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General Staudt was retired!
Powerline ^ | Sept 9 2004 | Big Trunk

Posted on 09/09/2004 4:34:07 PM PDT by Dog

UPDATE 12: In the August 18, 1973 memo "discovered" by 60 Minutes, Jerry Killian purportedly writes:

Staudt has obviously pressured Hodges more about Bush. I'm having trouble running interference and doing my job. But wait! Reader Amar Sarwal points out that General Staudt, who thought very highly of Lt. Bush, retired in 1972.

The more I look at these "memos," the more obvious it appears that they are inept forgeries.

Posted by The Big Trunk at 07:51 AM | Permalink | TrackBack (212)


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 60minutes; kerryistoast; killian; mapes; rather
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To: A CA Guy
How were these found?

If in the Pentagon or on some base, there is a major security breach to investigate.


CBS hasn't yet said, except to claim that at one point at some time, they were in the officer's personal file.

They haven't provided the chain of custody, which is something you need to show if you want to use a document in court as evidence.

That is a separate requirement from showing that the document is authentic, and separate from showing who created the document.
161 posted on 09/09/2004 5:37:32 PM PDT by Mike Fieschko (Oh, and Dick Cheney too.)
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To: faithincowboys
"Staudt is still alive, I think we need a new 527 ad folks"

. I think something like this would work:

"The Commander in Chief during wartime is not immune from criticsm, but planting forged documents in the file of a dead man, my friend Jerry Killian, and using it as a pretext to undercut the Commander in Chief in a time of war is too much for this Old Soldier to sit by and watch.... "

That's a pretty good start....

That, my friend, is an EXCELLENT START!

Anyone know a swift boat address? Perhaps they could contact this living Colonel and find out if he is as outraged and anxious to get this news out to our fellow citizens as WE ARE!!! A new 527 devoted to outing the MSM lies is a GOOD THING!

162 posted on 09/09/2004 5:37:48 PM PDT by Republic (Terri Schiavo,saved by TERRI's LAW after 7 days of starvation, fights ACLU-Felos to keep law intact)
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To: savedbygrace
But CBS investigated these memos

Rather checked it out himself

163 posted on 09/09/2004 5:37:48 PM PDT by alrea (Help Wanted: State of New Jersey Director of Homeland Security. Must be experienced and HOT.)
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To: Dog
Kerry: Dan, you have to get me something I can work with, not this half a** forgery. Where is that girl that Bush knocked up and then paid for the abortion, what about the Camp David cocaine incident, come on, I am dying here.
164 posted on 09/09/2004 5:38:32 PM PDT by lt.america (Captain was already taken)
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To: mountaineer
Har! I never heard the term flying monkey associated with Terry McAwful but it sure does fit! Thanks for the laugh ... or was it a clarification? :)
165 posted on 09/09/2004 5:38:45 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Kerry was in the Senate???)
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To: McGavin999
BOY, does this make CBS look like a bunch of amateurs!

Only if it makes the light of day...which is doubtful.

166 posted on 09/09/2004 5:39:02 PM PDT by ErnBatavia ("Dork"; a 60's term for a 60's kinda guy: JFK)
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To: Timeout

Heh. We're moving up!


167 posted on 09/09/2004 5:40:01 PM PDT by Howlin (What's the Font Spacing, Kenneth?)
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To: They'reGone2000

Dang! Every time my stomach get's settled down, someone springs yet another picture of something disgusting! That woman is truly disgusting!


168 posted on 09/09/2004 5:40:15 PM PDT by MistyCA
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To: Dog; MistyCA

Maybe ... Staudt retired BEFORE HE DIDN'T. < |:)~


169 posted on 09/09/2004 5:40:21 PM PDT by martin_fierro (A v v n c v l v s M a x i m v s)
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To: maggiefluffs

Tagline.


170 posted on 09/09/2004 5:40:57 PM PDT by Petronski (I'd like to volunteer to build a barn and take you press guys out behind it and kick your asses.)
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To: SeaDragon

No joke. This is really starting to be fun... wish I still ate popcorn, I'd get me a bag!


171 posted on 09/09/2004 5:41:01 PM PDT by RikaStrom (Involved vs. Committed- take bacon and eggs, for example, the hen is involved, the pig is committed.)
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To: Sloth

Ohh hell, that was too much, coffee and bagel spewed all over. That is so funny, the old media will have a cow when an old autheticated looking USN document concerning those two hits the net big time.


172 posted on 09/09/2004 5:41:10 PM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: alrea
That CBS did not mention tonight that the memo may be forged is almost unforgiveable. Absolutely in your face, screw you and I'll LIE if I want to bold.

We need to pressure them over at CBS, call into talk radio tomorrow, raise the awareness of our fellow citizens and demand retraction or DEMAND an FCC investigation, BACKED BY OUR CONGRESS.

173 posted on 09/09/2004 5:41:12 PM PDT by Republic (Terri Schiavo,saved by TERRI's LAW after 7 days of starvation, fights ACLU-Felos to keep law intact)
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To: Petronski
Welcome Mr. Rather.

We are updating our accounts, and have discovered yours is in jeopardy and you will not be able to broadcast on CBS if you do not update it immediately.

Please send all of your sensitive personal information, such passwords or bank account numbers.

174 posted on 09/09/2004 5:41:16 PM PDT by Rocko (The Dems will have "Bush Stole the Election!" put on their tombstones.)
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To: swheats

Mine too!


175 posted on 09/09/2004 5:41:31 PM PDT by MistyCA
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To: nopardons
Whoever did this hatchet job,was a lousy forger,who was SO clumsy,that debunking it is proving to be easy and a great "game"! CBS was so damned stupid!

It looks a little too "clumsy", no? The question now is: who provided these docs? The family has denied providing them. CBS needs to fess up or admit they created the hoax out of thin air. Then let's see if the FCC has anything to say about yanking their license.

176 posted on 09/09/2004 5:41:46 PM PDT by randog (What the....?!)
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To: MistyCA

Thank you for the ping! It just keeps getting worse for the 'Rats, doesn't it?


177 posted on 09/09/2004 5:42:33 PM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: Dog

Tell it to the President of CBS News, Andrew Heyward.

Andrew Heyward -- CBS News
Title: President
Department: Headquarters
Phone: (212) 975-4321
Fax: (212) 975-1893
Address: 524 W 57th St, New York, NY 10019

FAX him. Load his desk tomorrow morning. My FAX is already there.

I basically asked him if he was satisfied having his reputation dependent on Dan Rather and the folks at 60 Minutes.


178 posted on 09/09/2004 5:42:46 PM PDT by jackbill
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To: Mike Fieschko

Thanks, I wondered, if someone claims these came about by way of the 180 that Bush signed, then government sources WOULD have been tampered with and the "SH!T will hit the fan."

GRAPHIC NEEDED PLEASE!!!!


179 posted on 09/09/2004 5:43:19 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: MistyCA

Thanks for the ping Misty. Brit Hume is tracking this ever so closely with a jaundice view as to their authenticity. If anyone will get to the bottom of it, I'm confident he will.


180 posted on 09/09/2004 5:43:28 PM PDT by StarFan
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