Posted on 09/10/2004 3:24:24 AM PDT by The Bandit
Would appear some democrat by the name of coldfeet has made very similar documents as those CBS used. Notice the use use of the superscript in the below sample document. A article on Bush AWOL on democrat.com that was written in 2000 links to it (a href=http://www.democrats.com/display.cfm?id=157>Click Here.)
Let me paste a background quote from the page here:
As Marty Heldt points out in TomPaine.com, a document entitled "Military Biography of George Walker Bush" shows that Bush was subsequently assigned to headquarters in Denver from October 2, 1973 to November 21, 1974. He concludes that Bush was "punished" with 6 months of additional inactive duty beyond his original scheduled termination on May 26, 1974.
Perhaps some freepers can give this a close examination to see if they are the same fonts (I would but I am brain dead at this hour.)
Compare this Democrat.com Doc with the CBS Fakes Excerpt:Would appear some democrat by the name of coldfeet has made very similar documents as those CBS used. Notice the use use of the superscript in the below sample document. A article on Bush AWOL on democrat.com that was written in 2000 links to it .....
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Thanks, Grampa. I saved coldfeet's doc to my computer 'just in case'
they mysteriously disappear from the 'Net .....
It's time for real coverage of how the news is made. Here's some questions for CBS:
How large is Rather's staff? Does he take "research" from the DNC or their spin-off fronts?
If he's "fed" the "news" is there an inherent bias to keep his handlers in power?
Is there a conflict of interest when your "news" is from people out power? Is there incentive to slant news to get "your guys" back in?
Does Rather have a dog in this fight?
If the DNC is doing Rather's work for him, what are they getting in return? What's the cost? Does CBS pay with their reputation for Rather's "scoops"?
What is the coin of the realm for a one-sided "bribe" in the news field? Is it information?
FOIA only requires the release of actual documents, not the creation of one or more documents. To the extent that this document was "created" (note: the document says it is "releasable" under FOIA) it would not be a valid FOIA document because it would (I presume) have been a compilation of information in other records.
Bogus dude! Anyone can see just by looking at the type. Hehehe! Hope heads from CBS roll with this one starting with Pan Blather.
bump!
When did Commanding Officers begin using Post Office Box Numbers? When I was in, we just had the Sq No & Hq, the Base and the City & State.
Nail him....'
Thanks for the ping!
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It is cool up here, but I sure do miss the Texas Hill Country. Sniff...
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The following history of George W. Bush's Guard service was first published by TomPaine.com this June.
You can't just walk away
Vietnam had been over for a couple of years and the U.S. was at peace when I graduated from high school. When I told my parents that I was going to go into the service my mother was a little upset. My dad, though, was very supportive with just one warning, "Once you sign, once you join up, you can't just walk away. You have to follow orders."
I thought about that a lot recently when I first heard the story of how G.W. Bush had seemingly just walked away from at least a year's service in the National Guard. He had, it now appears, deserted his post. A charge so serious that I could not believe that a presidential candidate could get away with it.
"ALMOST POSITIVE"
But a quick glance at Bush's military service tells why George felt he could walk away from his duty without fear of recriminations. G.W. Bush had been treated special since before he signed up. The rumors had circulated for years that G.W. had gotten into the Guard because of his prominent father. The senior Bush denied such rumors including a specific rumor mentioning President Bush's friend, Houston businessman Sid Adger, as the one who had wielded influence, saying he "was almost positive" (Dallas Morning News, September 28, 1999) that he had not talked with Adger about the Guard.
One who was even more positive that G.W. Bush had gotten into the Guard on his own was Colonel Walter B. "Buck" Staudt, then commander of the Texas Air National Guard. Colonel Staudt told the Los Angeles Times last July 4th that "Nobody did anything for him. There was no goddamn influence on his behalf. Neither his daddy nor anybody else got him into the Guard." (The Los Angeles Times, July 4, 1999.)
That seemed to be the line that the Junior Bush's spokesman David Beckwith took when he declared that G.W. Bush's special commission and treatment in the Guard were "routine." He said, "Our information is there was absolutely no special deal." (The Los Angeles Times, July 4, 1999.)
That somebody had influenced G.W. Bush's admission into the Guard became clear when Bush's entrance test results were released. He had scored the bare minimum 25 percent on one of the exams, and he was chosen over several hundred others who sought entrance to the Texas guard. (The Age (Australian Press) September 30, 1999.)
