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1 posted on 09/10/2004 4:08:34 PM PDT by Mike Fieschko
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To: Mike Fieschko

Dan Rather: "I did not have sex with that word processor..."


2 posted on 09/10/2004 4:11:54 PM PDT by LRS
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To: Mike Fieschko

after the section "...AND ARE FAR REMOVED FROM THE DOCUMENTS CBS STARTED WITH." I thought he said something like "which were copies themselves" or something like that.


3 posted on 09/10/2004 4:12:56 PM PDT by rit
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To: Mike Fieschko

The vile scumbag DARED to complain that some of those calling him out are republicans??? When they got this garbage from the Kerry campaign??? When Barnes is a Vice Director of the Kerry Campaign??


4 posted on 09/10/2004 4:14:04 PM PDT by Williams
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Okay. Seems that Dan Rather has really stirred stuff up quite a bit. Tonight, I watched his BS defense of his "60 Minutes" BS story Wednesday night. I NEVER change my TV News from FOX News with RARE exception. Today was one. Dan Rather is a real piece of work, I tell ya.

Somehow, I think old Gunga Dan has really got folks bent out of shape. I'll just say that "I'm ashamed that Dan Rather is from Texas!!!!!!"


6 posted on 09/10/2004 4:16:02 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Mike Fieschko
BEEN PHOTOCOPIED, FAXED, SCANNED AND DOWNLOADED.... AND ARE FAR REMOVED FROM THE DOCUMENTS CBS STARTED WITH.

Yes folks, all that scanning and downloading has centered and spaced the words on the document perfectly.

8 posted on 09/10/2004 4:18:46 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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BEEN PHOTOCOPIED, FAXED, SCANNED AND DOWNLOADED.... AND ARE FAR REMOVED FROM THE DOCUMENTS CBS STARTED WITH. >>>

What a stupid statement, stupid. So CBS you are saying that the copies you have placed for download are 3-4 or 5 times removed from the original? And therefore means there degradation calls into question the fact that they are forged or not? OMG that is so stupid. WHy would you place the 5th genetation copy for download when you could place the first generation up? And why wouldnt CBS have the Budget to have a high quality replication available for download?


9 posted on 09/10/2004 4:19:12 PM PDT by aft_lizard (I actually voted for John Kerry before I voted against him)
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To: Mike Fieschko

"A KEY THAT AUTOMATICALLY TYPES A RAISED "TH". CRITICS CLAIM TYPEWRITERS DIDN'T HAVE THAT ABILITY IN THE 70S.

BUT SOME MODELS DID.... "

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Did they also not merely RAISE the "th" but also make the "th" a much smaller font, in this case from 12-pitch to 8-pitch?

AND WHY WASN'T THE "TH" ALSO RAISED AT THE TOP OF THE DOCUMENT IN THE SQUADRON LETTERHEAD? Did they use a DIFFERENT typewriter for the top of the letterhead? (Yes, they could have had it sent out to a stationer, but a stationer would have given them a font a little fancier -- and least different -- from the font of their typewriters, which turns out to be the exact same font by appearances.


11 posted on 09/10/2004 4:20:26 PM PDT by Zhangliqun (Liberals love America the way teenagers love an unlocked liquor cabinet...)
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To: Mike Fieschko
Well there you have it the proponderance of evidence. By gosh I'll bet Dan Rather can sleep soundly tonight, knowing he has done his journalistic best.

I am sure that Dr. Joseph Goebbels would be proud of Dan and what he has accomplished this week. After all Dr. Goebbels was one of the great proponents of the "big lie" theory of propaganda dn Dan Rather sure has purpetrated a whopper on the public with no desire to change his story even if the source documents are obvious fakes.

12 posted on 09/10/2004 4:22:34 PM PDT by Robert357
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To: Mike Fieschko

Right out of the Kerry defaming the military playbook. They get some ex vet to say the National Guard was such a corrupt culture that these allegations are consistent with --- whatever they want to make up. That is just an incredible lame tactic!


