Agreed: CBS, Rather, Kerry and the DNC engaged in a deception: NOW WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO ABOUT IT?

9/11/04

[Liz]

Alright, already.

Enough of the analytical pieces.

There's more than enough proof that CBS, Rather, Kerry and the DNC engaged in wholesale deception to dupe TV audiences, and voters.

Now what are we gonna do about it?

There are multiple legal avenues ----- plus economic sanctions against CBS------ that can be employed.

Post your opinions here. Then let's get on with it.

[I'm ALL Right!]

I want to see Dan Rather FIRED FIRED FIRED FIRED FIRED FIRED FIRED. Then I'll be satisfied.

[EdReform]

Double ditto that!!

[rake]

In addition to the swarm on Rather, we need to put the heat on his paymasters by showing we can hurt them financially through their advertisers.

Freeper woodb01 has compiled a great list of the sponsors from that particular Sixty Minutes episode.

here

This is one area in which I believe we can make a substantial difference. I urge you all to e-mail these advertisers. Emphasise the point that this forgery was perpetrated on the American people in order to influence our election. Tell them you're angry and outraged and will boycott any firm associated with CBS News division.

[EdReform]

BTT^th

[longtermmemmory]

This is the point of this lie. It is to force Bush to deal with saying whether he did or did not go for "a" physical.

THE DNC TALKING POINT TACTIC IS TO FORCE BUSH TO "PROVE" HE IS INNOCENT BY DISPROVING A NEGATIVE.


If anything it should be a dig at Dan Rather. Something like "we leave it to CBS news and the forgery experts. The official records have been released, the unoffical records CBS faxed to the WH have been released. If the media is free to examine all those documents."

[labard1]

"Laugh at them. Write typewriter jokes for Leno. Laugh some more."

Absolutely right! If we can get lots of people to laugh at SeeBS and Rather in public it will be much more effective than protests. Ridicule is the best way to counter this outrage.

[Cboldt]

Executive (The Selectric does NOT do proportional fonts)

[Liz]

Andrew Heyward -- CBS News President
Department: Headquarters
Phone: (212) 975-4321
Fax: (212) 975-1893
Address: 524 W 57th St, New York, NY 10019
CBS Television Group
51 W 52nd St # 35
New York, NY 10019
(212) 975-4321

CBS News FAX is (212) 975-1998

CBS Evening News Desk: 212-975-3691

CBS News Comments
212-975-3248. (Leave a comment on the answering machine)


Email To reach producers, anchors and correspondents

uttm@cbsnews.com

Telephone 212 975-2526

60 Minutes
524 West 57th Street
New York, NY 10019
212- 975-3247 CALL AND COMPLAIN!

60 Minutes Kelli Edwards 212-975-6795

60II@cbsnews.com

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First Commercial Break (Bush bashing segment)

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Home Depot Executive addresses (links on site)

Home Depot Investor Relations

Home Depot Public Relations

customer-service@homedepot.com



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Third Commercial break (End of Bush Bash segment)

Morgan Stanley

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1-800-494-4855



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See woodb01 post #4 for links to all of the above here:


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1213079/posts#4

[AMDG&BVMH]

"The Bush team is wise to continue to point to official records that show an honorable discharge. If the Dems question the official record they open themselves up for the same questions regarding Kerry's official records."

Exactly. These memos are not even official records, but memos of LTC Killian to himself (allegedly!!). As such, they have the same weight as asking someone what they THOUGHT about LT Bush BACK THEN. (Except this guy is conveniently dead and can't be crossexamined). IOW personal opinion, as official actions by the commander WERE forwarded to the OFFICIAL FILE.

AND the problem Kerry has ARE with OFFICIAL RECORDS! Awards, etc. Yet, the President Bush does not need to address these issues, because the Swifties and others (bless their hearts and loyalty to our contry) are doing that.

[Liz]

LOL. Nice find.

[Liz]

Is that all?

[longtermmemmory]

We need head to head, side by side comparisons of OFFICIAL RECORDS. Bush's record vs Kerry's record including all self inflicted and band aid "wounds".

[glock rocks]

AbsoFReepinlutely!!

[Cboldt]

And, the Executive can be fitted with hammers and keys to make "superscript st," etc.

On the Executive, you could optionally have removable type-bars. This is somewhat like later Smith-Corona portables which have removable type-slugs on the two outermost type-bars, with corresponding changeable keytop caps. In this case, though, it's the whole type-bar.

http://www.geocities.com/wbd641/TypeManuals2.html

The geocities webpage may be "down" due to heavy hits, but it just shows photos of performing the hammer changing operation.

But, even though the Executive could do proportional fonts, and "superscript th" "superscript st," it could NOT produce the documents that CBS is passing off as authentic.

The documents are forged. That will be proven with a combination of forensics and content. CBS, the DNC and the KErry campaign ALL handled the documents. All either has doubts about the authenticity, or were given evidence (in CBS's case, evidence they chose to ignore and not report) that the documents were not authentic.

This is an amazing set of circumstances, and self-destructive on the part of CBS, DNC and the Kerry campaign. You just have to marvel at the whole set of events.

[AMDG&BVMH]

"spout the Dem talking points that the real issue is about Bush's NG service"

The response needs to be simple, clear, and probably repetitive:

1. President Bush served honorably. POINT: are you questioning the President's honor?
2. Service to our country in the National Guard was and is honorable.
3. LTC Killian's opinion of LT Bush's service was fully expressed in the OFFICIAL FILES. [It would be nice if more TX Guard Members of that era would stand TALL. This smear is really attempting to attack Bush THROUGH the National Guard].

Pres Bush and the White House: 1. and 2. and then stay on message with his positive agenda and NOT get sucked into Blather's agenda of "the quesions" which is flailing at a dead horse.

