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Vietnam Veterans for the Truth March in DC "Live Thread"
CSPAN ^ | 9/12/04 | mylife

Posted on 09/12/2004 10:44:48 AM PDT by mylife

CSPAN will cover the march live at 2:00 EST


TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: antikerryrally; goodmendied; kerrylied; napalminthemorning; powerfulstuff; rally; veterans; vietnam; welcomehome; weweresoldiers
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To: GoLightly

Will you ask your kid for a positive reason to vote for John Kerry? It's hard to get a persuasive reason from the kool aid drinkers. Not being Bush will not sway anyone.


801 posted on 09/12/2004 1:25:56 PM PDT by Betty Jane
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To: Loyal Buckeye

It took no courage Kerry for to testify, there is no statue of limitations on defaming a generation! (since their story was not told in ther MSM)


802 posted on 09/12/2004 1:26:07 PM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: mylife

Kerry did not have to attack the warrior to attack the war.


803 posted on 09/12/2004 1:26:13 PM PDT by AZamericonnie
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To: AZamericonnie

WE ARE VENTING OUR HEARTS!


804 posted on 09/12/2004 1:26:59 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: Mo1

bookmark/735


805 posted on 09/12/2004 1:27:07 PM PDT by reformedliberal (W stands for WINNER!)
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A Shameful Past
Don't play the Vietnam card with me, John Kerry.

BY LAURA BARTHOLOMEW ARMSTRONG
Monday, March 1, 2004 12:01 a.m.

The Vietnamization of the 2004 presidential campaign has unfortunately begun, thanks to the likely Democratic nominee. But John Kerry's service--Vietnam, in case you haven't heard--doesn't exist in a vacuum. His 19-year Senate record is at long odds with that short naval career, just as his vote to send troops to liberate Iraq is at odds with his later vote not to fund the mission. His supporters ask us to note his heroism in combat. We have, ad nauseam. But more important, and the thing he doesn't want discussed, is the well-documented though less well-known hypocrisy of those who use his service to further their antimilitary agenda.

I'm the daughter of Lt. Col. Roger J. "Black Bart" Bartholomew, a First Air Cavalry rocket artillery helicopter pilot who was killed in Vietnam on Thanksgiving Day 1968, when I was eight years old. I'm a former journalist with a military newspaper, a U.S. Marine widow, and I am appalled at Mr. Kerry's latest assertions that our president "has reopened the wounds of Vietnam." For months, I've heard President Bush talking about the present, while Mr. Kerry and the media want to focus on the past. I think we need to see the whole picture.


Liberal critics of American foreign policy have claimed they "support the troops"--but they're obviously hoping we have short memories. Many of us will never forget the hundreds of lawyers they dispatched to Florida in 2000 to make sure military absentee ballots did not get counted (some sources say that two out of three military voices in Florida were never heard). That was after the Clinton administration initiated rules making it more difficult to vote on overseas military bases.

Mr. Kerry and his party overwhelmingly oppose Pentagon funding and equipment, and make life miserable for our services on Capitol Hill. The liberals who sneered at the concept of duct tape keeping us safe last year are the same congressmen who find it acceptable when our brave and resourceful Marines must use it to hold together 40-year-old helicopters in combat. My brother Jay, a CH-46 pilot, used it during the first Gulf War, and our guys are still flying those same helicopters a decade later.

Mr. Kerry has tried to distance himself from some anti-war activists and surround himself with veterans, yet his anti-military voting record speaks much louder and resonates with those of us who are affected by the results.

Kerry supporters are the ones who would applaud my high school social studies teacher, a draft dodger who in 1976 banished me to the library for the duration of our Vietnam unit because I questioned his one-sided presentation of our troops as baby killers. Dare I say, these are the same people who spat on our guys back in the 1960s and disdained them in the '70s.

These were the people who in 1992 mocked Ross Perot's running mate, Adm. James Stockdale, a true hero and former prisoner of war, after his hearing aid (legacy of Viet Cong torture masters) gave him trouble during a televised debate. They downplayed Bob Dole's military service in 1996. And these are the same people who just last year yelled antimilitary slurs at dependents driving vehicles with Defense Department stickers--even picked on military kids about what their daddies did for a living. These are the Americans who love to enjoy the liberties of our land, yet have little understanding about those who actually risk their lives to ensure they exist. Until, of course, their candidate can claim that service on his résumé, and then they know all about us.


As the kid of a real war hero who did not come back, I'd like to comment not on Kerry's service, but his postservice activities. Vietnam Veterans Against the War, Mr. Kerry's organization of choice when he returned from his shortened tour of duty in Vietnam (and his springboard to fame), was known to me even as a child. The organization, while providing a place for angst-ridden vets to land after coming home, had an awful effect on those of us who lost our fathers.

