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Vet: Kerry coerced me to testify of atrocities...
WorldNet Daily ^ | 9-8-04 | World Net Daily Editorial

Posted on 09/08/2004 8:51:41 AM PDT by Bob J

MISSION: IMPLAUSIBLE

Vet: Kerry coerced me to testify of atrocities Renounces participation in 1971 'Winter Soldier Investigation'

A combat veteran who testified to war crimes during the 1971 "Winter Soldier Investigation" has filed an affidavit claiming John Kerry and other leaders of Vietnam Veterans Against the War coerced him into making false claims.

Steve Pitkin during 1971 Winter Soldier Investigation (wintersoldier.com)

Steve Pitkin, who was 20 at the time, says he rode from Washington, D.C., to Detroit in January 1971 with Kerry and another leader, Scott Camil, who had persuaded him to join in the probe that formed the basis of the future presidential candidate's testimony to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee later that year.

Pitkin's renunciation of his participation in the Detroit event was reported by Scott Swett, the primary author of WinterSoldier.com, which documents Kerry's role in VVAW. Swett also is the webmaster for the website of Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, the group of 254 veterans who contend their fomer colleague, Kerry, is unfit to be commander in chief.

On the second day of the Detroit conference, Pitkin said, he was surrounded by a group of the event's leaders, who said they needed more witnesses and wanted him to speak.

According to Swett, Pitkin protested he had nothing to say, prompting Kerry's response, "Surely you had to have seen some of the atrocities."

Swett writes:

Pitkin insisted that he hadn't, and the group's mood turned menacing. One of the other leaders leaned in and whispered, "It's a long walk back to Baltimore." Pitkin finally agreed to "testify." The Winter Soldier leaders told Pitkin exactly what they wanted – stories about rape, brutality, shooting prisoners and racism. Kerry assured him that "the American people will be grateful for what you have to say." SPONSORED LINKS Hot Political Gear Buy Kerry, Bush, and other election 2004 t-shirts, bumper stickers, hats, buttons, and more! Great selection, fast delivery. CafePress.com

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On Feb. 1, 1971, Pitkin gave the following testimony:

My name is Steve Pitkin, age 20, from Baltimore. I served with the 9th Division from May of '69 until I was airvaced in July of '69. I'll testify about the beating of civilians and enemy personnel, destruction of villages, indiscriminate use of artillery, the general racism and the attitude of the American GI toward the Vietnamese. I will also talk about some of the problems of the GIs toward one another and the hassle with officers. But with his new affidavit, Pitkin now is on the record saying he never intended to speak at the Winter Soldier Investigation, agreeing to come, recounts Swett, "mostly to support his fellow veterans, but also to see David Crosby and Graham Nash perform and hopefully meet a few girls. He didn't really have any place else to go."

In his affidavit, he insists he never saw American soldiers commit war crimes.

"I was just going to show support for the guys who were already picked out to testify," Pitkin said. "Fighting in the war was terrible enough – I shot people – but I never saw any atrocities against civilians. The Vietcong hung up tribal chiefs and disemboweled them in front of their own families – they did that to their own people. I never saw Americans do anything like that."

At the Detroit event, Pitkin said he watched for a day or so while his fellow VVAW members told stories of crimes they claimed to have committed or witnessed.

Swett says Pitkin noticed "other people, civilians, going around to the VVAW members and 'bombarding them, laying on the guilt,' as they told the veterans they had committed unspeakable crimes, but could make amends by testifying against the war."

Swett notes that unlike most members of Vietnam Veterans Against the War, Pitkin had seen combat in Vietnam.

He suffered wounds to both legs from a mortar attack that became infected, requiring him to be medivaced to an Army hospital in Okinawa. He left the Army with a Purple Heart, honorable discharge and a lifetime case of hepatitis C from the transfusions.

On his return to the U.S., at Travis Air Force Base in California, he was showered with feces thrown by anti-war protestors. Later, while in uniform waiting for a plane in San Francisco, people stopped to snarl obscenities and occasionally spit, Swett said. He received no hero's welcome upon his return home to Baltimore.

"I was in bad shape," Pitkin recalled. "My family was against the war, and so were all my old friends. I had things I wanted to say, but there was nobody to listen. I was angry at our government which should have known better than to let us die in a conflict it had no intention of winning, and I was furious at the American media for making us out to be baby-killers and telling lies about what they saw."

While taking classes at Catonsville Community College outside of Baltimore, Pitkin said he met Camil, who invited him to join the "brotherhood" of Vietnam veterans with Vietnam Veterans Against the War.

Pitkin, according to Swett, said he "had no inkling" that VVAW leaders were meeting with North Vietnamese and Vietcong representatives or that the VVAW consistently supported their positions.

He thought the VVAW was just an alternative to older organizations such as the VFW, where so many Vietnam vets felt unwelcome.

Pitkin appears in the documentary film "Winter Soldier," where, writes Swett, "he comes across as vague and somewhat stunned, especially while being questioned by John Kerry in a preliminary interview."

But Pitkin says today that what the film actually shows are his efforts to avoid answering Kerry's questions at all.

During the formal hearings, according to Swett, Pitkin started "to slam the press for misrepresenting what GIs really did in Vietnam, but a woman he believes was Jane Fonda shot him an astonished look and started to stand up. Steve could see other members of the group getting ready to cut him off, so he changed course and made up a few things he thought they would be willing to accept."

