

25 posted on 09/15/2004 8:26:37 PM PDT by rllngrk33 (The fourth estate in this country has become a fifth column.)
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To: Pharmer

It is more understandable now that Burkett has been ID'd as the supplier of the memos. No way does Dan Rather want him to be interviewed by anyone...that's why he is adamant about "protecting his source." But he will be national soon -- what a blast!


26 posted on 09/15/2004 8:26:49 PM PDT by GRANGER (Must-issue states have safer streets.)
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To: Pharmer

The President's people need to "just say no" to CBS moderators in the debates. Let Brit Hume do it.


27 posted on 09/15/2004 8:27:33 PM PDT by Libertina (Thank God we have President Bush in the White House.)
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To: hershey

I can't wait for their revelation either; and I can't imagine that O'Neil has blown his whole wad.


28 posted on 09/15/2004 8:28:17 PM PDT by Mach9 (.)
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To: rllngrk33

And, Carl Bernstein, on Hannity and Colmes, tonight. I'm sitting there wondering why this guy is supposed to be so brilliant. They had might as well been interviewing Terry McAuliffe. Alan Colmes just sits there giving it the old DNC spin. Everything out of his mouth is basically telling the audience to shut up and believe what he, and the left, tells them to believe.


29 posted on 09/15/2004 8:29:12 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: Jim_Curtis

Absobloominutely true.


30 posted on 09/15/2004 8:30:10 PM PDT by Mach9 (.)
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To: All

If this Bob Schieffer guy is a moderator, I think Bush should just back out of any debate he's involved in and say that CBS has shown an incredible lack of impartiality, and until the questions about their airing of false docs are cleared up.... Bush will not be debating in any forum where CBS operatives are acting as moderators.


31 posted on 09/15/2004 8:30:34 PM PDT by nerdgirl
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To: VadeRetro
In the not too distant past the press could lie with impunity. There was no one to keep them honest. They had an oligarchy. Those days are over, and the dinosaurs in the business like Dan Rather had best conform to the new reality of blogs, forums, and the new media or they will perish.



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32 posted on 09/15/2004 8:31:21 PM PDT by Arnold Zephel
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To: Arkinsaw

To his credit, Dim Pat Caddell was asking Alan Colmes why he was drinking the Kool-Aid. Then, he launched into NBC, for having Bitty Kelley on the Today show THREE times, this week.


33 posted on 09/15/2004 8:31:28 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: Pharmer
Naw - I think CBS is taking the electro-shock to cauterize the hemmoraging the Swift Boat Vets have caused Kerry.

Assuming there are intelligent adults at CBS, they have fallen on a grenade to protect Kerry.

34 posted on 09/15/2004 8:31:49 PM PDT by Fenris6
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To: Paul Atreides

Re Bernstein: How hard is it to break a story when you've got Deep Throat providing facts, names, places, paper, pen, typewriters, and ribbons (or Selectric balls)?


35 posted on 09/15/2004 8:32:18 PM PDT by Mach9 (.)
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To: Pharmer
As a climax to all this Rather will perform a citizen's arrest on himself on See BS Evening News.
36 posted on 09/15/2004 8:33:00 PM PDT by Malesherbes
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To: Pharmer
Rather has to see this through to the destruction of Geo. Bush. If he admits the docs are forged, he has to say where they came from (the Kerry campaign). If he admits he put out forged docs given to him by Begala and Carvile the game is over, their boy goes down in flames, his rep. is shot and his career ends in ignominy. Hence, he will NEVER admit he made a mistake. It is ironic that he made his rep. bringing a president down who was stonewalling (Nixon) and now he IS Nixon. LOL. Payback is just such a...
37 posted on 09/15/2004 8:33:21 PM PDT by wastoute
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To: Pharmer
The vast left-wing conspiracy.
38 posted on 09/15/2004 8:33:43 PM PDT by joonbug
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To: Pharmer

I think you are right in that CBS did not expect the whole thing to blow up in their face. People at CBS and their confederates (Harkin, McCauliffe etc.???) had not banked on the "Freepers" getting all over them.

Now that they have been busted Dan must pretend the memos are authentic or he would have to reveal his sources and the conspiracy. I also think good ole fashion hubris is getting the best of Dandy Dan. He thinks he can just tough it out. I think he is wrong.


39 posted on 09/15/2004 8:33:45 PM PDT by daviscupper
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To: Pharmer
....or how about when Bush had that press conference last spring and the press repeatedly tried to embarass Bush with stupid questions and get him to "apologize" for Iraq?

Do you know who it was who asked Bush to aplogize to the country?

Answer: It was Dan Rather's "hair apparent" to the anchor's chair, John Roberts of CBS.

I agree with your suspicion that "more is afoot". It seems clear from the preponderance of evidence that CBS is a full-fledged covert partner of the DNC. Getting less "covert" all the time.

40 posted on 09/15/2004 8:33:48 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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