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HODGES SAID HE WAS MISLED BY CBS
Noted Now - ABC News The Note ^ | 09/11/04 | ABC News The Note

Posted on 09/10/2004 7:42:49 PM PDT by Ed Zoekuiper

Retired Maj. General Hodges, Killian's supervisor at the Grd, tells ABC News that he feels CBS misled him about the documents they uncovered. According to Hodges, CBS told him the documents were "handwritten" and after CBS read him excerpts he said, "well if he wrote them that's what he felt."

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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 60minutes; cbsnews; deceit; hoax; hodges; killian; lurchrathered; mediabias; morelies; napalminthemorning; ratherbiased; rathergate; selectricgate; tang
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To: FlashBack
All ya need is a link to a picture of a siren, like this:

Maybe that's not the siren you had in mind. Google about, you'll find one.

301 posted on 09/10/2004 8:47:07 PM PDT by FredZarguna (TickTickTickTickTickTickTickTickTickTickTickTick...Time's Running out for Dan)
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To: savedbygrace

"ABC is zoned in on this thing, like a laser. I'm not saying we need to relax our grip, but I think ABC is going to bring down Rather from this point."

For once, the competitive juices are flowing in the media ... cool!

... of course, the DNC's mole at ABC, George Step-all-over-us, claims it was Rove plant, or so says his unbiased sources Joe Lockhart... I kid you not, the media is going to have to get spanked somehow on this fraud. the only question is ... WHO.


302 posted on 09/10/2004 8:47:10 PM PDT by WOSG (George W Bush / Dick Cheney - Right for our Times!)
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To: CA Conservative
I think this is the right General Hodges:

Major General Bobby W. Hodges enlisted in the U.S. Air Force in June 1953.  After primary, basic and advanced pilot training, he spent two and a half-years at Misawa Air Base, Japan, with the 4th Fighter Interceptor Squadron.  While stationed at Misawa, he was a member of the 4th Fighter Squadron’s Rocket Team flying F-86D’s.  In Far East Air Force competition, the team placed second and General Hodges tied for first place in the individual category.

In September 1957, General Hodges became an air technician with the 147th Fighter Interceptor Group stationed at Ellington AFB in Houston, Texas.  He served in a variety of command and staff positions and in January 1968, he was named Deputy Commander for Operations and Base Operations Supervisor.

In July 1968, General Hodges began a 90-day voluntary tour of duty in Southeast Asia.  He participated in the “Palace Alert” program of the Air Force, a program using Air National Guard pilots flying F-102 interceptor aircraft in Southeast Asia.  During his tour of duty, General Hodges flew 51 combat missions out of South Vietnam and Northern Thailand for a total of 101 combat flying hours.

In May 1969, he assumed command of the 147th Fighter Interceptor Group and under his command the unit carried out its air defense mission of the upper Texas Gulf Coast in an exceptional manner.  He also assumed command of Ellington AFB as an additional duty when the Air Force closed out its host base responsibility in March 1975.  He continued in this dual role until his reassignment as commander of the 136th Air Refueling Wing, Texas Air National Guard, Hensley Field.

Under General Hodges command, the 136th Air Refueling Wing accomplished two significant deployments to the European Theater.  During those deployments, General Hodges was cited for outstanding leadership as the wing accomplished 356 tactical airlift employment sorties, carrying 701.6 tons of cargo, 2,056 passengers and dropped 1,374 paratroopers…with no safety deviations.

303 posted on 09/10/2004 8:47:23 PM PDT by cookcounty (Army Vet, Army Dad)
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To: Conservababe

I can't answer the formal-informal mail issue, but I can tell you that it was a valid address and zip at the time, and that it appears on docs that are agreed to be genuine from the period.


304 posted on 09/10/2004 8:47:35 PM PDT by litany_of_lies
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To: MPJackal
So let me get this straight. Hodges gave an interview based on someone else observation, not his own actual eyewitness account.

But all Hodges testified to was Killian's character. 'If Killian wrote them, it's what he believed'

305 posted on 09/10/2004 8:47:45 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy ("Despise not the jester. Often he is the only one speaking the truth")
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To: CA Conservative
If they now claim all they had were handwritten notes, they also admit that they forged the signatures on the memos. It is is still forgery either way, and harder to justify or explain under this scenario.

If they were handwritten why the header information on the type written memo's in question? The easy answer is they weren't handwritten.

306 posted on 09/10/2004 8:47:47 PM PDT by Terp (Retired living in Philippines were the Mountains meet the Sea in the Land of Smiles)
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To: Republic

Loved your Rant because its so very true.


