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Here We Go Some More
The American Spectator ^ | 09-13-2004 | Washington Prowler

Posted on 09/12/2004 9:28:38 PM PDT by nyconse

While CBS news anchor Dan Rather can say there is no internal investigation under way over the alleged forged documents used as the foundation for an investigation into President George W. Bush's National Guard service, you wouldn't have been able to tell from the 15 or so 60 Minutes and CBS News" staffers working away feverishly on Friday and Saturday to try to nail down their story.

On Friday, according to CBS News sources, Rather spent the day on the phone and dealing with CBS suits who were nervous about the fall out from the story. "All Dan could say was that this was an attack from the right-wing nuts, and that we should have expected this, given the stakes," says a CBS News producer. "He was terribly defensive and nervous. You could tell."

All day Friday, Rather, his producer on the story, Mary Mapes, and other 60 Minutes staffers were scrambling to shore up support from their sources on the story. That effort didn't go so well. By Saturday, one of their key sources, retired Maj. Gen. Bobby Hodges, had said that CBS misled him, and that he had never been shown the memos in question.

"We pulled the trick of only calling some sources at the last minute to reconfirm," says the CBS producer. "Someone called Hodges, I think, on Monday night and read him parts of the document. The late contacts are a standard practice so we don't tip off the competition or our sources."

Hodges is a critical loss for CBS News' credibility. He was the superior officer of the man CBS claims wrote the memo, Lt. Col. Jerry Killian, who died in 1984.

MEANWHILE, OVER THE WEEKEND journalists from around the country were attempting to track down the original source of the documents. "We're having a hard time tracking how we got the documents," says the CBS News producer. "There are at least two people in this building who have insisted we got copies of these memos from the Kerry campaign by way of an additional source. We do not have the originals, and our sources have indicated to us that we will not be getting the originals. How that is possible I don't know."

One individual several news outlets were looking at was Bill Burkett, a former Texas National Guard officer. Burkett in the past has cooperated with both press and Democratic Party opposition researchers in slinging mud at President Bush. Burkett gained some national attention earlier in the campaign when he claimed he was at National Guard headquarters in Austin 1997, when he overheard Guard officials and a representative of then Governor Bush discuss how to sanitize Bush's files. That story was fully discredited. Nonetheless, Burkett sat down for at least three different interviews with CBS News for the story now at the center of the controversy. One of those interviews was with Rather's producer, Ms. Mapes.

"There are rumors here that if there are any real documents, they are hand-written notes from Killian that someone like Burkett was holding, and that instead of using the hand-written notes, someone typed them up to look more official," says the CBS News producer. "They would look better on TV and posted on line if they were typed, but on a number of levels, that story just doesn't hold up. There are too many inconsistencies factually with what is in the memos."

THE MOST GLARING ISSUES now are the seemingly phony P.O. Box addresses used in the headers of at least one of the memorandums. Such post office box addresses were not used by the National Guard at that time, let alone a box with a number "34567," as in the memo.

Yet another issue: the 18-month gap between the retirement of Col. Walter "Buck" Staudt on March 1, 1972, and August 18, 1973, when the Killian of the disputed memos claimed that Staudt was putting pressure on him to sugarcoat an evaluation of Bush. Almost everyone involved in the National Guard in Texas says Staudt would have had virtually no influence in the active units nearly a year and a half after leaving the service.

PERHAPS MOST TROUBLING to the CBS News staff looking into how its story went off the rails is the timing of the memos' appearance. "Some 60 Minutes staffers have been working on this story for more than three years off and on," says the CBS News producer. "There have been rumors about these memos and what was in them for at least that long. No one had been able to find anything. Not a single piece of paper. But we know that a lot of people here interviewed a lot of people in Texas and elsewhere and asked very explicit questions about the existence of these memos. Then all of a sudden they show up? In one nice, neat package?"

This CBS New producer went on to explain that the questions 60 Minutes folk were asking were specific enough that people would have been able to fabricate the memorandums to meet the exact specifications the investigative journalists were looking for. "People were asking questions of sources like, 'Have you ever seen or heard of a memo that suspended Bush for failing to appear for a physical?' and 'Have you heard about or know of someone who has any documentation from back in the 1970s that shows there was pressure to get Bush into the National Guard?' It was like they were placing an order for a ready-made product. That is the biggest problem I have with this. It's all too neat and perfect for what we needed. Without these exact pieces of paper, we don't have a story. Dan has as much as admitted that. Everyone knows it. We were at a standstill on this story until these memos showed up."

REPORTERS ARE ALSO LOOKING at staff and associates of Sen. Tom Harkin, who enthusiastically held a press conference on Thursday morning using the forged documents as the tent pole for attacks against President Bush. Harkin called Bush a "liar."

"Harkin has been pushing this story for a while," says the CBS producer. "Not this specific story, but the 'Bush is a liar about his record' story. His people seemed particularly interested in making sure they could keep their boss up to date on what was going on."

