Posted on 09/11/2004 4:52:36 PM PDT by MadIvan
'S Okay!
And to add icing to the cake, GWB,along with Zell Miller was somewhere in WVA yesterday(?).Did you get a chance to see them? Zell is one of my new heros. How does WVA like him?
Bush is a MAN.
Kerry is a gigolo and a worm - and those are his GOOD points.
Well, I retract my previous contention that steel tarriffs would result in only harm. Apparently, they turned this one vote.
Has anybody noticed that when republicans vote for a democrat, they're mentioned in the press (if ever) as "thoughtful."
But when dems vote for a republican, they're mentioned as a "turncoat?"
I wonder why? Couldn't have anything to do with media bias, huh?
Mark
I think you missed the entire meaning of the article. It's not tariffs - It's jobs for people in this country not overseas. This is one way a president can produce jobs, by thinking of our people first. The people that elect him. You move-on dot org people shouldn't get up so early.
I know a few union people that are voting for Bush .. though they won't admit it in public .. if you know what I mean
The divide between union members and union leadership is the same in Britain. Union leaders will support Labour no matter what. Union members, skilled workers in particular, will look at their paycheque and say, "Hmm, I'm voting Conservative, thank you."
Regards, Ivan
I know what you mean and it's not all about jobs either. It's about family(and their safety), God, guns and abortion (which the MSM really hates to hear).
West Virginia, the state that has returned the KKK darling to Washington so many times he is now showing Alzheimer's, and we are to believe they will go for Bush. Byrd will not let it happen and he controls the state. Gimmee a break!
Did Byrd "control" WV in 2000 when it went for Bush?
He made a stop there, and promised your folks that if they "stuck with" him, he would "stick with" them (regarding tariffs on imports).
After the election, he "stuck it TO them," doing NOTHING to help. It was W that DID what i42 had PROMISED!
Byrd is an unpleasant joke to many of us. He campaigned big time to defeat Rep. Shelley Moore Capito and you see where she is- Washington,DC.
You are so right. The dems have been terrible for WV.
That's about what it amounts to (in the eyes of good, money is my God, Republicans)...It's no secret that George, or any of the Bushes, or any Republicans represent the working middle class of the country...The fact that Pesident Bush helped out the steel workers is somewhat of a fluke since it goes against the grain of his campaing contributors and the NWO (WTO)...
Most American workers in the labor force are hard-working folks, whether they are union employees, or not...Most are torn between voting for the candidate that will work to keep them working and the other candidate who believes in a strong military, and defense, 2nd Amendment and some type of moral character...Unfortunately, a strong military and 2nd Amendment doesn't feed your family in the short term...
If George and the rest of the Republicans happen to slide a little further to the left and get a little more pro-(American)labor, they will win every election by a landslide...Course corporate China and Mexico would go nuts...
From the 9/10/04 Wheeling (W.Va.) Intelligencer:
WEIRTON - The "Steelworkers for Bush" want it known that they truly are steelworkers and that they are union members who think for themselves and question union leadership. The group that stood behind Republican President George W. Bush when he spoke in Wheeling on Aug. 29 called a news conference Thursday at the Millsop Community Center in Weirton to refute claims that they aren't really steelworkers.
Fourteen of them have signed a letter to Democratic challenger John Kerry asking that he "do the right thing" and not allow steelworkers that support him "to attack their fellow union brothers and sisters."
Eleven members of the group indicate with their signature that they are workers for Weirton Steel. They are Richard Casini, Michael Ingole, Henry DiNofrio, Bob Hoover, Rhonda Jennings, Wesley Robinson, Frank Casini, David Haught, Donald Elder, Donald Ryan and Greg Williams.
Others who signed the letter were Jerry DiBacco, an employee of the Wheeling-Pittsburgh Steel Corp.; Robert Carpenter, a worker at Weircove; and Weirton Steel retiree Robert Haught.
The steelworkers crafted their letter after steel union leadership and members of the Kerry campaign announced earlier this week that they were investigating the tape of Bush's Wheeling speech to determine whether the workers in black T-shirts behind him actually were steelworkers.
Richard Casini, who introduced the president in Wheeling, said the steelworkers support Bush because the steel tariffs he imposed "saved the industry." Casini is also a Democrat and a union steward with the Independent Steelworkers Union. The ISU, the United Steelworkers of America and the United Mine Workers of America all have endorsed Kerry, he added. Casini said he has been questioned by the ISU membership about the union's decision to endorse Kerry.
"They thought I did it," he said. "There was an enormous amount of our people who were not happy. I thought we needed a voice" to show support for Bush, "and the effort just snowballed."
Casini added that since he spoke out for the president, he has not received the best of treatment from some other union members that support Kerry. "I get comments every now and then," he said. "I've found things in my mailbox at the union office that were just childish - the type of things you would find on the Internet. They were put there to challenge my views.
"I took them to our union president (Mark Glyptis), and he has asked them to stop. When they get in the attack mode, it is the most disturbing thing."
At a Kerry rally in Steubenville on Saturday, former United Steel Workers of America local president John Saunders - now co-chair of the Ohio County Democratic Party - said he disagreed that the tariffs and Bush were what had saved the steel industry. Saunders suggested the industry was instead saved by concessions in benefits for retirees agreed to by union membership.
"That is ridiculous nonsense," Casini said Thursday. "The tariffs are what saved it. These people who would tell you otherwise are intellectually dishonest. They think we (union members) are idiots who can't think for themselves.
"There are many steelworkers who would be happy if the union got out of the politics business and got back to the business of representing our concerns about our jobs and pensions."
He added that the Steelworkers for Bush appearance in Wheeling "was public," and union leadership didn't have to secretly investigate tapes to prove the steelworkers' identity. "They just find it difficult to accept it when (union members) just won't follow them," Casini said. "It used to be thought that what was good for the union was good for the worker, and what was good for the union was what was good for Wheeling-Pitt. That is not the case anymore."
Thanks for the refresher. Forgot about that.
"We're smarter than we look in WV. GO Bush!!"
Never thought otherwise.
I'm as right-wing as you are, buddy. I have nothing to do with Move On or any such group.
My point was that people should be thinking of higher issues in this crucial year. This guy wasn't. That's all.
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