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Whining Dems on AWB Sunset(McDermott, Blumenauer, Feinswine, Swimmer, Jim Moron, Lenin, Jackson-Lee)
Thomas ^ | 9-13-04 | Congresscritters

Posted on 09/14/2004 9:57:18 AM PDT by Dan from Michigan

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Lenin, you SUCK! Don't blame me. I voted for Rocky.

Well, you do not need a 20-round-a-minute assault weapon to take down a deer.

I can shoot well over 20 rounds a minute with my .45 ACP including reload time, dummy. And the 2nd Amendment isn't about deer hunting. Rothman is an ignoramous.

Jim Moron once again proves that criminals support gun grabs. Jim, hit any women lately? How about 9 year old black kids that are out to "steal your car"?

including terrorists, could have access to 19 of the highest powered and most lethal firearms capable of being produced.
BS Lenin.

These guns have no sporting purpose and no place on our streets
I don't give a rat's ass about sporting purposes.

Common sense should tell us that there is no reason for civilians to have easy access to guns with these features.
Common sense tells us that we should not vote for Carl Lenin.

Chief Bratton and other law enforcement officials

Many chiefs aren't real cops. They are politicians who kiss the butts of the mayors.

According to statistics reported by the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence
In other words, it is typical bullshit from Comrade Carl the gun grabber.

I am aware of no facts to support that statement.
It's called the 1994 election, son. In 2000 all state reps who supported CPL over your jackasslike braying and crying won re-election. In 2002, Granholm ran away from the gun issue and now actually signed some pro-2a bills. Elections are the facts, so sit down half-glasses.

This act took its political toll on not only President Clinton but also the Democratic Party
Maybe you people can learn from that.

This issue is about nothing less than the very security of our Nation.
And YOU PEOPLE are hurting it.

obtaining automatic rifles and machine guns in the United States.
BULL SHIT.

Next, the United States had a proven and effective law on the books that made it difficult to purchase these deadly weapons , and this law needed to be renewed

Hey Stoopid, the 1934 and 1986 laws aren't up for renewal.

The assault weapons ban will be history, one more victim of the powerful, selfish NRA and its brutal lobbying tactics.
WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

easily concealed military weapons
WTF?

The law specifically, by name, exempts 670 hunting guns entirely.
Then you, Hanoi John, and Swimmer vote to ban the .30-30

flash suppressors for votes in this country. It makes me sick to my stomach.
You're freedom grabs and your sellout of my country to the Communist Chinese Government make me sick.

A recent study by the Consumer Federation of America
Another Gun ban lobby.

Who needs a 50-round clip?
Where does is say Bill of Needs, traitor?

Next year, I will put a better law on virtually any bill I can find to do so, and we will come back and back and back, and we will have armor because no doubt tragedy will ensue.
Heads up!

Semiautomatic weapons are killing machines
That's probably 2/3 of all firearms going back to at least 1911.

within 24 hours the previous gun registration records
That's the law, boy.

America has the worst record of gun violence of any developed country.
BS.

assault weapons to hunt game in this country.
This has nothing to do with hunting.

allowing semiautomatic weapons back on our streets
We already have semiauto weapons you RINO. And it's not the bill of needs, but bill of rights. I don't need you idiots to tell me what I need.

And you need my vote and your types aren't getting it.

1 posted on 09/14/2004 9:57:21 AM PDT by Dan from Michigan
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To: Dan from Michigan
Uzis and similar assault weapons are about to be legal again...

Too bad you can't sue Congressman for telling easily refuted lies.

2 posted on 09/14/2004 10:01:03 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: Dan from Michigan
Nice compilation.........let me add this.


PROTECTION OF LAWFUL COMMERCE IN ARMS ACT -- (Senate - March 02, 2004)


Mr. REID. Mr. President, I yield 6 minutes to the Senator from Massachusetts, Mr. Kerry.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Massachusetts.

Mr. KERRY. Mr. President, the issue before the Senate today can really be summed up in one word: Responsibility. I first started hunting with my cousins when I was a kid, and I still enjoy hunting today. I believe strongly in the second amendment. I believe in the right to bear arms as it has been interpreted in our country.

But I also believe that with our rights come fundamental, commonsense responsibilities. The right to bear arms is a right that should be protected for law-abiding Americans who want to protect themselves and their families.

There is, however, no right to place military-style assault weapons into the hands of terrorists and/or criminals who wish to cause American families harm. There is no right to have access to the weapons of war in the streets of America. For those who want to wield those weapons, we have a place for them. It is the U.S. military. And we welcome them.

If we do not act today to continue the ban on these deadly weapons, then our families in America, our police officers in America, are more threatened than they ought to be. For 10 years, the assault weapons ban has stopped fugitives, rapists, and murderers from purchasing weapons such as AK-47s. And

[Page: S1964] GPO's PDF
for 10 years, not one honest, responsible American has had their guns taken away because of this law.
It is interesting that a few months ago I was actually hunting in Iowa with the sheriff and with some of his deputies. As we walked through a field with the dogs, hunting pheasant, he pointed out a house in back of me, a house they had raided only a few weeks earlier, where meth and crack were being sold. On the morning when they went in to arrest this alleged criminal, there was an assault weapon on the floor lying beside that individual.