That Harkin was the individual selected to be the attack dog on this particular issue was an interesting one, give that Harkin himself has a checkered history about telling the truth about his involvement in the Vietnam War.

WITH MORALE AT WHAT some Kerry campaign insiders consider an all-time low, Sen. John Kerry, who unlike Tom Harkin did serve in Vietnam, did what any true leader does. He sets up a conference call. During the Labor Day weekend, during meetings with senior staff, campaign director Mary Beth Cahill suggested to the candidate that he try to buck up the troops, since the media onslaught against him, as well as the dipping poll numbers, were affecting staff in Washington and in satellite offices around the country. Kerry acknowledged their concerns by gathering the Washington staff into the central office space in their McPherson Square suites and speaking to them via speaker phone. Kerry told them that things were going well on the road. The crowds were enthusiastic, and he could feel the campaign was moving in the right direction with the new senior staff additions.

"He actually said that he felt the campaign had turned the corner," says a Washington-based staffer. "Some of us couldn't help but laugh given that he's made fun of Bush for saying the same thing. You hear stuff like that and you just feel sick. You look over at people like [Joe] Lockhart and Cahill and they seem to understand it too."

Kerry further undercut his own efforts, when he hung up his side of the call before any questions could be asked by staff members.

"[Kerry] doesn't seem to want to acknowledge that he has problems," says the staffer. "I'm low level, but there are a few people here who have stopped coming in to work or to volunteer. We've got some issues, and the guy who should be trying to help fix it doesn't seem to care."

Cahill seems to understand this. On Thursday, since the candidate wouldn't face his own staff, Cahill pulled out the big guns. She invited her old boss, Sen. Ted Kennedy down to the Washington offices to further raise the morale of Kerry's staff.

Kennedy actually said little about Kerry, beyond the fact that he was a fighter who would continue fighting. After mentioning Kerry, Kennedy then went on a 10-minute diatribe about President Bush. "His face was turning red, he was really getting into it," says the Kerry staffer. "Then the next day we saw him make the same speech on the floor of the Senate. Guess we were the dress rehearsal."

THERE ARE OTHER PROBLEMS with the Kerry campaign. According to several Kerry and DNC sources, Kerry advisers have been furiously holding focus group meetings in an attempt to find some issue of national concern that might cut their way in the coming weeks. But nothing they've looked at seems to be working. Of course, even if they were to find something there is no guarantee their man would run with it.

For example, some media types thought having his old pal John Sasso along on the road would help focus Kerry a bit more on his stump speeches. Judging by Kerry's performance last Thursday in North Carolina, they're not sure anymore. While talking about the economy, health-care policy, Kerry went off speech and began stumbling immediately. Kerry said that he would always tell the public the truth, and if the audience didn't believe him, they could "[g]o to a web site. It can be johnkerry.com or go some other place. Go to truth.com, if there is one, and find out what's really happening," Kerry said.

I just know this is going to go back to the DNC or some Dem partisan like Harkins-Dem=liars. Someone knew what CBS wanted and like a good samaritan supplied...the fake memos.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cbs; cbsnews; killian; memo; napalminthemorning; nationalguard; presbush; rather
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To: Howlin

The font spacing is TrueType, a propriatary spacing invented in 1981, and different from any other system of character spacing. It is not exactly kerning and not exactly plain proportional.


61 posted on 09/12/2004 9:59:49 PM PDT by js1138 (Speedy architect of perfect labyrinths.)
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To: Southack

They can't even say how the damn documents got into Black Rock, FGS!

It's so over.


62 posted on 09/12/2004 9:59:58 PM PDT by Howlin (What's the Font Spacing, Kenneth?)
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To: Indie

How can CBS not know how they received the documents and yet have sources that tell them that they will not receive the originals?


63 posted on 09/12/2004 10:00:16 PM PDT by p. henry
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To: Talking_Mouse

> 7. Three words: Kerning, Kerning, Kerning!

Nope. Note kerning, but something very much like it,
and yes it screams "forgery". For tech details, see:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1214078

There are nested glyph pairs, something even an IBM
Selectric Composer could not do.


64 posted on 09/12/2004 10:00:24 PM PDT by Boundless
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To: js1138
Totally and completely agree. However when fighting with the Liberals on this people should be aware the kerning is turned off by default in Word. I got hit with that one when trying to explain to a hard core Liberal this weekend.
65 posted on 09/12/2004 10:00:34 PM PDT by Talking_Mouse (Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just... Thomas Jefferson)
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To: nyconse

66 posted on 09/12/2004 10:01:15 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: nyconse

It's hard to conceive that a group of left wing Bush haters actually conspired to take down a sitting president with fake documents.


67 posted on 09/12/2004 10:02:05 PM PDT by swheats
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To: Dont Mention the War
Calvinism Fever: Catch It! (Or don't. It's not like it's going to do you any good anyway...)

You've got my vote for funniest tag line of the year.

68 posted on 09/12/2004 10:02:07 PM PDT by Maynerd
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To: nyconse

This is unbelievable. CBS News has lost whatever journalistic integrity they may have ever had. Same with Dan Rather.

