General Staudt was retired!

Powerline ^ | Sept 9 2004 | Big Trunk

[Dog]

UPDATE 12: In the August 18, 1973 memo "discovered" by 60 Minutes, Jerry Killian purportedly writes:

Staudt has obviously pressured Hodges more about Bush. I'm having trouble running interference and doing my job. But wait! Reader Amar Sarwal points out that General Staudt, who thought very highly of Lt. Bush, retired in 1972.

The more I look at these "memos," the more obvious it appears that they are inept forgeries.

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[Koblenz]

How do we know this guy retired in 1972? One newspaper article won't cut it. Newspapers often get stuff wrong: just look at these docs.

[MistyCA]

yes, I watch Fox too, but some of their programming has been disheartening. I absolutely hate it when Rita Cosby comes up with all her supposed "Exclusives!" Oh well. I guess nothing is perfect! :)

[MistyCA]

Whoa! I would have a real problem with that....being in the midst of liberals.....without starting a classroom for the braindead! :) Good luck to you! Come here for your respites! :)

[Noumenon]

They are so busted. Looks as if the fun's just beginning.

[An.American.Expatriate]

Maybe it's already been said, but even a retired general can bring a lot of pressure to bear! I believe that these memo's stink to high heaven, but the phrase itself isn't a "gotcha" IMHO.

[BigSkyFreeper]

Absolutely hilarious! My sides have been aching all day! I wish the Dems would just implode already, get it over with! I don't know how much more laughter I can take.

[earonthief]

Thanks for the ping. I"ve be out all day, but caught some Mack Christopher about Ben Barns on the way to work. The Dems are shooting themselves is the foot with both barrels.

It's Beautiful

[Swordmaker]

It could do special symbols if the typist went back and changed out the rotating ball. But it still is using modern Times Roman for Word Processors and not the typewriter Times New Roman common in 1972.

From WWW.SELECTRIC.ORG, the Selectric Typewriter Museum:

Sorry, but due to excessive hits, this page is temporarily out of service. 

Please check back after the election.

For those who want my opinion...the documents appear to be done in Word, and then copied repeatedly to make them "fuzzy".  They use features that were not available on office typewriters the 1970s, specifically the combination of proportional spacing with superscript font.  The IBM Executive has proportional spacing, but used fixed type bars.  The Selectric has changeable type elements, but fixed spacing (some models could be selected at 10 or 12 pitch, but that's all).  The Selectric Composer was not an office typewriter, but apparently did use proportional spacing.  These were very expensive machines, used by printing offices, not administrative offices.

Here are scans of the Courier 12 font,

and the Prestige Elite 72 font. 

Both were commonly used, and are sort of close to the font in the documents, but not quite.  Notice that they are not proportionally spaced, so the typing looks very different from that on the memos.  There is a superscript available for numbers, as used with footnotes, on the Symbol type balls.  These balls were generally used for academics, such as preparing scientific and mathematical papers.  I can find no "th" superscript in any of the IBM literature I have.

These are scans from a mid-1970s IBM Selectric Typewriter Type Styles brochure, IBM publication G542-0053-7, which does not appear to be explicitly copywrited.

update:  I dragged my Executive up from the basement, it's not working too well...but I did type some of the 19 may 72 memo.  It doesn't fit on the page using a real vintage proportional spacing typewriter...and it looks different.

At least my low opinion of TV news remains intact.

[RGVTx]

Oh for sure. I've been coming here much longer than my member date shows. I spend more time here than anywhere else. I mean...I'm not stupid, just having some fun with the lefty libs. FR is home.

[DaiHuy]

I heard tonight that these documents, "obtained from the Whitehouse", were actually given to the WH by SeeBS, then the WH gave them back with no comment. Can anyone verify this?

[Brownie74]

Thanks for the ping. I can't stand CBS, 60 Minutes, or Dan Rather.

I've been trying to keep up with all of the other threads also. I hope the documents prove to be a forgery and CBS and Dan Rather go down the tubes for this.

Keep me posted and thanks again.

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[Mike Fieschko]

I heard tonight that these documents, "obtained from the Whitehouse", were actually given to the WH by SeeBS, then the WH gave them back with no comment. Can anyone verify this?

That's the story I've heard.

CBS sent them to the WH, which then made them available to the Old Media.

The WH did not vouch for the memso' authenticity.

[igoramus987]

update: I dragged my Executive up from the basement, it's not working too well...but I did type some of the 19 may 72 memo. It doesn't fit on the page using a real vintage proportional spacing typewriter...and it looks different.

At least my low opinion of TV news remains intact.

It keeps getting better and better. Do you have a special "th" superscript key on it?

[MistyCA]

Awesome, huh?

[MistyCA]

Good! Whew! I was worried!!! :)

[MistyCA]

I never watch the alphabet channels. I am actually sorry I didn't see 60 minutes. I hope Fox shows the apology that comes when this is verifed to the point where Rather MUST respond. :)

[earonthief]

I keep pinchin' myself.

[Swordmaker]

Poor CBS, they really stepped into it...

...after depositing there themselves!

[Swordmaker]

It keeps getting better and better. Do you have a special "th" superscript key on it?

It is not I that has a IBM Selectric in the basement (however I did use one extensively in 1972-1974) but the owner of www.selectric.org. He has had so many hits that he has taken most of his site down and left the statement above.

[Jack of all Trades]

Thanks for the pings.

The latest smears from the Kerry camp smack of either pure desperation, or a setup by the Hillary.