Then came the crushing news that the former Speaker of the Texas House of Representatives had testified under oath that he had been contacted by Houston businessman "Sid Adger and asked to recommend George W. Bush for a pilot position with the Air National Guard," and that he called General James Rose and "did so." (Dallas Morning News, September 28, 1999.)
This testimony was brought about by a lawsuit alleging that the State of Texas had allowed Gtech to keep its lucrative lottery contract in exchange for former Texas Lieutenant Governor Ben Barnes's silence about helping Mr. Bush get into the Texas Air National Guard. Not long after Barnes gave his testimony the case was settled out of court. (The Dallas Morning News, October 30, 1999.)
So, despite all claims to the contrary, Bush had in fact received aid in getting into the Texas Guard. Young G.W. Bush was sworn in on the very day he applied, complete with a ceremony for the press. He was then sent to basic training and given a special commission instantly making him a second lieutenant.
LEAVES OF ABSENCE
That fall, while some of the heaviest fighting of the Vietnam War raged, young Bush was allowed to take a leave of absence to go work on the Florida senatorial campaign of Edward Gurney. He also took time off from the Guard in 1970 for his dad's congressional campaign and then from May to November 1972 to travel to Alabama to work on a Republican U.S. Senate campaign.
Bush was required to attend drills with the Alabama National Guard. But there is no evidence in Guard files that he even bothered to show up. General William Turnipseed and his aide Kenneth Lott both flatly deny that Bush ever appeared for duty in Alabama. (The Boston Globe, May 23, 2000.)
When Bush went back to Texas after his electioneering break he didn't bother with showing up for his Guard duties. In fact, seven months rolled 'round until Bush's two superior officers at Ellington Air Force Base, Lieutenant Colonel William D. Harris Jr. and Lieutenant Colonel Jerry B. Killian, effectively declared Bush missing from duty because they could not perform his annual evaluation covering the year from May 1, 1972 to April 30, 1973. They stated in their filing that ''Lt. Bush has not been observed at this unit during the period of this report."
Within days of being reported missing, Bush showed up again in the Texas Guard records as doing duty. His friend at the time (U.S. News, November 1, 1999), Al Lloyd, now speculates that Bush's superiors noticed and that "I'll bet someone called him up and said, 'George, you're in a pickle. Get your ass down here and perform some duty.'" (The Boston Globe, May 23, 2000.) Lloyd was an administrative officer with the Texas Guard until his retirement in 1995 as personnel director of the Texas Air Guard and he is a self-professed Bush supporter.
Bush only served thirty-six days of duty after that and he was given an honorable disharge eight months early. The early release wasn't unusual and the honorable discharge was just what Bush had always known he would get. After all, he had been shown privileges and granted a wide-ranging leeway that included letting him disappear from the service for a full year. The pilot who had had expensive flight training was allowed to work as a campaign aide for three different legislative races.
There is an indication that someone higher up was trying to find out why G.W. was missing for so long. Shortly before he was given his honorable discharge a request from National Guard headquarters was placed for Bush's annual evaluation for that year. The national headquarters was told by the administrative officer at Bush's base, ''Report for this period not available for administrative reasons.'' (The Boston Globe, May 23, 2000.)
It looks as if Bush got into the Guard with a cover-up and then got out with a cover-up. In the meantime it looks like Bush got away with the one thing my father told me I couldn't do. "You can't just walk away."
Newspaper and magazine articles dealing with George W. Bush's Air National Guard service.
What is this creeps name?
I can't remember.
SO nice.....
Free Enterprise at work, I bet this fellow has been at work for awhile....
He references an article? in tom paine.com.....
probably authored it.
Send the FBI over to check out his manufacturing equipment (his typewriter or PC )
Got this when chasing links on TomPaine.com:
The TomPaine.com website has encountered an error.
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What you should do now:
Using the Yaghoo search re Marty Heldt Gay to see what tieins are there, show an interesting set of hits:
http://search.yahoo.com/bin/search?p=Marty%20Heldt%20%20Gay
I am gonna dump this on here before it vanishes:
Marty Heldt is a farmer. He told us, "I spent 17 years as a brakeman [for the railroad] before moving back to the farm. That job had some long layovers that gave me a lot of time to read and to educate myself." He lives in Clinton, Iowa.
