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General Staudt was retired!
Powerline ^ | Sept 9 2004 | Big Trunk

Posted on 09/09/2004 4:34:07 PM PDT by Dog

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To: Dog

How do we know this guy retired in 1972? One newspaper article won't cut it. Newspapers often get stuff wrong: just look at these docs.


441 posted on 09/09/2004 11:00:58 PM PDT by Koblenz (Not bad, not bad at all. -- Ronald Reagan, the Greatest President.)
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To: Original Kamaaina

yes, I watch Fox too, but some of their programming has been disheartening. I absolutely hate it when Rita Cosby comes up with all her supposed "Exclusives!" Oh well. I guess nothing is perfect! :)


442 posted on 09/09/2004 11:07:46 PM PDT by MistyCA
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To: RGVTx

Whoa! I would have a real problem with that....being in the midst of liberals.....without starting a classroom for the braindead! :) Good luck to you! Come here for your respites! :)


443 posted on 09/09/2004 11:09:54 PM PDT by MistyCA
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To: Lurker

They are so busted. Looks as if the fun's just beginning.


444 posted on 09/09/2004 11:16:19 PM PDT by Noumenon (The Left's dedication to the destruction of a free society makes them unfit to live in that society.)
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To: Dog

Maybe it's already been said, but even a retired general can bring a lot of pressure to bear! I believe that these memo's stink to high heaven, but the phrase itself isn't a "gotcha" IMHO.


445 posted on 09/09/2004 11:32:18 PM PDT by An.American.Expatriate (A vote for JF'nK is a vote for Peace in our Time!)
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To: Howlin

Absolutely hilarious! My sides have been aching all day! I wish the Dems would just implode already, get it over with! I don't know how much more laughter I can take.


446 posted on 09/09/2004 11:35:47 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Real gun control is - all shots inside the ten ring)
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To: MistyCA
Thanks for the ping. I"ve be out all day, but caught some Mack Christopher about Ben Barns on the way to work. The Dems are shooting themselves is the foot with both barrels.

It's Beautiful

447 posted on 09/09/2004 11:42:57 PM PDT by earonthief (I never was good at following instructions)
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To: Bogey78O
It could do special symbols if the typist went back and changed out the rotating ball. But it still is using modern Times Roman for Word Processors and not the typewriter Times New Roman common in 1972.

From WWW.SELECTRIC.ORG, the Selectric Typewriter Museum:

Sorry, but due to excessive hits, this page is temporarily out of service. 

Please check back after the election.

For those who want my opinion...the documents appear to be done in Word, and then copied repeatedly to make them "fuzzy".  They use features that were not available on office typewriters the 1970s, specifically the combination of proportional spacing with superscript font.  The IBM Executive has proportional spacing, but used fixed type bars.  The Selectric has changeable type elements, but fixed spacing (some models could be selected at 10 or 12 pitch, but that's all).  The Selectric Composer was not an office typewriter, but apparently did use proportional spacing.  These were very expensive machines, used by printing offices, not administrative offices.

Here are scans of the Courier 12 font,

and the Prestige Elite 72 font. 

Both were commonly used, and are sort of close to the font in the documents, but not quite.  Notice that they are not proportionally spaced, so the typing looks very different from that on the memos.  There is a superscript available for numbers, as used with footnotes, on the Symbol type balls.  These balls were generally used for academics, such as preparing scientific and mathematical papers.  I can find no "th" superscript in any of the IBM literature I have.

These are scans from a mid-1970s IBM Selectric Typewriter Type Styles brochure, IBM publication G542-0053-7, which does not appear to be explicitly copywrited.

update:  I dragged my Executive up from the basement, it's not working too well...but I did type some of the 19 may 72 memo.  It doesn't fit on the page using a real vintage proportional spacing typewriter...and it looks different.

At least my low opinion of TV news remains intact.


448 posted on 09/10/2004 12:11:12 AM PDT by Swordmaker (This tagline shut down for renovations and repairs. Re-open June of 2001.)
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To: MistyCA

Oh for sure. I've been coming here much longer than my member date shows. I spend more time here than anywhere else. I mean...I'm not stupid, just having some fun with the lefty libs. FR is home.


449 posted on 09/10/2004 12:18:44 AM PDT by RGVTx
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To: Petronski

I heard tonight that these documents, "obtained from the Whitehouse", were actually given to the WH by SeeBS, then the WH gave them back with no comment. Can anyone verify this?


450 posted on 09/10/2004 12:25:26 AM PDT by DaiHuy (God Bless America and God Damn John Kerry)
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To: MistyCA
Thanks for the ping. I can't stand CBS, 60 Minutes, or Dan Rather.

I've been trying to keep up with all of the other threads also. I hope the documents prove to be a forgery and CBS and Dan Rather go down the tubes for this.

Keep me posted and thanks again.

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451 posted on 09/10/2004 12:36:09 AM PDT by Brownie74
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To: DaiHuy
I heard tonight that these documents, "obtained from the Whitehouse", were actually given to the WH by SeeBS, then the WH gave them back with no comment. Can anyone verify this?

That's the story I've heard.

CBS sent them to the WH, which then made them available to the Old Media.

The WH did not vouch for the memso' authenticity.
452 posted on 09/10/2004 12:36:51 AM PDT by Mike Fieschko (Oh, and Dick Cheney too.)
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To: Swordmaker
update: I dragged my Executive up from the basement, it's not working too well...but I did type some of the 19 may 72 memo. It doesn't fit on the page using a real vintage proportional spacing typewriter...and it looks different.

At least my low opinion of TV news remains intact.


It keeps getting better and better. Do you have a special "th" superscript key on it?
453 posted on 09/10/2004 12:39:38 AM PDT by igoramus987
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To: earonthief

Awesome, huh?


454 posted on 09/10/2004 12:43:14 AM PDT by MistyCA
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To: RGVTx

Good! Whew! I was worried!!! :)


455 posted on 09/10/2004 12:44:12 AM PDT by MistyCA
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To: Brownie74

I never watch the alphabet channels. I am actually sorry I didn't see 60 minutes. I hope Fox shows the apology that comes when this is verifed to the point where Rather MUST respond. :)


456 posted on 09/10/2004 12:46:55 AM PDT by MistyCA
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To: MistyCA

I keep pinchin' myself.


457 posted on 09/10/2004 12:47:59 AM PDT by earonthief (I never was good at following instructions)
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To: DB
Poor CBS, they really stepped into it...

...after depositing there themselves!

458 posted on 09/10/2004 1:07:49 AM PDT by Swordmaker (This tagline shut down for renovations and repairs. Re-open June of 2001.)
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To: igoramus987
It keeps getting better and better. Do you have a special "th" superscript key on it?

It is not I that has a IBM Selectric in the basement (however I did use one extensively in 1972-1974) but the owner of www.selectric.org. He has had so many hits that he has taken most of his site down and left the statement above.

459 posted on 09/10/2004 1:13:23 AM PDT by Swordmaker (This tagline shut down for renovations and repairs. Re-open June of 2001.)
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To: MistyCA

Thanks for the pings.

The latest smears from the Kerry camp smack of either pure desperation, or a setup by the Hillary.


460 posted on 09/10/2004 1:44:25 AM PDT by Jack of all Trades
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