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WASH POST - "SOME QUESTION AUTHENTICITY OF PAPERS"
WASHINTON POST ^ | SEPT10, 2004 - PAGE A01 | Michael Dobbs and Mike Allen

Posted on 09/09/2004 7:47:57 PM PDT by 11th_VA

Documents unearthed by CBS News that raise doubts about whether President Bush fulfilled his obligations to the Texas Air National Guard include several features suggesting that they were generated by a computer or word processor rather than a Vietnam War-era typewriter, experts said yesterday.

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(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; bush; bush2004; camejo; cheney; dubya; edwards; election; forgeries; gwb; kerry; killian; nader; napalminthemorning; rathergate; seebsnews; tang
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To: 11th_VA
Every judge in this country will tell you that a first arrest for DWI indicates a probability the arrested person has driven drunk on several different occasions prior to his arrest.

How many other times has CBS lied, faked, forged? Their credibility is shot with those of us who pay attention, but what about the guy or gal who believes what they're told by the MSM?

These people are pond scum and I hope America's about to figure it out.

121 posted on 09/09/2004 8:32:43 PM PDT by Chunga
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To: elhombrelibre
Ever since Al Gore invented the internet ...

What Hath Al Wroth?

122 posted on 09/09/2004 8:32:57 PM PDT by Boomer Geezer (God Bless ALL of our military and Vets -- past and present!)
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To: traviskicks

To see a truly amazing example of Washington Post bias.. This ran on page one a few days ago. It's on the Greenspan testimony.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A5044-2004Sep8.html

In it the Post places this, and this wasn't mentioned in Greenspan's testimony and they have no reason to put it in:


August retail sales, for example, were disappointing for many chains, such as Wal-Mart, that market primarily to middle income households, while upscale stores such as Neiman Marcus thrived. Greenspan didn't mention auto sales, but General Motors and Ford Motor Co. have announced plans to cut production because their dealer lots are clogged with inventories. Intel Corp., the world's largest computer chip maker, and the drug store chain Rite Aid have lowered sales forecasts because of sluggish demand.


lol why mention that upscale stores are booming!?!?!? And then hint in the next sentence that Greenspan mentioned it (of course he didn't)!This message of class warfare has obviously been gnawing at this reporters mind - not to mention a Kerry win.

This is the actual testimony:
http://www.federalreserve.gov/BoardDocs/Testimony/2004/200409082/default.htm


This is what I was talking about with the Post, you have good reporters and Partisan reporters and you never know what you're going to get from them.


123 posted on 09/09/2004 8:33:25 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/welfare.htm)
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To: hawkaw
"A senior CBS official, who asked not to be named because CBS managers did not want to go beyond their official statement, named one of the network's sources as retired Maj. Gen. Bobby W. Hodges, the immediate superior of the documents' alleged author, Lt. Col. Jerry B. Killian. He said that a CBS reporter read the documents to Hodges over the phone, and that Hodges replied that "these are the things that Killian had expressed to me at the time."

Is this the same Bobby Hodges, who as a Texas National Guard pilot was flying F102 combat missions in Vietnam on the day George W Bush started his basic training???????

124 posted on 09/09/2004 8:33:46 PM PDT by cookcounty (Army Vet, Army Dad)
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To: Cableguy
"Wash Post is doing a fair job in this election."

When you consider that they are liberal democrats, dedicated to Kerry's election, it must be pure torture for them. I'd say, with that in mind, they are doing a good to very good job. They are for the most part doing honest to goodness journalism. Who knew?

125 posted on 09/09/2004 8:34:24 PM PDT by tjg
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To: ironman

HOLY CRAP!!!!!


126 posted on 09/09/2004 8:34:54 PM PDT by BurbankErnie (I am an oxymoron - a California Republican)
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To: All
A document curiosity: I'm looking over the docs again. Does anybody find it odd - as I do - that the blacked-out address segment ("5000 Longmont #8") can still be read - despite the black-out attempt?
127 posted on 09/09/2004 8:35:49 PM PDT by alancarp (When does it cease to be "Freedom of the Press" and become outright SEDITION?)
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To: Boundless
That one superscript "th" is exactly what I'd expect from a typewriter with a "th" glyph on one type ball available at that machine, and such type balls did exist. Note that it takes up exactly one character space.

The latest facts I've read are that the memo has 13 point line spacing, which typewriters didn't have and that the August 18, 1973 memo refers to getting pressure from General Staudt, who resigned in 1972.

