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IBM Selectric Composer required you to type document twice!
http://www.ibmcomposer.org/SelComposer/description.htm | self

Posted on 09/11/2004 2:41:47 PM PDT by airedale

Someone else mentioned a website that is dedicated tot the IBM Selectric Composer. The link above will take you to that website. Besides being around four times more expensive to purchase than a regular IBM Selectric the website had a bit of information about the IBM Selectric Composer that hasn't been mentioned in anything I've seen so far. It seems you have to type everything twice perfectly when you use the Composer. Here is that section from the ibmcomposer.org website: click here

"The first IBM Composer was the IBM "Selectric" Composer announced in 1966. It was a hybrid "Selectric" typewriter that was modified to have proportional spaced fonts. It is 100% mechanical and has no digital electronics. Since it has no memory, the user was required to type everything twice. While typing the text the first time, the machine would measure the length of the line and count the number of spaces. When the user finished typing a line of text, they would record special measurements into the right margin of the paper. Once the entire column of text was typed and measured, it would then be retyped, however before typing each line, the operator would set the special justification dial (on the right side) to the proper settings, then type the line. The machine would automatically insert the appropriate amount of space between words so that all of the text would be justified."

Now the guy who supposedly prepared this documents per his son didn't type. Who in the world that isn't an expert typist and didn't have a specific reason in document production is going to type ordinary documents twice? The only reason I can think of is that either your in advertising and you need it for an ad or your publishing a book.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 2004electionbias; cbsjumpedtheshark; commiebs; conspiracy; forgeries; ibm; killian; liberalmedia; lyingliars; magictypewriter; mediabias; rather; seebs; selectricgate
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1 posted on 09/11/2004 2:41:49 PM PDT by airedale
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To: airedale

Well JFK's assassin had a magic bullet. I guess that Dan Ratherbiased's source could have a magic typewriter.


2 posted on 09/11/2004 2:46:23 PM PDT by weegee (What's the provenance, Kenneth? Where did the forged SeeBS memo come from?)
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To: airedale
All CBS has to do is locate ANY '70s vintage typing or typesetting machine (or even presstype) capable of duplicating the memo and overlay it and have it match up like the current Word-produced versions are.

That would end it once and for all, in CBS's favor.

But don't hold your breath waiting for that to happen.

3 posted on 09/11/2004 2:46:29 PM PDT by In_25_words_or_less (It's more a guideline than a rule.)
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To: airedale

*sigh*

The "type twice" feature only applied if you wanted to create right-justified documents. It does not apply in this case where the documents had ragged right margins.

Please, is there any way we can create some sort of clearninghouse for these already-hashed out theories so we don't have to create new threads every time someone happens onto one that they didn't happen to read about yet on FreeRepublic (but has already been discussed nonetheless)?


4 posted on 09/11/2004 2:47:42 PM PDT by mcg1969
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To: airedale

Not to mention, he was typing on a machine that cost about as much as a Chrysler


5 posted on 09/11/2004 2:47:54 PM PDT by bikepacker67 (Sandy wasn't stuffing his socks, he was stuffing A sock.)
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To: In_25_words_or_less
That would end it once and for all, in CBS's favor.

Not necessarily. The signatures are obvious fakes.

6 posted on 09/11/2004 2:50:47 PM PDT by P-Marlowe
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To: In_25_words_or_less
All CBS has to do is locate ANY '70s vintage typing or typesetting machine (or even presstype) capable of duplicating the memo and overlay it and have it match up like the current Word-produced versions are.

Somebody else already has, and the result is...

Typewriter Expert can't duplicate Guard memos using IBM Composer

7 posted on 09/11/2004 2:53:32 PM PDT by steveegg (C-BS, w/Dan Blather - the official network and anchor of the Clintonistas and Ketchup/Breck)
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To: airedale

proportional spacing and justification are two different things.

The early proportional spacing typewriters basically had a variable carriage advance dependant on the letter typed, for instance a "w" would cause a four or five times greater carriage advance than an "i" would.

The justification technique mentioned here was a method to stretch the entire line content from margin to margin by padding spaces between words and, if necessary, stretching words.

