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False Documentation? Questions Arise About Authenticity of Newly Found Memos on Bush's Guard Service
ABC News ^ | 9/9/04

Posted on 09/09/2004 7:45:34 PM PDT by hispanarepublicana

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George W. Bush sits in an F102 fighter jet while serving in the Texas Air National Guard in this undated photo. President Bush was in the National Guard from 1968-1973.
Austin American Statesman/AP Photo

False Documentation?
Questions Arise About Authenticity of Newly Found Memos on Bush's Guard Service
ABCNEWS.com

Sept. 9, 2004— Questions are being raised about the authenticity of newly discovered documents relating to George W. Bush's service in the National Guard during the Vietnam War.

Marjorie Connell — widow of the late Lt. Col. Jerry Killian, the reported author of memos suggesting that Bush did not meet the standards for the Texas Air National Guard — questioned whether the documents were real.

"The wording in these documents is very suspect to me," she told ABC News Radio in an exclusive phone interview from her Texas home. She added that she "just can't believe these are his words."

First reported by CBS's 60 Minutes, the memos allegedly were found in Killian's personal files. But his family members say they doubt he ever made such documents, let alone kept them.

Connell said Killian did not type, and though he did take notes, they were usually on scraps of paper. "He was a person who did not take copious notes," she said. "He carried everything in his mind."

Killian's son, Gary Killian, who served in the Guard with his father, also told ABC News Radio that he doubts his father wrote the documents. "It was not the nature of my father to keep private files like this, nor would it have been in his own interest to do so," he said.

"We don't know where the documents come from," he said, adding, "They didn't come from any family member."

Connell said her late husband would be "turning over in his grave to know that a document such as this would be used against a fellow guardsman," and she is "sick" and "angry" that his name is "being battled back and forth on television."

Her late husband was a fan of the young Bush, said Connell, who remarried after her husband died in 1984. "I know for a fact that this young man … was an excellent aviator, an excellent person to be in the Guard, and he was very happy to have him become a member of the 111th."

Experts Question Veracity

Questions are also being raised about the memos by document experts, who say they appear to have been written on a computer, not a typewriter. The memos are dated 1972 and 1973, when computers with word-processing software were not available.

More than half a dozen document experts contacted by ABC News said they had doubts about the memos' authenticity.

"These documents do not appear to have been the result of technology that was available in 1972 and 1973," said Bill Flynn, one of country's top authorities on document authentication. "The cumulative evidence that's available … indicates that these documents were produced on a computer, not a typewriter:"

Among the points Flynn and other experts noted:

   The memos were written using a proportional typeface, where letters take up variable space according to their size, rather than fixed-pitch typeface used on typewriters, where each letter is allotted the same space. Proportional typefaces are available only on computers or on very high-end typewriters that were unlikely to be used by the National Guard.
   The memos include superscript, i.e. the "th" in "187th" appears above the line in a smaller font. Superscript was not available on typewriters.
   The memos included "curly" apostrophes rather than straight apostrophes found on typewriters.
   The font used in the memos is Times Roman, which was in use for printing but not in typewriters. The Haas Atlas — the bible of fonts — does not list Times Roman as an available font for typewriters.
   The vertical spacing used in the memos, measured at 13 points, was not available in typewriters, and only became possible with the advent of computers.



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To: XEHRpa

Ask not for whom the right-margin bell tolls --- it tolls fo John and Terroreeza !!!
This election is beginning to be fun.


141 posted on 09/10/2004 5:07:28 AM PDT by geros
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To: jriemer

Thanks for the link. When I looked at those 'documents', I noticed some strange things. I have a feeling that this is not an end to the forgery stories.

"Fontgate" is underway.


142 posted on 09/10/2004 5:39:28 AM PDT by RetSignman (Forever Optimistic)
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To: jhouston

Nothing on Yahoo news, or Detroit News. WTF


143 posted on 09/10/2004 6:05:52 AM PDT by Moleman
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To: hispanarepublicana

Blatant forgery. Someone needs to be reprimanded for this. It is sickening that the media is so desperate to elect Kerry they would stoop to this level. I expect that since its now known to be forged, Bush will gain another 2 or 3 points.


144 posted on 09/10/2004 6:23:28 AM PDT by RockinRight (Vote early, vote often)
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To: hispanarepublicana; Howlin
Connell said Killian did not type, and though he did take notes, they were usually on scraps of paper. "He was a person who did not take copious notes," she said. "He carried everything in his mind."

OK, this is the key comment. There is a very remote chance that a proportionally-spaced memo could have been produced by a rare typewriter back then. But it would have taken an expert typist to produce such a memo - not someone who didn't type in the first place.

145 posted on 09/10/2004 6:26:10 AM PDT by dirtboy (Kerry could have left 'Nam within a week if Purple Hearts were awarded for shots to the foot.)
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To: Deb
He couldn't TYPE!!!! Oh my God!!! Didn't those schmucks do even the most basic research??

Uh, Deb, these schucks could tell Kerry from Kerrey. Does that answer your question?

146 posted on 09/10/2004 6:28:26 AM PDT by dirtboy (Kerry could have left 'Nam within a week if Purple Hearts were awarded for shots to the foot.)
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To: JLS

if there is one thing the MSM loves to do more than attack conservatives, is to devour each other.


147 posted on 09/10/2004 6:35:06 AM PDT by epluribus_2
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To: Tax Government

From:

http://journal.aiga.org/content.cfm?ContentAlias=_getfullarticle&aid=%23.%5EG%2F%0A

Times Roman became an original core font for Apple in the 1980s and Times New Roman MT became one for Windows in the 1990s. (Ironically, at the same time IBM invited Frutiger to adapt Univers for the Selectric Typewriter, they asked Morison to do the same with Times New Roman.)


148 posted on 09/10/2004 6:39:35 AM PDT by jackbill
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To: Wil H

Why don't you FAX that to the President of CBS News:

Andrew Heyward -- CBS News
Title: President
Department: Headquarters
Phone: (212) 975-4321
Fax: (212) 975-1893
Address: 524 W 57th St, New York, NY 10019


149 posted on 09/10/2004 6:41:39 AM PDT by jackbill
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To: RetSignman

All your fonts are belong to us


150 posted on 09/10/2004 7:03:23 AM PDT by jriemer (We are a Republic not a Democracy)
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To: Azzurri
What readers will remember is not the story itself, but the photo will be seared in their memory forever.

Not only that, but they'll make the comparison between the picture of an optimistic looking George W. Bush, fighter pilot, in the cockpit of his airplane, and a scowling John Kerry in his fatigues giving testimony to Congress trashing Vets upon his return from Vietnam.

I'm LOVING this!

151 posted on 09/10/2004 7:16:32 AM PDT by SuziQ (Bush in 2004-Because we MUST!!!)
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To: jackbill

Times Roman is not Times Roman, etc. These fonts are implemented repeatedly, with variations, under the same and different names, by different manufacturers. It is not the name that matters, but the details of design.


152 posted on 09/10/2004 7:44:54 AM PDT by Tax Government (Before there is faith, there must be hope.)
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