Nearly two hundred manila-wrapped pages of George Walker Bush's service records came to me like some sort of giant banana stuffed into my mailbox.
I had been seeking more information about his military record to find out what he did during what I think of as his "missing year," when he failed to show up for duty as a member of the Air National Guard, as the Boston Globe first reported.
The initial page I examined is a chronological listing of Bush's service record. This document charts active duty days served from the time of his enlistment. His first year, a period of extensive training, young Bush is credited with serving 226 days. In his second year in the Guard, Bush is shown to have logged a total of 313 days. After Bush got his wings in June 1970 until May 1971, he is credited with a total of 46 days of active duty. From May 1971 to May 1972, he logged 22 days of active duty.
Then something happened. From May 1, 1972 until April 30, 1973 -- a period of twelve months -- there are no days shown, though Bush should have logged at least thirty-six days service (a weekend per month in addition to two weeks at camp).
I found out that for the first four months of this time period, when Bush was working on the U.S. Senate campaign of Winton Blount in Alabama, that he did not have orders to be at any unit anywhere.
On May 24, 1972, Bush had applied for a transfer from the Texas Air National Guard to Montgomery, Alabama. On his transfer request Bush noted that he was seeking a "no pay" position with the 9921st Air Reserve Squadron. The commanding officer of the Montgomery unit, Lieutenant Colonel Reese R. Bricken, promptly accepted Bush's request to do temporary duty under his command.
But Bush never received orders for the 9921st in Alabama. Such decisions were under the jurisdiction of the Air Reserve Personnel Center in Denver, Colorado, and the Center disallowed the transfer. The Director of Personnel Resources at the Denver headquarters noted in his rejection that Bush had a "Military Service Obligation until 26 May 1974." As an "obligated reservist," Bush was ineligible to serve his time in what amounted to a paper unit with few responsibilities. As the unit's leader, Lieutenant Colonel Bricken recently explained to the Boston Globe, ''We met just one weeknight a month. We were only a postal unit. We had no airplanes. We had no pilots. We had no nothing.''
The headquarters document rejecting Bush's requested Alabama transfer was dated May 31, 1972. This transfer refusal left Bush still obligated to attend drills with his regular unit, the 111th Fighter Interceptor Squadron stationed at Ellington Air Force Base near Houston. However, Bush had already left Texas two weeks earlier and was now working on Winton Blount's campaign staff in Alabama.
In his annual evaluation report, Bush's two supervising officers, Lieutenant Colonel William D. Harris Jr. and Lieutenant Colonel Jerry B. Killian, made it clear that Bush had "not been observed at" his Texas unit "during the period of report" -- the twelve month period from May 1972 through the end of April 1973.
In the comments section of this evaluation report Lieutenant Colonel Harris notes that Bush had "cleared this base on 15 May 1972, and has been performing equivalent training in a non flying role with the 187th Tac Recon Gp at Dannelly ANG Base, Alabama" (the Air National Guard Tactical Reconnaissance Group at Dannelly Air Force Base near Montgomery, Alabama).
This was incorrect. Bush didn't apply for duty at Dannelly Air Force Base until September 1972. From May until September he was in limbo, his temporary orders having been rejected. And when his orders to appear at Dannelly came through he still didn't appear. Although his instructions clearly directed Bush to report to Lieutenant Colonel William Turnipseed on the dates of "7-8 October 0730-1600, and 4-5 November 0730-1600," he never did. In interviews conducted with the Boston Globe earlier this year, both General Turnipseed and his former administration officer, Lieutenant Colonel Kenneth Lott, said that Bush never put in an appearance. The lack of regular attendance goes against the basic concept of a National Guard kept strong by citizen soldiers who maintain their skills through regular training.
Bush campaign aides claim, according to a report in the New York Times, that Bush in fact served a single day -- November 29,1972 -- with the Alabama unit. If this is so it means that for a period of six weeks Lieutenant George W. Bush ignored direct instructions from headquarters to report for duty. But it looks even worse for Lieutenant Bush if the memory of Turnipseed and Lott are correct and Bush never reported at all.
