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Dan Rather: "powerful and extremely well-financed forces"
New York Observer ^

Posted on 09/15/2004 2:13:33 PM PDT by akostenko

Mr. Rather said that the focus on questions over the veracity of the memos was a smoke screen perpetrated by right-wing allies of the Bush administration.

"I think the public, even decent people who may be well-disposed toward President Bush, understand that powerful and extremely well-financed forces are concentrating on questions about the documents because they can’t deny the fundamental truth of the story," he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at nyobserver.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cbsnews; killian; monstersunderthebed; paranoia; rather; rightwingconspiracy; seebsnews; vastrightwing; vrwc
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To: akostenko
"According to Dan Rather we are the "powerful and extremely well-financed forces". LOL!"

FR is better financed than Viacom/CBS? LOL Tell that to Jim Robinson! Rather is sounding like a nutcase.
81 posted on 09/15/2004 2:42:40 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: akostenko; counterpunch; Rebelbase; Izzy Dunne; atomicpossum
perpetrated by right-wing allies of the Bush administration.

Now FReepers are PERPS! Zounds!

82 posted on 09/15/2004 2:43:44 PM PDT by beyond the sea (Free Martha Mitchell......... and Jail Teraaaaaayza)
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To: akostenko
According to Dan Rather we are the "powerful and extremely well-financed forces". LOL!

That goes along with another of his assessments.

That was why, he said, half of the experts agreed and the other half didn’t. That supposed stalemate left nothing but the truth at the center of the documents.

Since when is one(maybe) versus a gazillion, half and half?

83 posted on 09/15/2004 2:44:08 PM PDT by AndrewC (I also think that Carthage should be destroyed. - Cato)
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To: fetts
So...let me get this straight. CBS investigated the story for 5 years and they just now got the documents? The same documents that were also given to CNN, USAToday and the WH, presumably by the source?

Uh-huh.

84 posted on 09/15/2004 2:44:10 PM PDT by jess35
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To: akostenko

Sorry, I just got in from my polo match, what did I miss?


85 posted on 09/15/2004 2:44:14 PM PDT by GatorGirl (Donate to the SwiftVets!)
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To: Rebelbase
"I think the public, even decent people who may be well-disposed toward President Bush, understand that powerful and extremely well-financed forces are concentrating on questions about the documents because they can’t deny the fundamental truth of the story," he said. "If you can’t deny the information, then attack and seek to destroy the credibility of the messenger, the bearer of the information. And in this case, it’s change the subject from the truth of the information to the truth of the documents. "This is your basic fogging machine, which is set up to cloud the issue, to obscure the truth," he said.

Dem Playbook!

BTW, can I show this to my boss? As a powerful force I demand my boss help me fulfill the second of this prophecy.

86 posted on 09/15/2004 2:44:28 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: lawgirl

...Key to the unraveling of CBS’s hyped documents, as bloggers pointed out, were the superscript ‘th’ and the Times New Roman font used in the alleged Killian memo, both of which seem to belong to a rather modern Microsoft Word default letter-writing program rather than a 1972-era typewriter.Make that yet another victory for the nerds, but not nerds in pajamas,, as former CBS executive Jonathan Klein said in an attempt to impugn bloggers....


87 posted on 09/15/2004 2:45:01 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Riley; vox_freedom

The assets of CBS and its parent company are in the billions of dollars. It would be like the United States complaining of the economic power of the Marshall Islands.


88 posted on 09/15/2004 2:45:16 PM PDT by Enterprise (The left hates the Constitution. Islamic Fascism hates America. Natural allies.)
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To: mlbford2

FREEP NAKED!


89 posted on 09/15/2004 2:45:25 PM PDT by jaz.357 (The more you bet, The less you win, When you loose.)
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To: KeyLargo

Ah so it was Johnathon Klein that called us nerds in pajamas. What a typical liberal- get called out and start calling people names.


90 posted on 09/15/2004 2:46:51 PM PDT by lawgirl (It's not about Vietnam- it's about John Kerry's lies about Vietnam.)
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To: fetts
"Whether one believes it or not, this person believed that he and his family had been harassed and even threatened," he said. "We were not able to confirm that, but his fear was that what had already been threats, intimidation, if he gave up the documents, could get worse—maybe a lot worse."

