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ONE MORE ARGUMENT (CBS Documents)
National Review ^ | 9-9-04

Posted on 09/09/2004 4:30:35 PM PDT by ambrose

ONE MORE ARGUMENT

As much as the Kerry Spot has tried to keep up with this, PowerLine has been on top of this story all day long. That site just presented what ought to be the straw that breaks the camel's back:

In the August 18, 1973 memo "discovered" by 60 Minutes, Jerry Killian purportedly writes:

Staudt has obviously pressured Hodges more about Bush. I'm having trouble running interference and doing my job.

But wait! Reader Amar Sarwal points out that General Staudt, who thought very highly of Lt. Bush, retired in 1972.

Okay, CBS. The ball's in your court. Explain all this. Make all of this make sense. Don't completely ignore all of this, like you just did on the CBS Evening News.

If CBS ignores this, and gives no counterargument, no defense, then the general public will have no choice but to conclude that the network ran with a hoax - and now refuses to retract a lie.

[Posted 09/09 07:11 PM]


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To: TexasCowboy

Dan flunked out of Marine Basic training.


81 posted on 09/09/2004 5:20:16 PM PDT by Carolinamom
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To: mewzilla

Piltdan...Piltdown....more like MELTDOWN!


82 posted on 09/09/2004 5:20:16 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Diogenesis

#29

Lets also not forget, even on Interoffice Memos, there were
always routing and filing instructions

ie..

cc: XXXX
file:
orig:

None of these are present in any of them. On virtually every bit of correspondence that I have, any admin type worth his salt could tell
who got a copy, where the original was files, the originator, and other
clues about the document.

Perhaps one of the ex-admin types could expound on the subject.


83 posted on 09/09/2004 5:20:42 PM PDT by Klutz Dohanger
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To: dalebert

Easy. They were so eager to get something damaging about Bush that when something showed up from someone with seemingly good credentials, they ran with it instead of verifying it.

In short, the dumbasses were fooled by dumbasses.


84 posted on 09/09/2004 5:20:47 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (God is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: 6SJ7; ambrose; Travis McGee


Ah, the typewriter

But that's another fakeroo area


Kerry sure is consistent in his oddball scams and sneaky methods



85 posted on 09/09/2004 5:20:51 PM PDT by devolve ( -- John"V"Kerry scams Boston Irish voters! - http://pro.lookingat.us/FakeIrish.html --)
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To: TexasCowboy

Dan flunked out of Marine Basic training.


86 posted on 09/09/2004 5:20:55 PM PDT by Carolinamom
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult
LOL!!!

Hillary's fingerprints are all over this scam...and her objections will be met...Kerry's going DOWN over this!!

87 posted on 09/09/2004 5:21:47 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
or as someone else noted here,

Piltdown Dan


88 posted on 09/09/2004 5:29:42 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (Santorum 2008)
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To: litany_of_lies
But I believe the military has a strong tradition that once you're retired, you get the bleep out of the way and don't interfere.

Military FReepers, feel free to confirm or deny.


Concur. However, even I have been "consulted" from my old unit once or twice, but only on specific items, and things that needed to be taken care of, that apparently I was the one with the "corporate knowlege". Fortunately, that only happened a couple of times, and I think mostly they have forgotten I exist(ed) (thank goodness :)).
89 posted on 09/09/2004 5:30:10 PM PDT by Rick.Donaldson (There are 10 kinds of people in the world. Those who understand binary and those who don't.)
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To: All
Freep the CBS Evening News, where Dan Rather's office is based....this gets you to the newsroom:

212-975-3691

Number found on this thread: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1133594/posts

Ask just what "investigation" went into authenticating the memos and whether they will offer an on-air retraction.

Demand they apologize for this EXTREME lapse of journalistic practice and basic skills.

Also, contact the president of CBS News, Andrew Heyward:

Phone: (212) 975-4321

Fax: (212) 975-1893

90 posted on 09/09/2004 5:31:58 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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To: Chieftain; MeekOneGOP; potlatch; ntnychik; Happy2BMe; PhilDragoo; Mia T; onyx; weegee; ambrose; ...