Everyone else: FR, talk radio, FOX Drudge etc. continue to REFUTE every and all assertions that the memos are real, and even if they were that they mean anything. I do not want to see these assertions go unchallenged and take hold in people's minds as having any truth.

But for the President and White House to get involved in the minutia of the debate merely sucks them into the molasses pit that the Democrats and Rather have laid out there. They are trying to set the agenda with a bunch of meaningless trash. President Bush cannot get sucked into meaningless trash, and let them set the agenda. At his level, laugh off the meaningless trash, IMO.

[mombonn]

I'm not even entirely sure that the TANG would have had electric typewriters by then.

I worked at Merrill Lynch in 1972. I had the ONLY Selectric in the office, and I worked directly for THE Vice President in charge. He was the MANAGER of the local office. Everyone else had manual typewriters.

If Merrill still operated on manuals, I can't imagine that the National Guard was more progressive.

[AMDG&BVMH]

"We need head to head, side by side comparisons of OFFICIAL RECORDS"

Yes, keep up the pressure for Kerry to release his OFFICIAL file. He has released only his copies of the awards, etc.

This is also a simple reply: Bush has released his OFFICIAL FILE via government records. Why hasn't Kerry?

THEN the document experts can compare Kerry's copies of his records with those released from the OFFICIAL REPOSITORY and we will see what we shall see . . .

[Liz]

Good stuff. Nice find.

[longtermmemmory]

So a side by side comparison would show Bushes timeline and kerry's wouls show a big blank.

[glock rocks]

This seems as good a place as any to post this...

from The Hill - Byron York

Bush’s National Guard years

Before you fall for Dems’ spin, here are the facts

What do you really know about George W. Bush’s time in the Air National Guard?
That he didn’t show up for duty in Alabama? That he missed a physical? That his daddy got him in?

News coverage of the president’s years in the Guard has tended to focus on one brief portion of that time — to the exclusion of virtually everything else. So just for the record, here, in full, is what Bush did:

The future president joined the Guard in May 1968. Almost immediately, he began an extended period of training. Six weeks of basic training. Fifty-three weeks of flight training. Twenty-one weeks of fighter-interceptor training.

That was 80 weeks to begin with, and there were other training periods thrown in as well. It was full-time work. By the time it was over, Bush had served nearly two years.

Not two years of weekends. Two years.

After training, Bush kept flying, racking up hundreds of hours in F-102 jets. As he did, he accumulated points toward his National Guard service requirements. At the time, guardsmen were required to accumulate a minimum of 50 points to meet their yearly obligation.

According to records released earlier this year, Bush earned 253 points in his first year, May 1968 to May 1969 (since he joined in May 1968, his service thereafter was measured on a May-to-May basis).

Bush earned 340 points in 1969-1970. He earned 137 points in 1970-1971. And he earned 112 points in 1971-1972. The numbers indicate that in his first four years, Bush not only showed up, he showed up a lot. Did you know that?

That brings the story to May 1972 — the time that has been the focus of so many news reports — when Bush “deserted” (according to anti-Bush filmmaker Michael Moore) or went “AWOL” (according to Terry McAuliffe, chairman of the Democratic National Committee).

Bush asked for permission to go to Alabama to work on a Senate campaign. His superior officers said OK. Requests like that weren’t unusual, says retired Col. William Campenni, who flew with Bush in 1970 and 1971.

“In 1972, there was an enormous glut of pilots,” Campenni says. “The Vietnam War was winding down, and the Air Force was putting pilots in desk jobs. In ’72 or ’73, if you were a pilot, active or Guard, and you had an obligation and wanted to get out, no problem. In fact, you were helping them solve their problem.”

So Bush stopped flying. From May 1972 to May 1973, he earned just 56 points — not much, but enough to meet his requirement.

Then, in 1973, as Bush made plans to leave the Guard and go to Harvard Business School, he again started showing up frequently.

In June and July of 1973, he accumulated 56 points, enough to meet the minimum requirement for the 1973-1974 year.

Then, at his request, he was given permission to go. Bush received an honorable discharge after serving five years, four months and five days of his original six-year commitment. By that time, however, he had accumulated enough points in each year to cover six years of service.

During his service, Bush received high marks as a pilot.

A 1970 evaluation said Bush “clearly stands out as a top notch fighter interceptor pilot” and was “a natural leader whom his contemporaries look to for leadership.”

A 1971 evaluation called Bush “an exceptionally fine young officer and pilot” who “continually flies intercept missions with the unit to increase his proficiency even further.” And a 1972 evaluation called Bush “an exceptional fighter interceptor pilot and officer.”

Now, it is only natural that news reports questioning Bush’s service — in The Boston Globe and The New York Times, on CBS and in other outlets — would come out now. Democrats are spitting mad over attacks on John Kerry’s record by the group Swift Boat Veterans for Truth.

And, as it is with Kerry, it’s reasonable to look at a candidate’s entire record, including his military service — or lack of it. Voters are perfectly able to decide whether it’s important or not in November.

The Kerry camp blames Bush for the Swift boat veterans’ attack, but anyone who has spent much time talking to the Swifties gets the sense that they are doing it entirely for their own reasons.

And it should be noted in passing that Kerry has personally questioned Bush’s service, while Bush has not personally questioned Kerry’s.

In April — before the Swift boat veterans had said a word — Kerry said Bush “has yet to explain to America whether or not, and tell the truth, about whether he showed up for duty.” Earlier, Kerry said, “Just because you get an honorable discharge does not, in fact, answer that question.”

Now, after the Swift boat episode, the spotlight has returned to Bush.

That’s fine. We should know as much as we can.

And perhaps someday Kerry will release more of his military records as well.

Byron York is a White House correspondent for National Review.