That sheriff and others across this country do not believe we should be selling these weapons or allowing them to be more easily available to criminals in our country. That is why gun owners across America support renewing the assault weapons ban. They support also closing the gun show loophole so that gun shows can continue uninterrupted without being magnets for criminals and/or terrorists who try to get around the law.

If there is a gun show loophole, a terrorist could simply go to one State, go into the gun show, buy a gun without the kind of ground check normal in the process, leave that gun show, travel to another State, and engage in either criminal or terrorist activity or both.

Let's be honest about what we are facing today. The opposition to this commonsense gun safety law is being driven by the powerful NRA special interest leadership and by lobbyists in Washington. I don't believe this is the voice of responsible gun owners across America.

Gun owners in America want to defend their families, and I believe the NRA leadership is defending the indefensible. There is a gap between America's ``Field & Stream'' gun owners and the NRA's ``Soldier of Fortune'' leaders.

When he ran for President in 2000, President Bush promised the American people he would work to renew the assault weapons ban. But now, under pressure, he is walking away from that commitment, as he has from so many other promises--from education, to the environment, to the economy. This President says he will sign this giveaway to the gun industry, but he is refusing to sign the assault weapons ban he told America he would support.

I believe gun owners have a responsibility, and so does the President of the United States--a responsibility to keep his word, a responsibility to do what he says he will do, a responsibility to protect Americans from danger, and to provide for the common defense.

There is a reason every major law enforcement and police group in America supports this ban. They know no police officer should ever have to face the prospect of being outgunned by the military-style assault weapons. No American citizen should have to live in fear of being gunned down by snipers, gang members, or even terrorists who wield assault weapons.

The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator's time has expired.

Mr. REID. Mr. President, is there any time left on our side?

The PRESIDING OFFICER. Four minutes.

Mr. REID. Mr. President, I yield the remaining time to the Senator from Massachusetts.

Mr. KERRY. I thank the distinguished leader.

President Bush needs to tell America's police officers why he is not standing on their side.

Today George Bush will celebrate the anniversary of the creation of the Department of Homeland Security, and I am glad the President joined us in that effort. But it will take more than a big, new bureaucracy to make America safer. Today airport screeners are being cut, air marshals are not getting trained, fire departments only have enough radios for about 50 percent of the firefighters, and almost two-thirds of our firehouses are shortchanged. The COPS funds have been eliminated in order to fund the President's tax cuts for the wealthiest few. By taking cops off our streets with one hand, and allowing military-style assault weapons back on them with the other, this President is jeopardizing the safety of our communities. It is wrong to do so, to pay for more tax breaks for billionaires and pay back more favors to a special interest lobbying group.

Let me just say one word quickly about the overall issue of liability itself. I am not for, and I do not think any reasonable person is for, a gun manufacturer being held liable for a murder that takes place in the life of America, unfortunately too often. But what we do know is about 1.2 percent or so of gun dealers and wholesalers are responsible for about 57 percent of the weapons that wind up in the hands of criminals. There are many ``straw'' transactions that take place in situations where manufacturers know who the problem dealers are.

To not have a wanton-and-reckless-conduct standard for liability is to avoid responsibility; it is to allow people to look the other way, as they have in the past, when we demand responsible actions in the communities of America.

I believe American gun owners are right to act responsibly and to live by common sense, and I am proud to stand with those gun owners today. I hope President Bush, the NRA leadership, and other lobby groups will reverse course and join the millions of Americans who know gun rights and gun responsibilities are mainstream American values, and that is what we should vote for in the Senate.

I thank the leader for the extra time.
3 posted on 09/14/2004 10:01:34 AM PDT by OXENinFLA (W-"We stand for the Second Amendment which gives every American the individual right to bear arms.")
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To: Dan from Michigan

I hate those people.


4 posted on 09/14/2004 10:02:41 AM PDT by correctthought (Hippies, want to change the world, but all they ever do is smoke pot and smell bad)
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To: Dan from Michigan

The Constitution Wins Every Time.
5 posted on 09/14/2004 10:03:50 AM PDT by FesterUSMC
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To: Dan from Michigan
Mr. Speaker, in the one minute it will take to read these remarks, an Uzi can fire off 1,700 rounds.

In a just world, the congressman would have run from the Capitol followed closely by the howls of laughter.
6 posted on 09/14/2004 10:04:41 AM PDT by kenth (Even John Kerry's recreation depends on which way the wind is blowing...)
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To: Dan from Michigan

Gee, I didn't see the usual hysterics from Barbara Boxer. Oh, I forgot. It's election time. If she wins, she will open up against gun ownership for another five years until it's election time again.


7 posted on 09/14/2004 10:06:01 AM PDT by Enterprise (The left hates the Constitution. Islamic Fascism hates America. Natural allies.)
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To: Dan from Michigan
This thread has just added to the FreeRepublic "bang list" (firearms interest list) by adding the keyword "banglist".

