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To: mabelkitty

Someone on here posted a link to official documents from Pres Bush's jacket and look what I found -- I knew the heading for the Wing was wrong and this proves it:

Here is the address on an official letter:

DEPARTMENT OF THE AIR FORCE
HEADQUARTERS 147TH FIGHTER WING (TANG)
ELLINGTON AIR FORCE BASE, TEXAS 77030

vs the forgery

11th Fighter Intercept Squadron
P. O. Box 34567
Houston, Texas 77034

Note the second one did not contain (TANG) following and there is not post office box number only the name of the AFB in the official document. I have talked to numerous people I know from that time frame and not one remembers a post office box being used stateside and all you ever put in the address was the unit and the AFB with state and zip. If you wanted it to go to a specific office, you could put the name of the unit/CC or whatever office symbol they had. No street addresses were necessary in the 70's. That is a recent occurance in the Air Force.


401 posted on 09/10/2004 10:27:17 AM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Oklahoma is Reagan Country and now Bush Country -- Kerry is DOOMED!)
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To: PhiKapMom

I found this late last night. Some things have been clarified, but a lot of it still isn't: Note #19
1-- proportional spacing not generally available
2 -- superscripts not generally available
3 - small "th" single element not generally available
4 - Smart quotes. Curved apostrophes and quotation marks were not available
5-The blurriness of the copy indicates it was recopied dozens of times, tactic of forgers
6--Signature block. Typical authentic military signature block has name, then rank, then on the next line the person's position. This just has rank beneath the name.
7--Margins. These look like a computer's unjustified default, not the way a person typing would have done it.
8 -- Date usually with three letters, or in form as 110471.
9 - words run over consistent with word processor
10 - may be a Times Roman or similar font not generally available then (per Haas Atlas)
11 - signature looks faked
12 - no errors and whiteout
13 - no letterhead
14 - exact match for Microsoft Word Processor
15 - Paper size problem, Air Force and Guard did not use 8 1/2 x 11 inch paper until the 1980s.
16 - Overlap analysis is an exact match
17 - absence of hyphens to split words between lines, c/w 1970's typewriter.
18 - 5000 Longmont #8 in Houston Tx. does not exist
19 - Box 34567 is suspicious, at best. The current use of the po box 34567 is Ashland Chemical Company, A Division of Ashland Oil, Incorporated P. O. Box 34567 Houston
20 - it would have been nearly impossible to center a letterhead with proportional spacing without a computer.
21 - Bush's grade would "normally" be abbreviated "1Lt" not "1st Lt"
22 - Subject matter bizarre
23 - Air Force did not use street addresses for their offices, rather HQ AFLC/CC, Wright-Patterson AFB, OH 45433.
24 - kerning was not available
25 - In the August 18, 1973 memo, Jerry Killian purportedly writes: "Staudt has obviously pressured Hodges more about Bush. I'm having trouble running interference and doing my job." but General Staudt, who thought very highly of Lt. Bush, retired in 1972.
26 - Language not generally used by military
27 - Not signed or initialed
28 - Not in any format that a military person would use, e.g. orders not given by Memo.
29 - Document has background marks all over the place, and looks to be copies of copies with repeatable marks.




472 posted on 09/10/2004 10:47:16 AM PDT by mabelkitty (Zealous Troll Hunter - and you know who you are - you've been warned.)
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To: PhiKapMom
Good Point! I spent just over one year in the 147th TANG following active duty in the USAF - my service there overlapped with GWB

I have looked at all my old documents (Orders, discharge papers, etc) - and no mention of a Post Office Box - just Ellington

Also on all my papers the officer's singature block with rank is ALWAYs followed by the designation TX ANG

That designation is missing from the CBS documents - just one more reason why thay are faked!!

480 posted on 09/10/2004 10:50:13 AM PDT by VRWCTexan (History has a long memory - but still repeats itself)
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To: PhiKapMom

BTTT


489 posted on 09/10/2004 10:53:22 AM PDT by Mo1 (FR NEWS ALERT .... John Kerry over dosed on Botox and thinks he's Bob KerrEy)
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To: PhiKapMom

TANG

Besides being the drink of astronauts (really dating myself), what does it stand for?


517 posted on 09/10/2004 11:03:32 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights (What part of SHALL PASS NO LAW do they not understand?)
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