13 posted on 09/10/2004 4:26:23 PM PDT by Williams
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To: Mike Fieschko
The questions raised by our report include:

— Did a wealthy Texas oilman-friend of the Bush family use his influence with the speaker of the Texas House of Representatives .. to get George W. Bush a coveted slot in the National Guard .. keeping him out of the draft and any probable service IN Vietnam?
— Did Lieutenant Bush refuse a direct order from his commanding officer?
— Was Lieutenant. Bush suspended for failure to perform up to standards?
— Did Lieutenant Bush ever take a physical he was required and ordered to take? If not, why not?
— And did Lieutenant Bush, in fact, complete his commitment to the Guard?


Ummm, Dan, those aren't the questions that your report has raised...
15 posted on 09/10/2004 4:49:16 PM PDT by counterpunch (The CouNTeRPuNcH Collection - www.counterpunch.us)
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To: Mike Fieschko

Cool-a-RENO!!! Now, I'm a partisan operative. Thanks, for the new job, Dan!

Without getting into the technicalities of fonts, superscripting and kerning, what blew the "authenticity" of the documents for me were two specific ones: the one titled "CYA" and the one titled "Discussion with Lt. Bush". In neither case, did the content or subject matter of these two memos strike me as being even remotely plausible. In the political atmosphere of the military, particularly among senior officers, no one in their right mind would have a memo laying around titled "CYA".
In particular, a senior officer desiring to remain in the military would NEVER turn such a document over to be typed by a subordinate on unit letterhead. Regardless of where it ends up, in Bush's service jacket or in Col. Killian's personal files, from the time it leaves his hand until the formally typed memo is handed back, ANYTHING can happen to that memo. That's not a scenario a prudent senior officer would ever countenance in his/her right mind.

The second memo, titled "Discussion with Lt. Bush" is strictly infantile. Any senior officer who documents the difficulty of having to continually "sugar-coat" a junior officer's evaluations is openly admitting that he/she is unfit for command. If this is the biggest problem this Col. has in an organization that may have to go to war and he may have to send pilots on one-way missions, if sugar-coating evaluations is a big issue, sending pilots on missions will be an impossible task. Again, this would NEVER be something that would be memorialized in writing, in a formal memo, typed by a clerk on unit letterhead.

These issues about these two memos strike me as being so outlandish as to be nothing other than the figment of someone's fertile imagination; trying to make leftist allegations fit into these memos to try and make Bush look bad.

As FReepers have noted many times, Bush didn't run for President based on his NG record and Bush has authorized the complete release of all his military records. Kerry, however, is a completely different story and, rather than re-hash the laundry list on this, I'll leave it at that.


16 posted on 09/10/2004 4:51:25 PM PDT by DustyMoment (Repeal CFR NOW!!)
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To: Mike Fieschko

You know, Moore was probably on defending the documents because he's the one that faked them.

It is so weird that they would have a fake documentary maker to vouch for fake documents. I mean, surreal.

Someone's passing around the brown acid from Woodstock.


19 posted on 09/10/2004 6:14:54 PM PDT by Duke Nukum ([T]he only true mystery is that our very lives are governed by dead people.)
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To: Mike Fieschko
They are simply showing us and the rest of the world that CBS News is run by a bunch of idiots.
20 posted on 09/10/2004 6:19:33 PM PDT by b4its2late (John John Kerry Edwards change positions more often than a Nevada prostitute!!!)
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To: Mike Fieschko; LRS
$10,500 IF YOU CAN PROVE RATHER'S DOCS WERE REAL

* * * * *

BUT YOU CAN'T - CBS U-R-RATHER-BUSTED!!

25 posted on 09/11/2004 7:11:33 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (Jihad - coming to a school near you - 53 days until November 2nd - 9/11 is this Saturday.)
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