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Hurricane Ivan - 9/10 thread - 5am update predicts Jamaica tonight, western Florida Monday night(?)
national weather service ^ | 9/10/04 | national weather service

Posted on 09/10/2004 1:58:54 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat

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To: tutstar

Include me if you start one.


41 posted on 09/10/2004 4:30:57 AM PDT by cupcakes
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To: longtermmemmory

Blame? They will relish in the fact that this is happening thinking somehow this "proves their point". Imagine, relishing in the destruction of people's lives so you can feel your right. They are pitiful.


42 posted on 09/10/2004 4:33:34 AM PDT by cupcakes
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To: Diddle E. Squat

repeating my offer to Freeper horse owners who are evacuating Florida,
I have a small pasture where you can primitive camp with your horses. Free.

I am near the Raleigh, NC area.
Freepmail me for more info.


43 posted on 09/10/2004 4:34:00 AM PDT by millefleur
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To: tutstar
I'll second that, I'm just plain weary. Restocked the goods and cooked yesterday. Today the Keys evacuees arrive, along with family in for the UM-FSU game. The only hurricanes I am watching today will be the ones chasing the Seminoles around the field. Just to forget for a few hours will be nice.
44 posted on 09/10/2004 4:38:21 AM PDT by twin2
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To: PJ-Comix

Looking at this morning's sat loops it looks as if the eye is going through a cycle. He's disorganized right now, but that eye will come back and the intensity will increase (it looks like) just before the storm hits Jamaica. This new eye formation will take place in the daytime, not good.


45 posted on 09/10/2004 4:43:10 AM PDT by numberonepal (Arms, eyes, and ears on election day.)
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To: numberonepal
08:00 Update 32A

WTNT34 KNHC 101134
TCPAT4
BULLETIN
HURRICANE IVAN INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY NUMBER 32A
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
8 AM AST FRI SEP 10 2004

...POWERFUL IVAN CONTINUES TO MOVE TOWARD JAMAICA...

A HURRICANE WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT FOR JAMAICA AND THE CAYMAN
ISLANDS.

A HURRICANE WATCH AND A TROPICAL STORM WARNING REMAIN IN EFFECT FOR
THE ENTIRE SOUTHWEST PENINSULA OF HAITI FROM THE BORDER OF THE
DOMINICAN REPUBLIC WESTWARD...INCLUDING PORT AU PRINCE.

A HURRICANE WATCH AND A TROPICAL STORM WARNING ARE IN EFFECT FOR THE
DOMINICAN REPUBLIC FROM BARAHONA TO PERDENALES. A TROPICAL STORM
WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT FOR THE SOUTHWESTERN COAST OF THE DOMINICAN
REPUBLIC FROM PALENQUE WESTWARD TO BARAHONA.

A HURRICANE WATCH IS IN EFFECT FOR CENTRAL AND EASTERN CUBA FROM
MATANZAS EASTWARD. TROPICAL STORM OR HURRICANE WARNINGS MAY BE
REQUIRED FOR PORTIONS OF EASTERN CUBA LATER THIS MORNING.

INTERESTS IN CENTRAL AND WESTERN CARIBBEAN SEA SHOULD CLOSELY
MONITOR THE PROGRESS OF DANGEROUS HURRICANE IVAN.

AT 8 AM AST...1200Z...THE EYE OF HURRICANE IVAN WAS LOCATED NEAR
LATITUDE 16.3 NORTH...LONGITUDE 74.7 WEST OR ABOUT 165 MILES...
270 KM...SOUTHEAST OF KINGSTON JAMAICA.

IVAN IS MOVING TOWARD THE WEST-NORTHWEST NEAR 13 MPH...20 KM/HR.
THIS MOTION IS EXPECTED TO BRING THE CENTER OF IVAN TO NEAR JAMAICA
TONIGHT.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS REMAIN NEAR 145 MPH...230 KM/HR...WITH
HIGHER GUSTS. STRONGER WINDS...ESPECIALLY IN GUSTS...ARE LIKELY
OVER ELEVATED TERRAIN. SOME FLUCTUATIONS IN INTENSITY ARE LIKELY
AND IVAN COULD BECOME EVEN STRONGER AS IT NEARS JAMAICA.

HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 50 MILES... 85 KM...
FROM THE CENTER...AND TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP
TO 175 MILES...280 KM.

THE LATEST MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE REPORTED BY A RECONAAISSANCE
PLANE WAS 934 MB...27.58 INCHES.

STORM SURGE FLOODING OF 5 TO 8 FEET ABOVE NORMAL TIDE LEVELS...
ALONG WITH LARGE AND DANGEROUS BATTERING WAVES...CAN BE EXPECTED
NEAR THE CENTER OF IVAN IN THE HURRICANE WARNING AREA.

RAINFALL AMOUNTS OF 6 TO 10 INCHES...POSSIBLY CAUSING LIFE-
THREATENING FLASH FLOODS AND MUD SLIDES...CAN BE EXPECTED ALONG THE
PATH OF IVAN.

REPEATING THE 8 AM AST POSITION...16.3 N... 74.7 W. MOVEMENT
TOWARD...WEST-NORTHWEST NEAR 13 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...145
MPH. MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...934 MB.

FOR STORM INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO YOUR AREA...PLEASE MONITOR
PRODUCTS ISSUED BY YOUR LOCAL WEATHER OFFICE.

THE NEXT ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER AT
11 AM AST.

FORECASTER AVILA
46 posted on 09/10/2004 5:03:47 AM PDT by numberonepal (Arms, eyes, and ears on election day.)
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To: Howlin; Ed_NYC; MonroeDNA; widgysoft; Springman; Timesink; dubyaismypresident; Grani; coug97; ...
Local statement from Monroe Co., FL (Key West):
Mandatory evacuation of lower keys residents to begin at 700 am today, Mandatory evacuation of visitors and non-residents in effect.Mandatory evacuation of recreational vehicles in effect.Mandatory evacuation of mobile homes in effect.
New information since last issuance. storm information has been updated.
Areas affected. this statement is specific to the Florida keys of monroe county.
Watches and warnings. no watches or warnings are in effect for the Florida keys at this time.
Storm information. at 500 am edt, the center of hurricane ivan was located near latitude 15.9 north, longitude 74.2 west, or about 225 miles southeast of kingston jamaica. This is about 775 miles southeast of key west. Maximum sustained winds were near 145 miles an hour, making ivan a category four on the saffir-simpson scale. Ivan is moving toward the west northwest near 13 miles an hour. Minimum central pressure was estimated at 930 mb, or 27.46 inches of mercury.
Precautionary/preparedness actions. an evacuation of visitors, non-residents, recreational vehicles and mobile home residents is in effect. A phased mandatory evacuation of keys residents will begin this morning. At 700 am, those from key west to the 7-mile bridge should evacuate. At noon, residents of the middle keys should evacuate. At 400 pm, residents of the upper keys should evacuate. Residents, make sure you have your re-entry permit. The shelter for monroe county is located at Florida international university. Take u.s. 1 north to the turnpike, then exit east on sw 8th street. Follow the signs to the shelter, which will be open at 500 pm today. Shelters in the keys will not be open. Tolls at card sound road and on the Florida turnpike have been lifted. The monroe county information hot-line has the latest information. They may be reached at 1 800, 9 5 5, 5 5 0 4. Key west international airport will continue flight operations through tonight at least. Check with your airline for your flight status. Greyhound bus plans to continue service through Friday night. Extra departures have been scheduled. Call 1 800, 2 3 1, 2 2 2 2 for details. The passenger ferry to fort myers has two departures scheduled today. Call 3 0 5, 2 9 4, 4 0 0 0 for details. The authorities ask that you remain calm, and listen for later instructions and recommendations. Once again, the monroe county emergency hot-line is 1 800, 9 5 5, 5 5 0 4.
Marine impacts. in order to allow vehicle traffic to proceed unimpeded, the bridges at snake creek and jewfish creek will be locked in the down position, and thus closed to marine vessel traffic.
Next update. the next statement concerning hurricane ivan will be issued around 830 am.

