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ONE MORE ARGUMENT (CBS Documents)
National Review ^ | 9-9-04

Posted on 09/09/2004 4:30:35 PM PDT by ambrose

ONE MORE ARGUMENT

As much as the Kerry Spot has tried to keep up with this, PowerLine has been on top of this story all day long. That site just presented what ought to be the straw that breaks the camel's back:

In the August 18, 1973 memo "discovered" by 60 Minutes, Jerry Killian purportedly writes:

Staudt has obviously pressured Hodges more about Bush. I'm having trouble running interference and doing my job.

But wait! Reader Amar Sarwal points out that General Staudt, who thought very highly of Lt. Bush, retired in 1972.

Okay, CBS. The ball's in your court. Explain all this. Make all of this make sense. Don't completely ignore all of this, like you just did on the CBS Evening News.

If CBS ignores this, and gives no counterargument, no defense, then the general public will have no choice but to conclude that the network ran with a hoax - and now refuses to retract a lie.

[Posted 09/09 07:11 PM]


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004electionbias; 60minutes; barnes; benbarnes; brownshirtsforkerry; bush; bushmemos; cbsmemos; ccrm; danrather; dirtytricks; dncliars; forged; forgeries; forgery; fraud; hoax; hoaxmemos; kerrycampaign; killian; libel; lyingliars; mediabias; nationalguard; ratherbiased; rattricks; seebsnews; slander; smearcampaign; snopes; snopesmia; texasnationalguard
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To: Diogenesis
no letterhead

When I was in the reserves, we always has yhe oldest (worse) equipment, including office machines. But one thing we ALWAYS HAD, was letter head stationary!

41 posted on 09/09/2004 4:46:42 PM PDT by 11th_VA (While Kerry lied, good men died ...)
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To: Thanatos

I'll play the DUer here so we can cover all the bases.. Is it possible Staudt could have influenced Hodges after he retired? Favor for an old pal?


42 posted on 09/09/2004 4:47:15 PM PDT by Callahan
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To: All

The sickening horror of laying this upon one of our veterans, a dead man, and doing this to discredit a PRESIDENT of our NATION is just beyond belief!


43 posted on 09/09/2004 4:47:46 PM PDT by Republic (Terri Schiavo,saved by TERRI's LAW after 7 days of starvation, fights ACLU-Felos to keep law intact)
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To: buwaya

I remember GW saying in 2000 that he picked the Guard because they needed pilots and he wanted to fly that particular jet, so he signed up for 6 years instead of 2 or 4.


44 posted on 09/09/2004 4:47:49 PM PDT by Deb (Lee Harvey Oswald Served With Honor.)
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To: tomnbeverly

It seems to me that forging Government documents is likely a Federal crime, not just egregious reporting. I think CBS should have to defend their own behavior, and should have to reveal the document source to the FBI for a criminal investigation.


45 posted on 09/09/2004 4:48:36 PM PDT by JustaCowgirl
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

This will go down as one of history's great hoaxes.

Keep the pressure on-make damn sure the MSM reports this story.

Sounds like it's time for Danny Boy to take "Early retirement." All together now: NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA HEY HEY GOODBYE


46 posted on 09/09/2004 4:48:58 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (CBS Lied, Dan Rather Is Fried.)
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To: ElkGroveDan
Today, the word Piltdown is a term of abuse, used to label any fraudulent or shoddy research.

That one ranks right up there with Michael Bellisle and the recently-added Douglas Brinkley frauds.

47 posted on 09/09/2004 4:49:19 PM PDT by Bob
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To: WestVirginiaRebel

48 posted on 09/09/2004 4:50:11 PM PDT by bootyist-monk (<--------------------- Republican Attack Machine)
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To: litany_of_lies
I'll deny it, but it really depends on who you are. Many retired Officers perform consulting duties with the military. However, it is doubtful in this case that the General referenced in the forgery was ever there. Dollars to donuts, that guy is dead too.
49 posted on 09/09/2004 4:50:52 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: ambrose

BTTT


50 posted on 09/09/2004 4:51:44 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: bootyist-monk; All

Amar Sarwal did not find that info. Peter Nuss did. I know, because I am Amar sarwal. I just passed along the link below to powerline.

http://www.kloognome.com/archives/001112.php

Credit belongs to Peter Nuss, not me.


