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HODGES SAID HE WAS MISLED BY CBS
Noted Now - ABC News The Note ^ | 09/11/04 | ABC News The Note

Posted on 09/10/2004 7:42:49 PM PDT by Ed Zoekuiper

Retired Maj. General Hodges, Killian's supervisor at the Grd, tells ABC News that he feels CBS misled him about the documents they uncovered. According to Hodges, CBS told him the documents were "handwritten" and after CBS read him excerpts he said, "well if he wrote them that's what he felt."

(Excerpt) Read more at abcnews.go.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 60minutes; cbsnews; deceit; hoax; hodges; killian; lurchrathered; mediabias; morelies; napalminthemorning; ratherbiased; rathergate; selectricgate; tang
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To: CA Conservative
This scenario might make sense if they hadn't made the mistake of adding a signature to the memos.

The signatures might be digitally scanned images from the original "hand written" memos, which they transferred to the "typed" replicas.

It would explain why they relied on a guy who is a signature expert, not a "document" expert, and why they only showed him examining the signatures and proclaiming them legit.

321 posted on 09/10/2004 8:53:36 PM PDT by longshadow
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To: longshadow
They posted the documents to their website, as NEWS.

I think you give Dan Rather and CBS news WAY to much credit. They are not smart. They are elitists though.

322 posted on 09/10/2004 8:54:06 PM PDT by A Citizen Reporter
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To: hole_n_one

FSU lost again? Huh.


323 posted on 09/10/2004 8:54:18 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: litany_of_lies

Another thing MSM doesn't get yet is that the blogo/freeposphere doesn't respect their established news cycle. They think they can safely leave on a Friday night for a quiet weekend. They aren't able to defend themselves as the story explodes ALL NIGHT LONG. When they arrive back at the office on Monday, the world will be a different place. Even if they try to regroup tomorrow, they will already be HOURS behind the curve.


324 posted on 09/10/2004 8:54:27 PM PDT by LikeLight (__________________________)
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To: timestax
Remember the '90's and every time we thought we had Clinton . . .

we just . . .

didn't?

He just . . .

didn't

ever

admit

anything.

It felt like a Kafka novel.

Because I wouldn't have had the hubris to just keep lying

and I couldn't understand how he did.

and all I could think about was those SOB's laughing in some Georgetown bar.

325 posted on 09/10/2004 8:54:58 PM PDT by 1stMarylandRegiment
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To: litany_of_lies
The "originals were handwritten" dog can't possibly hunt if they're trying to defend the technical aspects of the typed ones.

Misdirection.

326 posted on 09/10/2004 8:55:20 PM PDT by longshadow
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To: All

Dan ... Dan .... Dan .... NONE OF US are smarter than ALL OF US. Those days are long gone.

Welcome to Cyberspace.


327 posted on 09/10/2004 8:55:25 PM PDT by OkiMusashi (Beware the fury of a patient man. --- John Dryden)
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To: litany_of_lies

Found the same POB zip as you....

next stop is to check Texas Secretary of State to see if used by a business in a corporate filing, or dba ---.


328 posted on 09/10/2004 8:55:55 PM PDT by PokeyJoe (The plural for RAT is RATS, not RATICS)
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To: longshadow
Notice the wording of Rather's remarks tonite: "people are focussing on the documents instead of what they say..." I smell a sneaky trick about to be sprung, and this explains why Rather isn't backing down. They are going to proclaim the originals WERE handwritten, and that all this internet frenzy about "forgeries" is "much ado about nothing".....

I'm cynical too because I can't yet come to grips with Rather stooping to what amounts to nothing but a propaganda piece with the sole purpose of swaying a historical election. But don't you think he would have said he had the original handwritten documents today when he was feeling so much heat? He will have lost too much credibility to produce handwritten notes now, they presented the documents as copies of the originals.

329 posted on 09/10/2004 8:56:35 PM PDT by Dolphy (Support swiftvets.com)
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To: longshadow

You still haven't explained how Killian's signature on the typed memo fits into your (whacky) scenario.


330 posted on 09/10/2004 8:57:27 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: I'm ALL Right!
Well, that would depend upon what the definition of interpret is. Perhaps he thinks interpret=poetic license
331 posted on 09/10/2004 8:57:27 PM PDT by Atchafalaya
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To: longshadow

Oh, right. They're going to rest their case on documents which they can't produce, not on official letterhead, no signature, allegedly written by a man who's been dead for 20 years, about events which occured more than 30 years ago, with no corroborating witness?

I don't think so.


332 posted on 09/10/2004 8:57:40 PM PDT by CobaltBlue
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To: Carolinamom

It is great! Like you, I don't want to miss anything -- this place is really addictive!


333 posted on 09/10/2004 8:57:52 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Oklahoma is Reagan Country and now Bush Country -- Kerry is DOOMED!)
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To: oceanagirl
Your post on a thread from yesterday:

Still, I'd feel better if Gen. Hodges would just come out and deny the Post story. Maybe he'll do that tomorrow.

My response:

I agree that would be helpful, but I don't think it's going to happen. CBS was stupid to run the story, but I don't think they're stupid enough to fabricate quotes from their authenticity "trump card".

Wow - do you have a crystal ball or what?! And I was completely wrong - CBS is way more stupid than I thought they could be! I've learned my lesson.

334 posted on 09/10/2004 8:59:12 PM PDT by vrwc1
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To: 1stMarylandRegiment

yep...I do remember all the stonewalling, and fibbing!


335 posted on 09/10/2004 8:59:22 PM PDT by timestax
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To: altura
I never thought I'd say this, but:

GO, ABC, GO!

336 posted on 09/10/2004 8:59:23 PM PDT by Reverend Bob (I've got your frequency right here...)
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To: hole_n_one
Why did Rather emphasize the superscript comparison between a Killian memo and another doc produced in the early 70's tonight when attempting to support his claim of authenticity if he's going to produced handwritten docs later?

Classic misdirection, just as a magician would use to fool the crowd.

Everybody gets wound up about fonts, proportional spacing, superscripts, etc., and then Rather yanks the rug out from under us, and says, "yeah, well that doesn't matter, because the ORIGINALS were handwritten, those things you are calling forgeries were just WP versions of the originals, to make it easier to read them.... thus all the forgery claims are now moot, and the original handwritten documents prove Bush lied..."

337 posted on 09/10/2004 8:59:41 PM PDT by longshadow
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To: Dolphy

Rather said the docs he had were copies... the whole point of what he broadcast tonight was to bona fide signed typewritten memos.


338 posted on 09/10/2004 9:00:23 PM PDT by DaveMSmith (CEO, VRWC: When you think treason, don't think Benedict Arnold - think JOHN FORGED KERRY!)
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To: PhiKapMom

Freepaholism is real. It's REAL, I tell you!


339 posted on 09/10/2004 9:00:26 PM PDT by I'm ALL Right! (Remembering 9-11)
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To: aft_lizard

"Where is a 527 of ours? We need one to hit hard and blame the democrats for this, make some political capital."

Why can't FR become a 527?
We could make a commercial outlining this whole story.
Not for the presidential race, but to point out the CBS propaganda--- to undermine their credibliity and get people not to trust the MSM. Maybe produce a series of ads--- Point out Jayson Blair, Jack Kelley and other examples of media bias. Show the Iraq war photo that the LA times manipulated. We could all pitch in money like we did the swifties.....maybe someone could call into Rush or Hannity and plug us. Wishful thinking? Perhaps....but it could be done.


340 posted on 09/10/2004 9:00:49 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite ( An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill)
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