After the election was over (candidate Blount lost), Bush was to have returned to Texas and the 111th at Ellington Air Force Base. Bush did return to Houston, where he worked for an inner-city youth organization, Project P.U.L.L. But, as I mentioned already, his annual evaluation report states that he had not been observed at his unit during the twelve months ending May 1973. This means that there were another five months, after he left Alabama, during which Bush did not fulfill any of his obligations as a Guardsman.
In fact, during the final four months of this period, December 1972 through May 29, 1973, neither Bush nor his aides have ever tried to claim attendance at any guard activities. So, incredibly, for a period of one year beginning May 1, 1972, there is just one day, November 29th, on which Bush claims to have performed duty for the Air National Guard. There are no dates of service for 1973 mentioned in Bush's "Chronological Service Listing."
Bush's long absence from the records comes to an end one week after he failed to comply with an order to attend "Annual Active Duty Training" starting at the end of May 1973. He then began serving irregularly with his unit. Nothing indicates in the records that he ever made up the time he missed.
Early in September 1973, Bush submitted a request seeking to be discharged from the Texas Air National Guard and to be transferred to the Air Reserve Personnel Center. This transfer to the inactive reserves would effectively end any requirements to attend monthly drills. The request -- despite Bush's record -- was approved. That fall Bush enrolled in Harvard Business School.
Both Bush and his aides have made numerous statements to the effect that Bush fulfilled all of his guard obligations. They point to Bush's honorable discharge as proof of this. But the records indicate that George W Bush missed a year of service. This lack of regular attendance goes against the basic concept of a National Guard kept strong by citizen soldiers who maintain their skills and preparedness through regular training.
And we know that Bush understood that regular attendance was essential to the proficiency of the National Guard. In the Winter 1998 issue of the National Guard Review Bush is quoted as saying "I can remember walking up to my F-102 fighter and seeing the mechanics there. I was on the same team as them, and I relied on them to make sure that I wasn't jumping out of an airplane. There was a sense of shared responsibility in that case. The responsibility to get the airplane down. The responsibility to show up and do your job." Bush has found military readiness to be a handy campaign issue.
Bush's unsatisfactory attendance could have resulted in being ordered to active duty for a period up to two years -- including a tour in Vietnam. Lieutenant Bush would have been aware of this as he had signed a statement which listed the penalties for poor attendance and unsatisfactory participation. Bush could also have faced a general court martial. But this was unlikely as it would have also meant dragging in the two officers who had signed off on his annual evaluation.
Going after officers in this way would have been outside the norm. Most often an officer would be subject to career damaging letters of reprimand and poor Officers Effectiveness Ratings. These types of punishment would often result in the resignation of the officer. In Bush's case, as someone who still had a commitment for time not served, he could have been brought back and made to do drills. But this would have been a further embarrassment to the service as it would have made it semi-public that a Lieutenant Colonel and squadron commander had let one of his subordinates go missing for a year.
For the Guard, for the ranking officers involved and for Lieutenant Bush the easiest and quietest thing to do was adding time onto his commitment and placing that time in the inactive reserves.
Among these old documents there is a single clue as to how Bush finally fulfilled his obligations and made up for those missed drill days. In my first request for information I received a small three-page document containing the "Military Biography Of George Walker Bush." This was sent from the Headquarters Air Reserve Personnel Center (ARPC) in Denver Colorado.
In this official summary of Bush's military service, I found something that was not mentioned in Bush's records from the National Guard Bureau in Arlington, Virginia. When Bush enlisted his commitment ran until May 26, 1974. This was the separation date shown on all documents as late as October 1973, when Bush was transferred to the inactive reserves at Denver, Colorado. But the date of final separation shown on the official summary from Denver, is November 21, 1974. The ARPC had tacked an extra six months on to Bush's commitment.
Bush may have finally "made-up" his missed days. But he did so not by attending drills -- in fact he never attended drills again after he enrolled at Harvard. Instead, he had his name added to the roster of a paper unit in Denver, Colorado, a paper unit where he had no responsibility to show up and do a job.
Bush has found military readiness to be a handy campaign issue. Yet even though more than two decades have passed since Bush left the Air National Guard, some military sources still bristle at his service record -- and what effect it had on readiness. "In short, for the several hundred thousand dollars we tax payers spent on getting [Bush] trained as a fighter jock, he repaid us with sixty-eight days of active duty. And God only knows if and when he ever flew on those days," concludes a military source. "I've spent more time cleaning up latrines than he did flying.">
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