This sounds like an exact description of Burkett, the mentally-unbalanced ex-guardsman with paranoid ideas about Bush.
91 posted on 09/15/2004 2:47:01 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: akostenko

Excellent .... he has lost touch with reality..... focus on him ..... focus focus focus.... a wounded animal is the most dangerous when it is wounded....


92 posted on 09/15/2004 2:47:10 PM PDT by Gibtx (focus.........)
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To: akostenko
Mr. Rather said that he and his longtime CBS producer, Mary Mapes, had investigated the story for nearly five years,

You measuring in dog years, Dan?

93 posted on 09/15/2004 2:48:24 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy ("Despise not the jester. Often he is the only one speaking the truth")
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To: mlbford2

Dan Rather = arrogant ninny


94 posted on 09/15/2004 2:50:09 PM PDT by pointsal
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To: akostenko
partisan political operatives

I think he means partisan political accurate FReelance operatives.

powerful and extremely well-financed forces are concentrating on questions about the documents because they can’t deny the fundamental truth of the story

A truth-seeking citizens' e-army is concentrating on questions about the documents because they are obvious forgeries.

If you can’t deny the information, then attack and seek to destroy the credibility of the messenger, the bearer of the information. And in this case, it’s change the subject from the truth of the information to the truth of the documents.

I'm just not seeing how you can get truth out of a forgery. Mr. Rather can't deny the forgery, and is attacking and seeking to destroy the credibility of the informed citizens' e-army who is bearing proof of forgery.

Mr. Rather said that he and his longtime CBS producer, Mary Mapes, had investigated the story for nearly five years...

This story was disposed of during Pres. Bush's 2000 campaign. Rather is desperate to invest his trust in a forgery that reveals what he hopes is true so he can derail Pres. Bush's re-election.

the documents could have been created in the 70’s.

A similar type font was available in the '70's--if you worked on linotype equipment in a publishing house. Such professionals would have been unlikely to have created so many inconsistent versions of superscripts. And since when did local National Guard offices have highly specialized linotype equipment?

'"The story has fallen into a wormhole of seemingly unanswerable questions: Could an IBM Composer, Selectra or Executive have created the superscripts and proportional spacing? Would the Texas Air National Guard have had such expensive models? Was Killian the type to … type?

These questions were abundantly answered by FReepers and other netizens during the night of the 60 Min. II broadcast.

95 posted on 09/15/2004 2:50:42 PM PDT by ntnychik
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To: jaz.357

Egads! What if Klein had said: "Bloggers have no checks and balances. They are sitting naked in their living room."


96 posted on 09/15/2004 2:50:51 PM PDT by Enterprise (The left hates the Constitution. Islamic Fascism hates America. Natural allies.)
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To: akostenko
Well-financed? I guess it depends on one's perspective. I'd offer to swap Rather paychecks for a few months, but pretty soon he may not be getting one...

(Normally I FReep nekkid, but I do wear fuzzy slippers on occasion...)

97 posted on 09/15/2004 2:51:46 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: akostenko
If the documents are not important to the "truth" of the story. Why is CBS still standing behind them as not being forgeries. This makes no sense. The fundamental truth is that the story cannot stand on its own without the documents so CBS continues to stonewall.
98 posted on 09/15/2004 2:52:20 PM PDT by eggman (CBS Lied -- the Kerry Campaign Died)
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To: Oztrich Boy
They investigated for five years the horrific scandal that Bush may have gotten preferential treatment and put in soft-duty at the end of his tour? Probably like ten thousand other national guardsmen with family connections or other job priorities? But Rather didn't spend five minutes examining how Clinton totally avoided military service, and he brushed off Juanita Broaddrick's rape allegations with a shrug. What a partisan a**hole.
99 posted on 09/15/2004 2:52:40 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: akostenko
Dan Rather's statement reminds me of the VO of many a cheap Japanese monster flick: "Deep beneath the surface of the earth powerful and extremely radioactive forces were at work."
100 posted on 09/15/2004 2:52:44 PM PDT by PJ-Comix (What's the Forgery, Dan!!!???)
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