Any time a firearms-related thread is created on FreeRepublic, please be sure to add the "banglist" keyword to it so that interested FReepers don't miss it.

Let Freedom Ring,

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8 posted on 09/14/2004 10:07:02 AM PDT by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Too bad you can't sue Congressman for telling easily refuted lies.

Let's try to rein in journalists first.

I have always considered myself handy with firearms, but getting a non-class 3 Uzi to spew out 1,700 rounds in a minute is beyond my fine motor skills. I have to wonder what drugs the Seattle Congressman Bagdad-Jim McDimwhit is on to make that statement.

9 posted on 09/14/2004 10:07:40 AM PDT by Robert357
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To: Dan from Michigan

whining a$$h0le$ who've crying over a bad law that has finally expired!!!


10 posted on 09/14/2004 10:08:09 AM PDT by prophetic (Dems investigate for pre 9/11intel - but now we've LOTS of Intel and they claim politics)
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Watch out, folks! Dan from Michigan is on a roll! $:-)

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

11 posted on 09/14/2004 10:08:11 AM PDT by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism.)
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To: kenth

In a just world these dangerous traitors to our Constitution would be dragged out of the Capital to be tarred and feathered!


12 posted on 09/14/2004 10:09:54 AM PDT by t_skoz
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To: Dan from Michigan

I'm getting old. To me, AWB is the Average White Band........


13 posted on 09/14/2004 10:09:55 AM PDT by Red Badger (If you shoot from the hip enough times, eventually you'll shoot yourself in the a$$......)
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To: Dan from Michigan

Time to call the Waaaaambulance!


14 posted on 09/14/2004 10:10:01 AM PDT by aught-6
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To: Dan from Michigan

This post represents the closest I have ever come to throwing something at the screen of my computer.

Short of voting the bastards out of office (something most of these twits are unfortunately safe from, given their constituencies), is there NO way to prevent them from making such bald-faced, lying claims on the floor of the Senate/House?


15 posted on 09/14/2004 10:11:14 AM PDT by Little Pig
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Someone over on AR15 suggested that everyone who removes their ole pre ban muzzle
brake and replaces it with a now legal flash hider ..ought to mail it to Feinswine...

figure a couple of million of them ought to get her attention...making her aware just how many people she is trying to steal 2nd amendment rights from...


16 posted on 09/14/2004 10:11:36 AM PDT by joesnuffy ( "Two Heads Are Better Than One"...."Unless They're On The Same Person" -Andy Sipowicz)
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Reports continue to show that 70 percent of Americans believe that the ban should be maintained.

Another blatant "Ratherism"

17 posted on 09/14/2004 10:13:26 AM PDT by joesnuffy ( "Two Heads Are Better Than One"...."Unless They're On The Same Person" -Andy Sipowicz)
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To: kenth

"Madam Speaker, the second amendment to the United States Constitution allows individuals to own firearms. The question is, where do we draw the line? Should people be allowed to have shoulder-fired rocket launchers that down airplanes? Of course not. Well, you do not need a 20-round-a-minute assault weapon to take down a deer. "

No, but you will need a 20 round clip to take down the Nazis that will come to your door to take your gun away if the 2nd Amendment is repealed.


18 posted on 09/14/2004 10:13:34 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Control the information given to society and you control society.)
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ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN -- (Senate - September 13, 2004)

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Mr. NELSON of Florida. Mr. President, before I get into this hurricane discussion, my eye caught an Associated Press newswire out early this morning. A Miami-Dade County police officer was shot several times after a driver she stopped fired nearly two dozen bullets at her with an AK-47 assault rifle.

The assault rifle ban has been in effect for over a decade. According to the Department of Justice, it expired this past weekend and now AK-47s are allowed to be purchased under U.S. law.

My family has been in Florida 175 years. I grew up in the country. I grew up on a ranch. I have hunted all my life. I have a son who is an avid hunter. We enjoy the outdoors, but we do not hunt with AK-47s. AK-47s and assault rifles are for killing, not for hunting.

Why is it that law enforcement, at every level of government--Federal, State and local--is against terminating this law that prohibited the sale of assault rifles? Why is law enforcement opposed to the termination of this law? For exactly this reason: A Miami-Dade County police officer was shot two dozen times by an AK-47. I rest my case, and I think it is a sad day that we could not reenact an extension of the law on the abolition of assault weapons, primarily for the sake of law enforcement.

I am a defender of the constitutional right to bear arms. I am a defender of the right to have guns of all kinds except when getting to the common sense that it is not worth it in our society to be able to purchase AK-47s. [Say what?]

I yield the floor.


19 posted on 09/14/2004 10:15:20 AM PDT by OXENinFLA (W-"We stand for the Second Amendment which gives every American the individual right to bear arms.")
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Yep. The left, including John Kerry, is still trying to paint the 2nd Amendment as a hunting clause.


20 posted on 09/14/2004 10:17:25 AM PDT by kenth (Even John Kerry's recreation depends on which way the wind is blowing...)
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