A typewriter with justification capabilities doesn't necessarily have a proportional font.


8 posted on 09/11/2004 2:53:46 PM PDT by Wil H
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To: weegee

The guy obviously knew that this would someday be an important historical document, so he went the extra mile to produce a quality memo on state-of-the-art equipment. Why can't anyone else see this?


9 posted on 09/11/2004 2:54:21 PM PDT by fhayek (Spitball veteran for Bush)
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To: airedale

There still needs to be evidence that he had access to this kind of typewriter. Has anyone looked into what was being used by the TANG in the early 70's?


10 posted on 09/11/2004 2:55:03 PM PDT by TripsN1
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To: airedale
While that may have been true of the 1966 Composer, by the early 70's is was paired with a magnetic tape memory and only a single typing (with codes) was necessary.

But it wasn't done on a Composer!!

11 posted on 09/11/2004 2:55:29 PM PDT by fat city (Julius Rosenberg's soviet code name was "Liberal")
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To: airedale; All

I really think we need a re-enactment of the memos to show how foolish this is. Then we need to know about the price of such a machine, etc.

You know what's funny about all of this? The people at CBS are such idiots that they thought they could just use an MS Word document and there would be no problem. They thought they could get by by merely having Mately authenticate 1 one fo the four memos-- the one with the May deadline for Bush to get his physical (but that's total garbage because he had until the last day of July). They didn't bone up on TANG regulations, they didn't do basic homework on this. This is messy and there is no explanation but that they wanted to do damage to Bush.

These cable shows really need to get an expert or Hugh Hewitt (uninterrupted) to talk about this. Some of the people on don't know the million reasons why this is horsesh*t.


12 posted on 09/11/2004 2:58:39 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: airedale

someone needs to get a picture of Geraldo Rivera in Al Capone's Vault next to Dan Rather LOL


13 posted on 09/11/2004 2:59:17 PM PDT by FesterUSMC
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To: FesterUSMC

...reading Hitler's diary.


14 posted on 09/11/2004 3:00:58 PM PDT by weegee (What's the provenance, Kenneth? Where did the forged SeeBS memo come from?)
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To: airedale

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1212935/posts


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1213000/posts


15 posted on 09/11/2004 3:01:15 PM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry has been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security)
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To: Registered

PING! Image request, see #13 and 14.


16 posted on 09/11/2004 3:02:20 PM PDT by weegee (What's the provenance, Kenneth? Where did the forged SeeBS memo come from?)
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17 posted on 09/11/2004 3:02:51 PM PDT by El Conservador ("No blood for oil!"... Then don't drive, you moron!!!)
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To: faithincowboys

It's Dan Rather!
18 posted on 09/11/2004 3:03:18 PM PDT by FesterUSMC
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To: In_25_words_or_less
That would end it once and for all, in CBS's favor.

Not even close. I happen to think (after reading the ENTIRE 100+page manual) that the composer COULD (if a Times Roman font - or similar - was available). But that doesn't go nearly far enough. What are the chances that a Guard unit had one? As noted, they cost as much as a new car (and a pretty nice one at that). Ok, so maybe they had one? If so, why is the only document prepared on it a couple personal notes for Killian? Especially if (as described by his family) he couldn't type? It wasn't an easy unit to use. So a unit secretary typed them for him but none of the other Unit records (including those with his signature) are from that typewriter? The memo's weren't all dated from the same weekend - surely if you spent $4000 on a typewriter it would get USED?

19 posted on 09/11/2004 3:04:14 PM PDT by IMRight
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To: airedale
information about the IBM Selectric Composer that hasn't been mentioned in anything I've seen so far. It seems you have to type everything twice

Info posted 2 days ago (bold per original post):

"Since it has no memory, the user was required to type everything twice."

YET ANOTHER EXPERT, MORE ARGUMENTS AGAINST (CBS Documents)
Posted by PAR35 to Mr Ramsbotham
On News/Activism 09/09/2004 3:53:27 PM CDT · 42 of 77
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1211280/posts

20 posted on 09/11/2004 3:04:35 PM PDT by PAR35
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