CBS Offers New Experts to Support Guard Memos

NY Times ^ | 9/13/04

[LuvMyRedneck]

Wow....These folks need to put on their jammies because EVEN I can see it....or maybe it's just my magic slippers ;-)

[Avenger]

Comparing the CBS memos with a replication produced on Microsoft Word, he noticed a slight variation in the boldness of the letters, as there is on many typewritten documents. "It doesn't look like you can do this very easily," he said. "If you use something like Photoshop you could come close to faking it, but why not just go out and buy a Selectric for $75?"

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Ok then. So why doesn't someone just go out and buy a Selectric for $75 and collect the $30k+ and prove Dan Blather right? Seems like that should be a quick and easy profit.

Is this all CBS has? I feel like they are insulting my intelligence. Give me a break. Perhaps the boldness of the characters changed slightly in the faxing/copying moron! Where does CBS find these people? DU perhaps?

[potlatch]

LOL, poor Nixon, headless and now Dan is wearing his body!!

[El Gato]

Bill Glennon, a technology consultant and I.B.M. typewriter specialist ... He said he was initially leery of talking. "Because quite honestly there's some people out there, they're scary," he said. "You don't agree with them, you offer opinions that don't jibe with theirs and you get a target on your back."

Yeh it's called Arkanicide.

Notice that they don't say what kind of technology he's a consultant for.

Comparing the CBS memos with a replication produced on Microsoft Word, he noticed a slight variation in the boldness of the letters, as there is on many typewritten documents. "It doesn't look like you can do this very easily,"

Sure you can, just copy the thing about 20 times, and FAX it. We know it was faxed, and that alone can account for a lot of the variation in boldness. Only if the same letters consistently have the same boldness variation relative to other letters would one suspect a typewriter made them. I just checked one of the "memos", the one dates Aug 1, '72. I compared the lowercase "r" which appears in a couple of spots to be lighter than the surrounding letters. However looking at other instances of the "r", it is as dark or darker than the other letters, IOW it doesn't look the same everywhere on the page, even when it's in the same part of the word. So five minutes with one memo puts that theory to rest.

[eclectic]

He said he was initially leery of talking. "Because quite honestly there's some people out there, they're scary," he said. "You don't agree with them, you offer opinions that don't jibe with theirs and you get a target on your back."

Mr. Glennon was in charge of service for 1,000 contracts for I.B.M. typewriters for 15 years, starting in late 1972, around the time the memorandums were produced. He spent 15 minutes with the CBS documents, he said, and believes that they could have been created using the kind of typewriters he worked with at I.B.M.

WOW! Looks like they are going for intimidating the experts...

[FairOpinion]

"One important question raised inside and outside CBS is whether it knows where the documents, which it admits are not originals but copies"

ALL CBS EVER HAD WERE COPIES!!!!!!!!!

You can't authenticate copies, when it's so easy with today's copying technology to photocopy a signature and paste it onto anything.

[Mo1]

Andrew Heyward, the CBS News president, said in an interview on Sunday that he was not concerned about the validity of the documents or the report CBS News presented. "I'm firmly convinced that the memos are authentic and the stories are accurate," he said.

What part of Stault retired One Year before the date of the memo DO THESE PEOPLE NOT UNDERSTAND??

[Drango]

Zing.....

[captmar-vell]

. . it continues to be more interesting to me what they *CBiaS* have not said about all this.

these folks (sic heyward) are comming off oddly semi-detached from the controversy and appear to be operating in limp wristed coverup mode

[FairOpinion]

"I examined these documents and they are authentic. And there are no American soldiers in Iraq."

[Tench_Coxe]

Hmmmmm. They'll have a few more experts, named 'This Straw' and 'That Straw' respectively.

[Avenger]

Richard Katz, go out and buy yourself a $75 selectric and collect your $30k+. You won't because you can't and you know it. Liar.

[El Gato]

Dan Rather will go out as his old enemy Nixon went out, disgraced.

Somewhere Nixon is laughing his ass off and cussing up a blue streak.

[Ursus arctos horribilis]

"So has ANYONE tried recreated the memo using a Selectric yet?!?!"

No takers for reward as of this time I am aware of:

"http://defeatjohnjohn.com/pageone.htm

The $37,900 Question

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Amazingly, my email was flooded with not only people trying to claim the prize, but individuals who so strongly shared my belief that the documents were forgeries that they too, pledged significant amounts of money to the challenge. As of now, including my initial $10,000, the amount pledged stands at $37,900.