It was bad enough to hear our dads criticized by those who hated the military, but to hear vets allege rampant war crimes and call their fellow soldiers evil before all the world really twisted the knife. Mr. Kerry led the way, proud in the company of Jane Fonda and others we believed had caused the deaths of good men. This group's testimony tarnished honorable actions. After taking the oath to preserve and protect, they grandstanded, throwing service awards in a show of defiance that diminished each sacrifice. Their stories dominated while the stories of thousands of honorable vets went untold. I don't hold it against them after so many years, but I'm dead sure I don't want their darling Kerry, the man who voted against funding our guys in Operation Iraqi Freedom, to be our next commander in chief.

In 2004, nothing is more important than continuing to protect America and fight terrorism. President Bush has led, not perfectly but earnestly. He has put much on the line to do what he believes is right. And he needs our continued support in the months to come.


806 posted on 09/12/2004 1:27:31 PM PDT by theophilusscribe ("America is too great for small dreams." —Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: don-o
I am, frankly, stuned that C-Span is airing this.

I'm a little stuned myself. I just checked DU to see how they are spinning it, but there are no current threads on the VVAK event. I guess it's unspinnable. So they are doing the internet equivalent of putting their fingers in their ears and humming real loud until it goes away.

807 posted on 09/12/2004 1:27:46 PM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson (Ho, Ho, Ho Chi MInh/Loves John Kerry so vote him in!)
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To: bentfeather

'We need a leader, not a weathervane!'


808 posted on 09/12/2004 1:27:47 PM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: mylife

Not just ONeil! Laura Armstrong is EXCELLENT a daughter of a viet nam vet.

"Can not be denied or spun, ... weak on defense, weak on the military."

Pg 211 form Kerrys own new book tour of duty "trigger happy american yahoos..."


809 posted on 09/12/2004 1:27:54 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: mylife

trigger happy yahoos?


810 posted on 09/12/2004 1:28:12 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: GoLightly

Slap him down again, Pa!


811 posted on 09/12/2004 1:28:15 PM PDT by Palladin (Proud to be a FReeper!)
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To: DoughtyOne

Dan Rather -- a phony Marine vet who won't even give Vietnam veterans the time of day.


812 posted on 09/12/2004 1:28:24 PM PDT by AF68
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To: All

I still cannot understand how a PEACENIK TRAITOR is running for President during these times.


813 posted on 09/12/2004 1:28:29 PM PDT by Gucho
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To: mylife

Whoa!


814 posted on 09/12/2004 1:28:50 PM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: DoughtyOne

...ouch, make that four sovereign nation. Grrrrr...


815 posted on 09/12/2004 1:28:54 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservatives)
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To: longtermmemmory

Look at the smiles on the faces of those vets


816 posted on 09/12/2004 1:29:23 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: Gucho


The modern Democrat (gay) party.


817 posted on 09/12/2004 1:29:45 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: theophilusscribe

Bookmark/806


818 posted on 09/12/2004 1:30:08 PM PDT by 2nd amendment mama (Can The Ban - let the AWB sunset • www.2asisters.org • www.cantheban.net)
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To: gopwinsin04
SHE IS GOOD....She is like so many of us.......ASTOUNDED that john kerry has gotten so far into our political process.....

She mentions he had the help of TEDDY KENNEDY...wow..SO GLAD SHE SAID THIS!

She says we are here in solidarity, so that our young soldiers do NOT have to salute a COMMANDER IN CHIEF whos support for the troops BLOWS WITH THE WIND.

She says they are motivated by their love of country!

She says his kerry's LIFE WORK has degraded the military.....that his lies are perpetuated even in his newest book....quotes kerry

It disturbs kerry that a few trigger happy yahoos (something about killing civilians followed...was messed up on CSPAN STREAM)

Kerry deceit and vindictiveness are FACT! WOW. SHe does not mess around.

Tells the vets in front of her they have EARNED the RIGHT TO SPEAK.

Kerry was wrong to attack your spirit and honor,...HE WAS WRONG

( This woman is wonderful!)

819 posted on 09/12/2004 1:30:28 PM PDT by Republic (Terri Schiavo,saved by TERRI's LAW after 7 days of starvation, fights ACLU-Felos to keep law intact)
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To: gopwinsin04

She is good!


820 posted on 09/12/2004 1:30:56 PM PDT by mathluv (Protect my grandchildren's future. Vote for Bush/Cheney '04.)
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