Posted on 09/10/2004 7:18:05 PM PDT by quidnunc
On Hannity and Combes tonight Robert Reich was taking the position that it was incumbent upon Bush to address these very serious charges which have been unearthed by the mainstream news organizations.
It appears to me that the fact that the memos could be shown to probably though not conclusively be proven to be forgeries was of peripheral importance.
What was really important was for CBS to level the charges in the first in order to get them on the table.
In other words any allegation, no matter how ridiculous it may be on its face, is to be considered credible if the person or organization making it is considered to be credible.
It's the genetic fallact turned inside out.
Capt. Rather On Bridge!
'Rats Deserting Ship!
There are no "serious charges". Not one. And that gets back to my original point when the 60 Minutes story first aired. There is nothing to their story. There are no charges. If there were, you can be damn sure we would have seen the evidence already. The White House is doing exactly the right thing by saying over and over again that "President Bush served honorably, and received an honorable discharge." End of story.
I don't think so. Forgery is something people "get". It's simple, interesting, and morally unambiguous. I don't think Danny Boy will be able to redirect this one.
Them: These are serious allegations.
Us: Based on what? These forgeies?
We continue to play that one string fiddle until they fold. I'm for hammering the bastards on this one.
My hunch is that there a lot of letters and emails sent to CBS and their advertisers already expressing extreme contempt for the story. Business heads at the network will work quickly to kill the whole subject on that basis. Boomerang is at home in their forehead. Don't do it again.
A few indictments would cure this amoral strategy very durn quick.
Short form of the above: CBS is not going to answer the charges. They're going to change the subject by levelling new accusations.
I'm for hammering them with Grand Jury subpoenas.
You're missing the whole point.
The new DNC story line is that the very fact that it was CBS which first started talking about this automatically means the charges are serious.
They can impress many millions of people in a moment. We can't. Belmont's analysis has a nasty ring of truth.
This from the man who 'saw' the Zapruder film? Sorry.
It is also possible to pull a genetic fallacy back by retracing back to the red herring in the first place and questioning the fonts, etc.
Very good point. Forgery is a much easier story line to follow.
Pres. Bush should not address false charges based on forgeries.
If pressed, he should simply say, "I don't address forgeries and fabrications."
"Reich: 'Pres. Bush did you refuse to report as ordered for your flight physical?'"
Ans: "I don't adress forgeries and fabrications."
Until CBS produces the ORIGINAL DOCUMENTS, there will ALWAYS be sufficient fact to prove forgery & fabrication to the satisfaction of fair minds. Anyone can do anything with photocopiers, scanners, photoshop, powerpoint, and Word.
If these doc's are forgeries and fake why in the world would the President even address the issue??? there isnt anything to answer for .THEY ARE FORGERIES!!!
No. I understand the point. But the reality is, there isn't enough "there" there to make a story with any influence. The overwhelming attitude amongst the average Americans you talk to is "ENOUGH ALREADY". They just don't care about Kerry in Vietnam or Bush in the Guard. I do. You do. But for most of America, the horse is so dead there is nothing left to kick. In the meantime, the White House says nothing more than "President Bush served honorably and received an honorable discharge". Which he did. Now matter how many documents Rather creates on his IBM PC.
Works for me.
They can't kill the story now. It's out there! Now the question is who and why. The sharks aren't going to stop.
Doesn't that sound like Tom Harkin????
And now we have this from CBS.
--Did Lieutenant Bush refuse a direct order from his commanding officer?
--Was Lieutenant. Bush suspended for failure to perform up to standards?
--Did Lieutenant Bush ever take a physical he was required and ordered to take? If not, why not?
--And did Lieutenant Bush, in fact, complete his commitment to the Guard?
But wait, we already read that here:
Yes, we did:
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