307 posted on 09/10/2004 8:48:07 PM PDT by suzyq5558 (Sayyyyyy....isn't disingenuous dissembler just a fancy way of saying your a LIAR???)
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To: CA Conservative

They cant -- or shouldnt be able to claim the documents are handwritten -- else why didnt they just produce the "handwritten" documents to begin with?


308 posted on 09/10/2004 8:48:52 PM PDT by onyx eyes
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To: Republic
I DISPISE OUR MAINSTREAM PRESS, NOT BECAUSE THEY ARE DEMOCRATS, BUT BECAUSE THEY DO NOT LEAVE THEIR POLITICAL BELIEFS AT HOME WHEN THEY GO TO WORK.

Kind of like most college professors.

309 posted on 09/10/2004 8:49:06 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: GOPcapitalist
The alleged memo font and the Times New Roman example don't look exactly the same to me.

I see several variations in the forms of the letters.
Is this due to repeated coping?

310 posted on 09/10/2004 8:49:15 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: timestax

***All you posters predicting DOOM, and GLOOM for CBS, and or Rather, remind me of all the dire consequences predicted for Bildo Clintoon, and Hitlery, and lyinAlGore,and Sid Vicious Blumenthall,,Sandy Burgler,Janet Reo,and...etc.etc.

The CBS fraud is a HUGE HOLE in the dam that has kept the lefties going since the 60s. 'They' will all go down together ... look out when the DAM really breaks!!!! It's beginning to look like Swiss Cheese right now.


311 posted on 09/10/2004 8:49:28 PM PDT by BlueOx
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To: airborne
But they've been passing these off as copies of the originals, and defending the typed documents as legitimate circa 1970's.

In tonite's CBS broadcast, they specifically stated they only had copies, not originals. They buried it, but they said it.

I think it's all misdirection, so that everyone gets focussed on the document fonts, proportional spacing, superscripts, etc. Then they will come back and say: "Guess what? I doesn't matter, because the originals were handwritten (we just didn't mention it because it wasn't relevant); the typed stuff was just a WP reproduction, with the signatures scanned and digitally added, to make it easier to read.... so the forgery claim has now been refuted, and therefore the documents are legitimate, and prove Bush lied...."

Think about it; this has been way too easy so far.... there's a trap in here somewhere.

312 posted on 09/10/2004 8:50:10 PM PDT by longshadow
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To: Republic

And Mr Cronkite has said a couple of days ago that he doesn't understand why the government does not outlaw these internet news sites that posts such untruths.

He still lives, as most of MSM does, of the notion that only news filtered through them is the truth.


313 posted on 09/10/2004 8:50:16 PM PDT by Conservababe (Kerry, you said to "bring it on". The vets did. And now you threaten to sue them. Wimp!)
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To: azcap

Houston Post Office should have a record of P.O. Box 34567 in Houston TX.

Probably the old clerk is retired by now, would probably take some digging.


314 posted on 09/10/2004 8:50:22 PM PDT by CobaltBlue
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To: tioga

You know, I NEVER watch Rather anymore, but did check it out tonight to see what he said.

He sounded like his voice was about gone or something....I figured it was from pleading his case all day. LOL


315 posted on 09/10/2004 8:50:38 PM PDT by Shortstop7
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To: suzyq5558

Right now Baghdad Bob would increase their credibility.


316 posted on 09/10/2004 8:50:42 PM PDT by JackelopeBreeder (Proud to be a mean-spirited and divisive loco gringo armed vigilante terrorist cucaracha!)
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To: longshadow

Even if everything in the memos were true, I still don't see anything that would be fatal or even damaging to Bush. Nothing makes him a liar and there isn't anything that can't be explained. Certainly, it gave the Lib's something to rant about, but that's about it.


317 posted on 09/10/2004 8:51:52 PM PDT by Gator113
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To: longshadow

Ok just to go along. Let's assume there is a trap. What is he hoping to catch in that trap?


318 posted on 09/10/2004 8:52:03 PM PDT by Texasforever (Kerry's new slogan "IT'S NOT THE STUPID CANDIDATE SO STOP SAYING THAT")
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To: JackelopeBreeder

LOL I wouldnt mind seeing ole Bagdad Bob in liar Dans chair! I'd believe him over Dan also.


319 posted on 09/10/2004 8:52:25 PM PDT by suzyq5558 (Sayyyyyy....isn't disingenuous dissembler just a fancy way of saying your a LIAR???)
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FINAL
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#5 Miami 16

320 posted on 09/10/2004 8:52:43 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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