51 posted on 09/09/2004 4:52:15 PM PDT by amordei
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To: Diogenesis; Warrior Nurse; Taxman; Veritas et equitas ad Votum; krunkygirl; Dutchgirl; OXENinFLA; ..
Stick a fork in Rather and SEE BS, they're done!

On the bright side Dan, now you can work FULL TIME for Kerry! No more messing with that fake 'news' job anymore.

Oops... now you don't have a forum to spew the propaganda! Oh, well Kerry will trot you out with the Kerry Krew Butt Boys!

What the hell Dan, you were a Marine, just stretch it a little bit and tell the DemocRAT sheeple that you were sending SECRET radio signals to Kerry and he was on his way to get you when Rassmann fell off! Yeah that's the ticket - SECRET radio signals!

Yeah that's the ticket!

52 posted on 09/09/2004 4:52:16 PM PDT by Chieftain (Support the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth and expose Hanoi John's FRAUD!)
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To: Rep-for-real
One of the greatest hoaxes in modern history.
53 posted on 09/09/2004 4:52:48 PM PDT by oblomov
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To: ambrose

from DU


skypilot (1000+ posts) Thu Sep-09-04 10:46 AM
Response to Original message

4. If they were forgeries...


...someone other than a dumbass freeper would have figured that out by now. Jesus, we are in the 21st century we don't need some goofy ass freeper to figure out if something is real or not. There are professionals out there that are very good at these things.


54 posted on 09/09/2004 4:52:55 PM PDT by woofie (What Do You Call a Boomerang That Doesn't work? ...a stick)
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To: OXENinFLA

No wait! Don't laugh. We should all be just as ""outraged"" as the leftist Dems have been over the Swiftboat Vets' accusations. Uh.....ah....oh....hell.

Bwa ha ha ha ha ha hahaaaaaaa!!!!!!!


55 posted on 09/09/2004 4:53:41 PM PDT by Capricam
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To: Republic
Your outrage is well placed and justified.

I'm sure when I get control again of myself I'll get mad about the fraud SeeBS (and the rest of the MSM) have perpetrated, but right now, laughter has overwhelmed me because of this fiasco.

56 posted on 09/09/2004 4:56:56 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: Joe Marine 76

*** "What did Dan Rather know and when did he know it?" ***

HE KNEW IT WAS A FORGERY AS HE WAS TYPING IT UP ON HIS COMPUTER! THAT'S ALSO WHY THERE AREN'T ANY SECRETARIES INITIALS ON IT, BECAUSE HE WANTED TO DO THIS HATCHET JOB ON BUSH HIMSELF.

IF HE HAD HIS SECRETARY DO IT, WE MIGHT HAVE NEVER CAUGHT ALL THIS! I IMAGINE SHE'S GOT MORE SMARTS THAN THAT!


57 posted on 09/09/2004 4:59:18 PM PDT by woodb01 (Start a call, writing, fax, and e-mail campaign to discourage CBS advertisers~)
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To: ambrose

I don't believe ole dan thought it was a hoax. He's such a rabid Bush hater that he would have run with anything other than the truth. He's just getting so old that he can't remember that the internet will catch his lies now.


58 posted on 09/09/2004 5:00:04 PM PDT by freeangel (freeangel)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

CBS new motto;

Fact checkers. Never had em, never will.



CBS newer motto;

We had fact checkers, before we didn't!

I am loving this!!!

FreeRepublic Rocks!


59 posted on 09/09/2004 5:01:32 PM PDT by proudmilitarymrs (If you can read this, thank a teacher. If you are reading it in English, thank a soldier.)
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To: Flashman_at_the_charge

*** How about the "Bush Is Hitler Diaries"? ***

Weren't those diaries written by Hitler in the late 30's, before his full rise to power and about the time Bush was born? I think I heard that from Dan Rather too... You know, he's so smart that man, I really admire him ;~#)

Hahahaha, it's about time CBS bit the dust!!! And the AP type stonewalling only makes them look even worse!!


60 posted on 09/09/2004 5:01:41 PM PDT by woodb01 (Start a call, writing, fax, and e-mail campaign to discourage CBS advertisers~)
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