47 posted on 09/10/2004 5:17:12 AM PDT by mhking
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To: mhking

Pray people, pray.


48 posted on 09/10/2004 5:38:57 AM PDT by Gabz (Hurricanes and Kerry/Edwards have 2 things in common - lots of wind and destruction.)
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To: Rome2000
Do you have a link to the site that has the map you have posted?

I have a friend staying with me here in DC. He has property in the lower Keys, and is trying to get as much information about the possible route of Ivan as he can.

Thanks.

49 posted on 09/10/2004 5:50:37 AM PDT by chs68
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To: Catspaw

Storm not expected until daybreak on Monday. I just have too many preparations to deal with. Got the rest of the day securing my construction job sites and a few mor things to clear up in my yard.
If I decode to leave I'll get out Saturday late.

The bad thing about leaving is you may not et back for a while, perhaps a week and that is leaning me to staying. I rode out Georges in 1998 that had sustained winds 115-120 and gusts in the 140's.
Hoping Cuba knocks this one down into that category.

Georges wasn't fun to say the least and there was massive damage to many structures, but I built my house in 1996 to withstand 175 ,mph winds.

It's a crapshoot right now. I am exchausted already after doing the shutters. Anxiety is rampant among the locals here.

It's all so depressing.


50 posted on 09/10/2004 6:34:57 AM PDT by jsh3180
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To: chs68

Hey your friend from DC with property down here in the Lower Keys is free to call me for info if he likes. Been here for 30 years and been through this more times than I care to remmeber.

305-744-7971


51 posted on 09/10/2004 6:38:52 AM PDT by jsh3180
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To: jsh3180
Thanks.

He tends to be a real worrier, so I am trying to focus him on the options he would have in case the absolute worst happens (the absolute worst, in my view, being total destruction of all houses from the 7 -mile bridge south to Key West, one or two breaks in US Route 1 between Key Largo and Marathon, another break or two in Route 1 between the 7 mile bridge and Key West, and no water, electricity, telephone service, internet service, or cable service in the lower keys).

He has a couple of friends who have decided to ride out the hurricane, and they live in a house near to his property.

I'll wait until he is a bit more calm before I give him your number ....

THANKS again....

52 posted on 09/10/2004 6:46:52 AM PDT by chs68
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To: kerrybotox

The news media will report the negative numbers as due to the hurricane. No big deal.


53 posted on 09/10/2004 7:13:44 AM PDT by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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To: My Favorite Headache

hope it doesn't hit Sanibel yet again.


54 posted on 09/10/2004 7:15:00 AM PDT by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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To: tutstar

Please add me to ping list


55 posted on 09/10/2004 7:31:37 AM PDT by DAVEY CROCKETT (Character exalts Liberty and Freedom, Righteous exalts a Nation.)
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To: conservative in nyc
Hopefully, Ivan doesn't hit Florida. It's the last thing the state needs. But if it does hit Florida, landfall along the extreme SW coast wouldn't be too bad -- it's mainly Everglades National Park.

It's a lot more than that now. Collier County is the fastest growing county in the nation by some measures.

For example, Naples - where I live.

These latest tracks are disturbing.

56 posted on 09/10/2004 7:45:45 AM PDT by The Iguana
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To: The Iguana
Hurricane Ivan Discussion Number 33

Statement as of 11:00 am EDT on September 10, 2004

 
visible satellite images show that the cloud pattern associated with
Ivan does not appear as well organized as it was yesterday.
However...there are plenty of banding features and well-established
outflow.  You can see the convective ring associated with the
eyewall on high resolution visible images.  Super rapid scan IR
images show the very strong convective ring currently re-developing
around the eye. Data from a reconnaissance plane indicate that the
surface pressure has risen to 934 mb but the flight level winds
remain at 144 knots. This supports an initial intensity of 125
knots.  Some fluctuations in intensity are likely before Ivan moves
near or over Jamaica where the effects of the high terrain may
weaken the hurricane. It is possible that Ivan will re-strengthen
some between the Cayman Islands and Cuba where the ocean is quite
warm. Once in the Gulf of Mexico...the shear is forecast to
increase and Ivan should gradually weaken. Ivan is expected to
remain a dangerous hurricane until it reaches the United States.          