Will they ever do a mea culpa and finger both the DNC/Kerry camp and Burkett? I doubt it. They'll sit tight and hope the whole thing blows over with the next DNC attack on Bush. How can whatever they say ever be believed again??


69 posted on 09/12/2004 10:02:18 PM PDT by plushaye (President Bush - Four more years! Thanks Swifties.)
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To: Drango

All the media is covering the story. Look at the media listed just in this article. I can tell you CNN, MSNBC and Fox covered this all day off and on...Also, Saffire has an article which I saw over at Lucainne about this-I'm going to post it if it hasn't been posted. It shows you the role MSM is now playing in this story....It;s late here's the link maybe someone else could post..got to be up at 0600.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/13/opinion/13safire.html?ex=1095739200&en=7fab419d149c12d4&ei=5006&partner=ALTAVISTA1


70 posted on 09/12/2004 10:02:47 PM PDT by nyconse
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To: alancarp
"There are rumors here that if there are any real documents, they are hand-written notes from Killian that someone like Burkett was holding, and that instead of using the hand-written notes, someone typed them up to look more official," says the CBS News producer. "They would look better on TV and posted on line if they were typed, but on a number of levels, that story just doesn't hold up. There are too many inconsistencies factually with what is in the memos."

Yeah, nice try. There is a little matter about the signatures. If they were transcribed at some later date to "look more official", then the signature was forged!
71 posted on 09/12/2004 10:03:01 PM PDT by SOSCEO
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To: nyconse

"Kerry further undercut his own efforts, when he hung up his side of the call before any questions could be asked by staff members."

There really is something seriously wrong with this guy, besides the textbook narcissism.

This smacks of psychiatrically impaired judgment.

This was supposed to be a morale-boosting exercise, and he hung up on his own staff!


72 posted on 09/12/2004 10:03:02 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: nyconse
"All Dan could say was that this was an attack from the right-wing nuts, and that we should have expected this, given the stakes," says a CBS News producer. "He was terribly defensive and nervous. You could tell."

This is so offensive to me. He just can't stop can he? Piece of partisan dirt!

73 posted on 09/12/2004 10:03:31 PM PDT by ladyinred ("John Kerry reporting for spitball and typewriter duty.")
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To: Choose Ye This Day
"3) Turn the originals over to the FBI. This is quite possibly a criminal case." The latter is probably true, however, ain't going to happen. The Feebees wouldn't take it IMHO as it would smak of the GOP using the Feebees as a club to bash the Dems; the Feebees will say they are to busy working "terrorist" cases (or taking credit from those that do)
74 posted on 09/12/2004 10:03:31 PM PDT by Henchman (Demand an inquiry by the media into Kerry's dealing with the VC in PARIS!)
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To: nyconse

Let us not forget.
The CBS memos use Bush's 5000 Longmont address.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/bushdocs/11-3_2004_Personnel_File.pdf
Bush was at the 5000 Longmont address in 1968 page 1
Bush was at 2039 One Half South BLVD by 1971 page 7

They got his address at the time wrong in the memos.

Whomever forged these took the address off the first page of records.


75 posted on 09/12/2004 10:03:57 PM PDT by nonkultur
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To: nutmeg

bttt


76 posted on 09/12/2004 10:04:28 PM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Comrade Hillary - 6/28/04)
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To: Southack

To all Democrats reading this post, you have slap yourself or something and wake yourself up to reason. This Kerry madness is something you have to get yourself as far away from as you can. To put it simply, the ship is going down and you better get off it now or it will take you down with it.


77 posted on 09/12/2004 10:04:30 PM PDT by jonrick46
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To: Boundless; js1138
Thank you both for really expanding my technical knowledge in a way that a layman can understand. This is just one of the reason I love this site.
78 posted on 09/12/2004 10:04:57 PM PDT by Talking_Mouse (Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just... Thomas Jefferson)
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To: DaveMSmith

I think Harkin might be the one also.


79 posted on 09/12/2004 10:05:15 PM PDT by nyconse
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To: nyconse

>MEANWHILE, OVER THE WEEKEND journalists from around the country were attempting to track down the original source of the documents. "We're having a hard time tracking how we got the documents," says the CBS News producer. "There are at least two people in this building who have insisted we got copies of these memos from the Kerry campaign by way of an additional source. We do not have the originals, and our sources have indicated to us that we will not be getting the originals. How that is possible I don't know."<


I really can't believe what I'm reading here. We don't know who are source is. And the source, even though we don't know who it is, tells us we won't be getting the originals. If they don't know who the source is, how do they know the source is saying no originals are coming. Boy, Dan Rather and company are some first class journalists alright.

They got them from the DNC. Forged documents from the DNC to smear the President. Imagine If the RNC had done this to a sitting Dem President, using Brit Hume and Fox News. In all reality, this is bigger than Watergate.


80 posted on 09/12/2004 10:05:22 PM PDT by Tom_Busch (Vote Bush/Cheney in 2004)
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