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Escaping the Kill Zone (New dirty work at the crossroads by the DNC, CBS et al)
The Belmont Club ^ | September 10, 2004 | TC Wretchard

Posted on 09/10/2004 7:18:05 PM PDT by quidnunc

Dan Rather's defense (courtesy of Glenn Reynolds) of his 60 Minutes accusations against the Bush National Guard record, coupled with this CBS Press Release (hat tip: Roger Simon) may indicate the direction in which story is developing. When caught in an ambush the first two rules are to exit the kill zone and lay down a curtain of return fire so you can make your getaway. Both the Rather interview and the CBS Press Release suggest that the network is trying to move the controversy onto broader grounds. They will refocus the question onto George Bush's National Guard record and will support it with evidence — interviews, collateral research etc — that their opponents have had little access to — and therefore be unable to criticize. In particular, Dan Rather listed out four questions which are probably going to be the strongpoints of the new redoubt: the most important are whether GWB disobeyed a direct order, whether he performed to standard, whether he made his physical.

By leaving the kill zone of fonts, kerning and proportional spacing and rallying on their new position CBS achieves two things. The near effective fire raining down on them will be transformed into far ineffective fire, simply because its Internet critics will need a whole 12 hours to start raising new questions about the additional CBS allegations. By covering their repositioning with intensified attacks on GWB they will with any luck, restart a stalled story and reclaim the offensive.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 60minutes; belmontclub; killian
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To: Howlin; P-Marlowe; AmericanInTokyo

ping to #38


41 posted on 09/10/2004 9:32:08 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Proudly Supporting BUSH/CHENEY 2004!)
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To: Torie
As a point of interest, would the Killian family have any basis for a damage suit?

Their father/husband has been intimately involved in what amounts to a "national scandal" (CBS certainly claims so).

Yet, the family has no confidence in the legitimacy of the documents nor the validity of their contents. The deceased is being used by another party, under what can only be called suspicious circumstances.

I'm thinking that discovery would yield some very interesting findings.

And I'm thinking the family should be investigating their options in this regard.

42 posted on 09/10/2004 9:45:37 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: quidnunc

As serious as lying about Christmas in Cambodia? Hmmmm...


43 posted on 09/10/2004 9:48:12 PM PDT by jmstein7 (A Judge not bound by the original meaning of the Constitution interprets nothing but his own mind.)
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To: Thebaddog

"My hunch is that there a lot of letters and emails sent to CBS and their advertisers"

That's how we win. Rather and CBS don't care what you think, but their sponsors do!!! CBS can try to change the subject all they want, but they cannot escape the realities of the market. If faced with significant economic damage vs. Dan Rather resigning, what do you think the stockholders will do? If Rather is forced to step down - CBS loses. Game, set, and match. Write the 60-minutes sponsors!


44 posted on 09/10/2004 9:48:24 PM PDT by Owl558 (Pardon my spelling)
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To: okie01
would the Killian family have any basis for a damage suit?

No. There is no standing for descendents to sue for the defaming of a dead ancestor. Indeed, the claim of defamation is up close and personal. Wrongful death claims for example involves financial hurt and loss of consortium.

45 posted on 09/10/2004 9:55:03 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Torie

Thanks for the response.


46 posted on 09/10/2004 10:00:22 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Thebaddog
Is the Guard tour really six years? Yep...unless you get an early out, whch were extremely common in the Vietnam drawback period 1971-1975. Gore got an early out, Bush got an early out, I myself got an early out, and.......John Kerry got an early out (unless he was AWOL ---his documents aren't really clear about this..
47 posted on 09/10/2004 10:00:56 PM PDT by cookcounty (Army Vet, Army Dad)
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To: datura
Why not simply turn the questions around on CBS? As in "WHERE IS 1% OF THIS LEVEL OF SCRUTINY FOR KERRY'S MILITARY RECORDS?? WHERE ARE KERRY'S MEDICAL RECORDS?? TAX RECORDS?? DIVORCE RECORDS?? TERESA'S TAX FORMS??"

Until they can answer those questions, I wouldn't say a single damn word other than showing what biased frauds they are.

GREAT IDEA!

Would love for someone to ask dan rather why he thinks President Bush has signed a release of his records, all of them, and KERRY will NOT RELEASE some 180 pages or so of his MILITARY RECORDS?

Now THERE is a story!

Oooops....forgot...dan has an agenda!

But we can still send these questions to the CEO of CBS.

