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Kerry, Edwards and Daschle May Face Vote on Flag
washington post ^ | 9/13/04

Posted on 09/12/2004 7:59:43 PM PDT by knak

For some Republicans it is the perfect political storm: a Senate vote on a constitutional amendment to protect the U.S. flag that would put Democratic presidential nominee John F. Kerry, running mate John Edwards and Minority Leader Thomas A. Daschle on the spot just a few weeks before the Nov. 2 elections.

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KEYWORDS: flagamendment; issues; kerry; napalminthemorning; oldglory
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To: risk

I cannot conjur up a government action that deserves a flag-burning in protest more than the attempt to outlaw the burning of flags!


21 posted on 09/12/2004 8:18:39 PM PDT by cartoonistx
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Proper disposal of worn-out flags:

Before a flag can be burned, it must first be cut into separate pieces. The field of blue must first be cut from the stripes. Then, the stripes must be cut into strips.

To properly burn the flag. During the ceremony, the stripes are burned first, and then the field of blue. The ashes are buried.


22 posted on 09/12/2004 8:20:28 PM PDT by MattMa (I'm not a victim, I am a conservative and if you get to close, I just may bite.)
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To: FesterUSMC

Burning the flag is right up their with Blasphemy to me, and anyone caught doing it should be charged with treason and thrown in prison for the rest of their stinking lives!!!


23 posted on 09/12/2004 8:20:33 PM PDT by lionstar (www.discussdrudge.com)
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To: Founding Father

Ahem. Aren't you supposed to be resting peacefully under a memorial somewhere? May I ask which of the founding fathers you are? By the way, I've been raising bloody hell over the AWB, and I think with a few thousand other FReepers we've had some success in restoring our 2nd amendment rights to some degree -- without firing a shot. I hope you approve! I think you're needed over on a thread about religion in government, though. It's been nice talking with you, and I'm happy to see that you're still keeping an eye on us.


24 posted on 09/12/2004 8:21:43 PM PDT by risk
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To: FesterUSMC
Flag burning should be banned in the United States...

The major problem with such a law is that laws consistently function on verifiable quantification in most every respect. Thus, if a U.S. flag is defined as having the dimentions of 3 feet by 5 feet, then the cranks will just make a 2.5 foot by 4.5 foot flag and burn that.

What's more, burning the flag is an acceptable means of retiring a flag. Such practices are done with reverence and sincerity. The punks burn the flag in anger. So, in effect, we are not outlawing an action; we are outlawing an attitude.

That's pretty damned dangerous territory to tread. The Leftists have been doing as much with their idiotic "hate speech" crap. I'm not so sure we should venture into that domain...

25 posted on 09/12/2004 8:22:59 PM PDT by Prime Choice (The Log Cabin Republicans AREN'T.)
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To: cartoonistx
I cannot conjur up a government action that deserves a flag-burning in protest more than the attempt to outlaw the burning of flags!

That's the beauty of the first amendment. You don't get to decide for someone else whether or not what he's expressing is acceptable.

26 posted on 09/12/2004 8:22:59 PM PDT by risk
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To: risk
That's the beauty of the first amendment. You don't get to decide for someone else whether or not what he's expressing is acceptable.

True. So when can we look forward to the revocation of all those idiotic "hate speech" laws?

Oh...right...never.

27 posted on 09/12/2004 8:23:47 PM PDT by Prime Choice (The Log Cabin Republicans AREN'T.)
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To: Prime Choice

Let's get to it.


28 posted on 09/12/2004 8:24:12 PM PDT by risk
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To: knak
I will never support an Amendment to ban flag burning.

That said, I will risk jail to beat the hell out of any who tries to burn one around me, and take my chances with a Texas jury.

29 posted on 09/12/2004 8:24:55 PM PDT by HoustonCurmudgeon (Blogosphere ... the 21st Century Revolution)
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To: lionstar
Burning the flag is right up their with Blasphemy to me, and anyone caught doing it should be charged with treason and thrown in prison for the rest of their stinking lives!!!

Does this apply to all who burn their flag when retiring it (as is commonly accepted by all veterans' and military groups)?

30 posted on 09/12/2004 8:25:12 PM PDT by Prime Choice (The Log Cabin Republicans AREN'T.)
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To: knak

Some group should start a public show where every month or so they draw 1 foreign flag at random and a UN flag and burn them. Kerry et al would be flooding D.C. with anti-burning bills. The UN would crap all over itself. Be a hoot.


31 posted on 09/12/2004 8:26:40 PM PDT by Waco
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To: FesterUSMC
I think anyone convicted of beating a flag burner should have to pay a $2 fine for the first offence and $2.50 for each offence thereafter.
32 posted on 09/12/2004 8:27:31 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Graybeard - Illinois resident - Keyes voter)
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To: risk

You burn MY flag (that I've earned the right to have over me when I'm buried) at your own hazourd in my presence. I will become very violent in expressing my first ammendment rights.


33 posted on 09/12/2004 8:27:40 PM PDT by stumpy (M)
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To: stumpy
I'll give you a better explanation even. You'll be defending invaluable property. Your first amendment rights are not possibly violent. However, I understand it to be a fundamental human right to defend one's priceless possessions. I consider any one of my flags to be priceless.
34 posted on 09/12/2004 8:29:17 PM PDT by risk
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To: knak

BTTT


35 posted on 09/12/2004 8:29:22 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Libertarianize the GOP
kerry never shows up to vote

Isn't it wonderful that we, the American peeples, are paying this guy what, 140K-150K plus how many hundreds of thousands of dollars in perks to be a Senator and he never shows up to do his job??

36 posted on 09/12/2004 8:31:26 PM PDT by technomage
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To: WorkingClassFilth
"Don't just threaten to kick them in the 'nads and then give them an option - cut them off at the knees and drive them into the ground with a baseball bat."

I really like the way you think!

38 posted on 09/12/2004 8:34:49 PM PDT by fuzzthatwuz (To question John f'n Kerry is to question his patriotism)
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To: logcabinguy
Welcome. Are you aware of the connotations of your newly chosen screen name?
39 posted on 09/12/2004 8:35:48 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Graybeard - Illinois resident - Keyes voter)
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