     Walter gestures hypnotically........








John "V" Kerry now admits he was at the VVAW Executive Steering Committee Meeting in Kansas City, Missouri from November 12-15, 1971

This was John "V" Kerry's
first US Senate vote.

Kerry claims he voted "Nay".

Isn't that special!





THE GREAT PRETENDER



KILLIAN'S ISLAND?

BARNES' DOOR?

KELLEY'S HEROS?

ROBINSON'S CRUSADE?

RATHER BUYASSED?


91 posted on 09/09/2004 5:34:11 PM PDT by devolve ( -- John"V"Kerry scams Boston Irish voters! - http://pro.lookingat.us/FakeIrish.html --)
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To: proudmilitarymrs

Tell it to the President of CBS News, Andrew Heyward.

Andrew Heyward -- CBS News
Title: President
Department: Headquarters
Phone: (212) 975-4321
Fax: (212) 975-1893
Address: 524 W 57th St, New York, NY 10019

FAX him. Load his desk tomorrow morning. My FAX is already there.

I basically asked him if he was satisfied having his reputation dependent on Dan Rather and the folks at 60 Minutes.


92 posted on 09/09/2004 5:39:07 PM PDT by jackbill
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To: Republic

May I offer a suggestion. Simply don't watch ABC, NBC and CBS. And God forbid you should ever watch CNN. We stopped watching them about five years ago. When we discovered FoxNews we were delighted and only watch them now. Of course, our favorite is FreeRepublic - the best of the best!


93 posted on 09/09/2004 5:42:00 PM PDT by maxwellp (Throw the U.N. in the garbage where it belongs.)
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To: bad company
Fox also reported that the guy (Killian) who supposedly wrote these emails, wrote a glowing commendation for Bush just 2 weeks after these are dated. So that shoots CBS new theory that spoke with others that confirm Killian felt this way at the time. Then again, maybe Killian was being forced to write the glowing commendation by the evil Bush family.

I just cannot believe how poor the forgeries are. My concern is that we will never be able to prove this and CBS will never back down. All these folks who think Dan is going to be fired or quit are just dreaming. The most you will get from CBS is that they can no longer confirm whether these are authenic or not, but stick with their original story.

94 posted on 09/09/2004 5:49:52 PM PDT by gswilder
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To: Chieftain

This is really bad, thank God for the internet. They must have more of this kind of crap in the wings just waiting to unleash a blizzard in October. The sheeple may not be able to absorb all the incoming propaganda waves fromthe Socialist Media.

The internals for Kerry must be worse than we know for them to be unleashing this at this time.

I am sure there is more to come.

Remember Kerry and the Democrats have deep ties the International Communist's community.


95 posted on 09/09/2004 5:56:47 PM PDT by stockpirate (Dick Morris; Before he spoke, supporting Bush was a duty one owed to the fallen. Now, it is an honor)
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To: Carolinamom
"Dan flunked out of Marine Basic training."

I should have known that.

That makes me very happy!
Thank you!

96 posted on 09/09/2004 6:06:02 PM PDT by TexasCowboy
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To: TexasCowboy

I'm having so much fun today with this, I don't want it to end!

Flunked Basic training - now I can go to sleep happy. It does seem to get better and better, doesn't it?


97 posted on 09/09/2004 6:12:47 PM PDT by SusaninOhio
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To: ambrose

"60 Minutes" is all it took to debunk the story.


98 posted on 09/09/2004 6:25:32 PM PDT by nonkultur
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To: ambrose

Bump!


99 posted on 09/09/2004 6:28:47 PM PDT by Renfield (Philosophy chair at the University of Wallamalloo!!)
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To: ambrose
My sweet Lord, CBS caught in the BIG LIE.

I've been incommunicado all day.

Rather commit seppuku yet?

100 posted on 09/09/2004 6:32:52 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (GIVE'M HELL, ZELL!)
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