The image I linked to has been removed, so here is my post again with an image I made from the original file. It's hard to tell if the superscript is underlined or not.

The second line has 111th with the superscript th, and was dated 1968. All the rest have 111th with no superscript. They were obviously written on different typewriters at different times, but it obviously was possible to get a superscript in 1968, as these are official docs.

Here's a link to the doc from the records Bush released. see page 3: http://www.usatoday.com/news/bushdocs/9-Miscellaneous.pdf

128 posted on 09/09/2004 8:36:09 PM PDT by rocklobster11
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To: cookcounty

OMG!!!!


129 posted on 09/09/2004 8:36:30 PM PDT by hawkaw
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To: 11th_VA
From lincolnheritage.org:

In July 1968, General Hodgesbegan a 90-day voluntary tour of duty in Southeast Asia.  He participated in the “Palace Alert” program of the Air Force, a program using Air National Guard pilots flying F-102 interceptor aircraft in Southeast Asia.  During his tour of duty, General Hodges flew 51 combat missions out of South Vietnam and Northern Thailand for a total of 101 combat flying hours. In May 1969, he assumed command of the 147th Fighter Interceptor Group and under his command the unit carried out its air defense mission of the upper Texas Gulf Coast in an exceptional manner.  He also assumed command of Ellington AFB as an additional duty when the Air Force closed out its host base responsibility in March 1975. 

130 posted on 09/09/2004 8:37:17 PM PDT by cookcounty (Army Vet, Army Dad)
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To: 11th_VA
I hope Nightline doesn't face massive pre-emption due to the football game and the lateness of the local news on the east coast. Viewership will already be down in the big Eastern cities as a result.
131 posted on 09/09/2004 8:37:21 PM PDT by Chunga
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To: sinkspur

I think actually the thread that the blogs all linked to showed Texasforever thinking forgery first, but for different reasons than Buck. The blogs ran with Buck's quote, which had more detail and evidence to back up the claim, but maybe TF influenced his thinking? Just an observation.


132 posted on 09/09/2004 8:47:29 PM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: Sir Gawain; Texasforever

Well, TF and I are like brothers, so I'll gladly acknowledge his contribution to the snowball that started the corn-holing of CBS News and Dan Rather.


133 posted on 09/09/2004 8:50:34 PM PDT by sinkspur ("Can someone tell me where to find an ordained archpriest?"--Cardinal Fanfani)
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To: 11th_VA

This is just too wonderful if this blows up in CBS face. And may I add the face of the national media as a whole who all ran with this story completely!


134 posted on 09/09/2004 8:51:50 PM PDT by TheGhosts
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To: sinkspur

LOL. Well I smelled a rat because I am an old hand a CYA memos and I NEVER wrote one to myself I spead them far and wide.


135 posted on 09/09/2004 8:52:57 PM PDT by Texasforever (Kerry's new slogan "IT'S NOT THE STUPID CANDIDATE SO STOP SAYING THAT")
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To: 11th_VA

WaPo, Fox, ABC. This story is everywhere. Please please please let the DNC be behind this. Please.


136 posted on 09/09/2004 8:52:57 PM PDT by handy (Forgive me this day, my daily typos...The Truth is not a Smear!)
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To: Chunga

I honestly don't think I have ever watched nightline....but I will tonight. Hubby is watching the game.


137 posted on 09/09/2004 8:54:04 PM PDT by Gabz (Hurricanes and Kerry/Edwards have 2 things in common - lots of wind and destruction.)
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To: Tempest
"I wonder where the legs will lead to. Where is the source of these forgeries coming from."

Don't be surprised if the creeps at CBS claim the docs were forged by Bush supporters and it was all a setup....

138 posted on 09/09/2004 8:56:27 PM PDT by TheCrusader ("the frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the churches of God" Pope Urban II (c 1097 a.d.))
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To: 11th_VA; MeekOneGOP; devolve; PhilDragoo; potlatch; JohnHuang2; Mia T

It's the TYPEWRITER SCHTUPID! - ping.


139 posted on 09/09/2004 9:09:12 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (Jihad - coming to a school near you - 55 days until November 2nd - 9/11 is this Saturday.)
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To: Happy2BMe

CBS = Constantly Blowing Smoke.


140 posted on 09/09/2004 9:41:20 PM PDT by BooBoo1000
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