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[savedbygrace]

Asked if the signature could have been lifted from an official document by Colonel Killian and pasted onto forgeries, Mr. Matley said: "Sure. But we can't draw a conclusion from a possibility."

He (Glennon) spent 15 minutes with the CBS documents, he said, and believes that they could have been created using the kind of typewriters he worked with at I.B.M.

So C^BS has one expert who's saying that you can't a conclusion from a possibility and another expert who's saying you should draw a conclusion from a possibility.

Rather's head must be spinning like Linda Blair's.

[spokeshave]

"While Mr. Rather's initial "60 Minutes" report was considered a journalistic coup,"

I think they mean a "coup-de-grace"

[Boazo]

[Southack]

"Andrew Heyward, the CBS News president, said in an interview on Sunday that he was not concerned about the validity of the documents or the report CBS News presented. "I'm firmly convinced that the memos are authentic and the stories are accurate," he said."

...Don't you have three children named Evelyn, Patti, and Andy, Mr. Heyward?!

Total for this search: $83,000

Contributor	Occupation	Date	Amount	Recipient
HEYWARD, ANDREW BEVERLY HILLS,CA 90210	DIC ENTERTAINMENT	10/12/2000	$1,000	Clinton, Hillary Rodham
HEYWARD, ANDY BURBANK,CA 91505	DIC ENTERTAINMENT/CEO	5/6/2004	$2,000	Emanuel, Rahm
HEYWARD, ANDY BEVERLY HILLS,CA 90210	DIC ENTERTAINMENT/PRESIDENT	5/14/2001	$1,000	Berman, Howard L
HEYWARD, ANDY BURBANK,CA 91505	DIC ENTERTAINMENT	3/31/2002	$1,000	Strickland, Tom
HEYWARD, ANDY BEVERLY HILLS,CA 90210	DIC ENTERTAINMENT	9/19/2000	$20,000	DNC Services Corp
HEYWARD, ANDY BURBANK,CA 91505	DIC ENTERTAINMENT	3/31/2002	$1,000	Strickland, Tom
HEYWARD, ANDY BEVERLY HILLS,CA 90210	DIC ENTERTAINMENT	9/19/2000	$5,000	DNC/Non-Federal Individual
HEYWARD, ANDY MR BURBANK,CA 91505	DIC ENTERTAINMENT/CEO	3/27/2003	$10,000	Democratic Congressional Campaign Cmte
HEYWARD, EVELYN BEVERLY HILLS,CA 90210		6/23/2003	$2,000	Lantos, Tom
HEYWARD, EVELYN BEVERLY HILLS,CA 90210	N/A/HOMEMAKER	3/31/2004	$5,000	Democratic Congressional Campaign Cmte
HEYWARD, EVELYN BEVERLY HILLS,CA 90210	EVELYN HEYWARD/TV PRODUCER	5/14/2001	$1,000	Berman, Howard L
HEYWARD, EVELYN BURBANK,CA 91505	COMMUNITY VOLUNTEER	3/31/2002	$1,000	Strickland, Tom
HEYWARD, EVELYN BEVERLY HILLS,CA 90210	TV PRODUCER	11/18/1999	$1,000	Berman, Howard L
HEYWARD, EVELYN BEVERLY HILLS,CA 90210		6/23/2003	$2,000	Lantos, Tom
HEYWARD, EVELYN BEVERLY HILLS,CA 90210	EVELYN HEYWARD/TV PRODUCER	2/11/2004	$2,000	Berman, Howard L
HEYWARD, EVELYN BURBANK,CA 91505	COMMUNITY VOLUNTEER	3/31/2002	$1,000	Strickland, Tom
HEYWARD, EVELYN BEVERLY HILLS,CA 90210	TV PRODUCER	9/30/2000	$1,000	Clinton, Hillary Rodham
HEYWARD, EVELYN MS BEVERLY HILLS,CA 90210	HOMEMAKER	5/26/2004	$25,000	DNC Services Corp
HEYWARD, PATTI LOS ANGELES,CA 90025		10/11/2000	$1,000	Clinton, Hillary Rodham

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[BlueOx]

.....Sandy Genelius, a network spokeswoman, said, "We are confident about the chain of custody; we're confident in how we secured the documents." She would not elaborate.....

"chain of custody" ... hmmmmmmmmmm ... how many links are in the chain?????????? Why won't CBS elaborte???

Kerry campaign??? Dan's daughter?? What could be so damaging as CBS trying to stonewall??

[Smartass]

R A ^{T H} E R needs a pink slip