The hurricane is moving toward the west-northwest or 300 degrees at
10 knots...steered by the subtropical ridge over the Bahamas. As
the ridge weakens...the steering currents should weaken too...and
the hurricane will likely continue on a west-northwest to northwest
track with a decrease in forward speed. There is still high
confidence in this early portion of the forecast but...it becomes
uncertain after the hurricane crosses Cuba when guidance shows that
the hurricane could continue over the Gulf of Mexico or could turn
north-northeast over Florida. In fact...this has been the case for
the past couple of days. The official forecast does not favor one
scenario more than the other...and brings the hurricane northward
over the Gulf of Mexico very near and eventually over Florida.

 
Forecaster Avila

57 posted on 09/10/2004 7:47:52 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: MikeinIraq; don-o; Paleo Conservative; MadIvan; ProudVet77; 4everontheRight; Squantos; Peach; ...

Ivan ping!

This is a short-term, medium-volume ping list. If you want on or off, simply FReepmail me.

BTW, does anyone know how to board up bay windows?

58 posted on 09/10/2004 7:50:27 AM PDT by K1avg
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To: DAVEY CROCKETT; cupcakes; tutstar
You've all been added to my Ivan ping list.

I may or may not continue using it past Ivan - depends if we get more threatening hurricanes, which may be possible. {sob}

59 posted on 09/10/2004 7:53:03 AM PDT by K1avg
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To: Dog Gone

Hurricane Ivan Advisory Number 33


Statement as of 11:00 am EDT on September 10, 2004


...Dangerous Hurricane Ivan gradually approaching Jamaica...expected
to move slowly between the Cayman Islands and Cuba...

a Hurricane Warning remains in effect for Jamaica and the Cayman
Islands.

A Hurricane Watch and a Tropical Storm Warning remain in effect for
the entire southwest peninsula of Haiti from the border of the
Dominican Republic westward...including Port au Prince.

At 11 am EDT...1500z...the government of Cuba has issued a Hurricane
Watch for the entire island and a Tropical Storm Warning for the
South Coast of eastern Cuba from Cabo cruz to Santiago de Cuba.

At 11 am EDT...1500z...all warnings and watches have been
discontinued for the Dominican Republic.

Interests in central and western Caribbean Sea should closely
monitor the progress of dangerous Hurricane Ivan.

At 11 am EDT...1500z...the eye of Hurricane Ivan was located near
latitude 16.5 north...longitude 75.1 west or about 155 miles...
245 km...southeast of Kingston Jamaica.

Ivan is moving toward the west-northwest near 12 mph...19 km/hr.
This motion is expected to bring the core of Ivan to near Jamaica
tonight or early Saturday.

Maximum sustained winds are near 145 mph...230 km/hr...with higher
gusts. Stronger winds...especially in gusts...are likely over
elevated terrain. Some fluctuations in intensity are likely during
the next 24 hours.

Hurricane force winds extend outward up to 60 miles... 95 km...
from the center...and tropical storm force winds extend outward up
to 175 miles...280 km.

Estimated minimum central pressure is 934 mb...27.58 inches.
Storm surge flooding of 5 to 8 feet above normal tide levels...
along with large and dangerous battering waves...can be expected
near the center of Ivan in the Hurricane Warning area.

Rainfall amounts of 6 to 10 inches...possibly causing life-
threatening flash floods and mud slides...can be expected along the
path of Ivan.

Repeating the 11 am EDT position...16.5 N... 75.1 W. Movement
toward...west-northwest near 12 mph. Maximum sustained
winds...145 mph. Minimum central pressure... 934 mb.

For storm information specific to your area...please monitor
products issued by your local weather office.

An intermediate advisory will be issued by the National Hurricane
Center at 2 PM EDT followed by the next complete advisory at 5 PM
EDT.

Forecaster Avila


60 posted on 09/10/2004 7:57:10 AM PDT by libtoken
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