48 posted on 09/10/2004 10:03:53 PM PDT by Republic (Terri Schiavo,saved by TERRI's LAW after 7 days of starvation, fights ACLU-Felos to keep law intact)
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To: Torie; okie01

interesting article on defaming the dead:

http://writ.news.findlaw.com/dean/20040312.html


49 posted on 09/10/2004 10:04:18 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: AmericanInTokyo

We need to coordinate our efforts in FOCUS. I've been thinking that we might accomplish more by focusing on one sponsor of Dan R. at a time until they drop him. Start a letter, call campaign directed at a sponsor until they surrender.


50 posted on 09/10/2004 10:06:15 PM PDT by WVNan
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To: Rokke
But for most of America, the horse is so dead there is nothing left to kick.

Absolutely right. Allegations about what George W. Bush and Dick Cheney did in the 60s and 70s might have had an effect in the 2000 election, but this time they have been President and Vice-President for the past four years. It's as if the Democrats have some sort of learning disability in this area.

51 posted on 09/10/2004 10:09:34 PM PDT by TheMole
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To: quidnunc

The trotting out witnesses they've interviewed angle can't work either because Killian's son has revealed that they interviewed his mother, himself, and others who worked in their father's unit (Killian's son stated he provided many names to CBS), but they wouldn't air anybody they deemed to be a Bush supporter.

The former CBS exec on O'Reilly's show (with Tony Snow tonight) actually stated as a matter of fact that 60 Minutes would routinely ignore anybody they deemed a Bush supporter. The arrogance was stunning, and I've seen plenty this election cycle.

All this after they trotted big time Kerry supporter Barnes out, who quickly was discredited by his own daughter.

The more they try to pressure Bush to answer questions raised by forged documents, the more they shoot themselves and Kerry in the foot.

Bernie Goldberg will be selling many more books, and a sequel to Bias and Arrogance should be in the works.


52 posted on 09/10/2004 10:11:38 PM PDT by Kryptonite
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To: rolling_stone

Just what we need, a new tort for tort lawyers to mine. :(


53 posted on 09/10/2004 10:15:15 PM PDT by Torie
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To: quidnunc
The new DNC story line is that the very fact that it was CBS which first started talking about this automatically means the charges are serious.

The DNC and their spokespeople have been laughed at all day today. They are stuck on talking points that are no longer "operative".

Linda Vester's audience laughed at Micheal Meehan today when Linda asked about Teresa "idiot" comment. Meehan launched into the talking points and when the audience started laughing he was SHOCKED! The look on his face was absolutely priceless.

Tony Snow's interview with some Dim girl, don't know her name, was more of the same. She made a fool of herself.

Then, Robert Reich, who spouted the same talking points, was slammed by Hannity and Bob Bennett.

The DNC and CBS have been caught completely off guard. They have their story and are sticking to it but it ain't workin!

54 posted on 09/10/2004 10:26:43 PM PDT by hobson
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To: Howlin

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55 posted on 09/10/2004 10:34:08 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: AmericanInTokyo

bttt


56 posted on 09/10/2004 10:38:22 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: quidnunc


LBT

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57 posted on 09/11/2004 1:20:41 AM PDT by LiberalBassTurds (Al Qaeda needs to know we are fluent in the "dialogue of bullets.")
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To: quidnunc
It shouldn't be difficult for Bush supporters to prove that the ANG memos are forgeries. It's a fact that General Staudt was referred to in the memos as an active officer when he actually retired in the year before the memos were supposedly written. This is a slam-dunk case against the credibility of CBS and these "documents." This is the key fact that Bush supporters need to keep pounding on, because unlike some of the font issues it's indisputable.

The MSM is now in an Orwellian twilight zone where truth and honesty don't matter and their only goals are the manipulation of information to further their poltical agenda. I'm absolutely stunned by their behavior. Where's Walter Cronkite when we need him to tell his old network to clean up their act?

58 posted on 09/11/2004 3:11:41 AM PDT by carl in alaska (Suddenly the raven on Scalia's shoulder stirred and spoke. Quoth the raven..."NeverGore")
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To: quidnunc
"The President served honorably and received an honorable discharge. We are not interested in charges from discredited sources. We'd RATHER discuss the future.
59 posted on 09/11/2004 4:00:15 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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To: Thebaddog
"My hunch is that there a lot of letters and emails sent to CBS and their advertisers already expressing extreme contempt for the story."

And mine was one of them. I went to cbsnews.com and followed the "contact us" link at the bottom of the page. I wrote my letter in the complaint form and blasted CBS, Dan Rather, CBS affiliates and CBS sponsors. I told them I would make it a point to boycott their sponsors. I told them they failed miserably in their responsiblity for fair and responsible journalism.

What surprises me is they fail to recognize that these are the very reasons cable news has taken over in the ratings and the big 3 are dying. The reality is, CBS sucks. And the majority of Americans know it. Long live fox news.

60 posted on 09/11/2004 4:16:25 AM PDT by dokmad
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