Pitkin now states: "Everything I said about atrocities and racism was a lie. My unit never went out with the intention of doing anything but its job. And I never saw black soldiers treated differently, get picked out for the worst or most dangerous jobs, or anything like that. There were some guys, shirkers, who would intentionally injure themselves to get sent home, so I talked about that for a while. But the fact is I lied my ass off, and I'm not proud of it. I didn't think it would ever amount to anything."

In April 1971, Pitkin went to Washington to check out the VVAW's weeklong "Dewey Canyon III" protest, where he "ran into a lot of guys who couldn’t answer questions about what unit they were in."

Pitkin said he "confronted protestors who were wearing or carrying Vietcong flags."

He was present for the "medal toss" Friday, in which Kerry and other veterans threw military decorations over a fence in front of the U.S. Capitol building.

Pitkin said he noticed most of the decorations were not for Vietnam combat veterans, and some, he remembered, were from the Korean War.

He claims he overheard remarks that the VVAW had cleaned out the local Army-Navy stores the day before.

"Disgusted," writes Swett, Pitkin "grabbed a handful of ribbons and threw them, not at the Capitol, but at the throng of reporters crowding close to the microphone, and stalked away."

After that event, Pitkin said he no longer was invited to VVAW meetings or events, which was fine with him, and he soon returned to the military, joining the Maryland National Guard in 1974 and graduating from paratrooper "jump school" with honors in 1976. He joined the Coast Guard in 1978 and served there until his retirement in May 1997.

Pitkin says he wants to apologize to Vietnam veterans for his actions and statements at the Winter Soldier Investigation.

"The VVAW found me during a difficult time in my life, and I let them use me to advance their political agenda," he said. "They pressured me to tell their lies, but that's no excuse for what I did. I just want people to know the truth and to make amends as best I can. I'd hate to see the troops serving today have to go through what Vietnam veterans did."

© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com


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To: xzins; Bob J

Thanks for the ping, xzins--and BobJ, thanks for posting this. It just keeps getting worse, doesn't it? I can't believe enough people would choose Kerry over Bush to be even measurable in a poll!


61 posted on 09/08/2004 1:55:39 PM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: comebacknewt

Maybe the swiftvets need to contact him?


62 posted on 09/08/2004 2:04:48 PM PDT by nomad
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To: Bob J

smooch to u and yours!


63 posted on 09/08/2004 2:41:52 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Bush Democrats = Zell's Angels)
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To: Owl_Eagle
Owl,
Where are you, bro? Check this out:
Swett notes that unlike most members of Vietnam Veterans Against the War, Pitkin had seen combat in Vietnam.

He suffered wounds to both legs from a mortar attack that became infected, requiring him to be medivaced to an Army hospital in Okinawa. He left the Army with a Purple Heart, honorable discharge and a lifetime case of hepatitis C from the transfusions.

In a rare twist on our fictional insider account tradition, I was actually there at the same time as Steve Pitkin, albeit as a little kid. The hospital was called Quey (sp? - pronounced koo-ee). I saw a lot of our soldiers there when I went in for my shots and vaccinations. They used to come up to my mother and brother and I just to talk to us, since they were mere kids themselves in some cases, some still teens, some missing limbs or their heads covered in bandages. I truly hate what Kerry did to these men, and can understand why many will go to their graves holding those grudges.

64 posted on 09/08/2004 2:54:59 PM PDT by HenryLeeII (sultan88, R.I.P.)
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To: HenryLeeII
Owl,
Where are you, bro?
 
Tryin' to roll four days work into two.  (also some weird stroies on CBS Sportsline today!)
 
When Kerry's tapes from the Cavitt show and in front of the Senate, he's going to come apart like a $2 watch.
 
All over but the shouting...
 
Owl_Eagle

”Guns Before Butter.”

65 posted on 09/08/2004 2:59:23 PM PDT by End Times Sentinel (Coalesce, Capitulate, Collaborate. The French Strategy.)
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To: Bob J

Mark Levin is going to have Pitkin on his show at 7:00 p.m. EST. WABC NYC


66 posted on 09/08/2004 3:15:43 PM PDT by abnegation (John Kerry makes any sane person ill.)
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To: Bob J
There were some guys, shirkers, who would intentionally injure themselves to get sent home, so I talked about that for a while.

Wonder if anybody's ears were burning...

67 posted on 09/08/2004 7:08:20 PM PDT by an amused spectator (Read John Kerry's new book: Mein Kampuchea)
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To: Califelephant

Similar to the Communist "re-education" process.


If you read any of the FBI files on www.wintersoldier.com, you'll see how, for example, in Gainesville, FL they were having a tough time getting kids to join VVAW. So they'd rent a farmhouse just outside town and tell the students there was going to be a rock concert. They'd bus them down, give out dope and play Chinese communist propaganda films. As a REAGAN-era college kid, that kind of blew me away. I was doing the gator and having toga parties, nothing so serious as turning communist. Thank goodness.


68 posted on 09/08/2004 7:16:28 PM PDT by campfollower (www.kerrylied.com -- D.C. Rally on 9-12 - be there!)
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To: Bob J
"...Jane Fonda shot him an astonished look and started to stand up. Steve could see other members of the group getting ready to cut him off, so he changed course and made up a few things he thought they would be willing to accept..."

Soooo... by way of explanation/apology he envokes the "I'm a pu$$y" defense? Hoping to get sympathy for being pathetic? Just makes him more despicable. 35 years is just too long. I guess his ammends makes him feel better.

69 posted on 09/08/2004 7:30:13 PM PDT by delacoert (imperat animus corpori, et paretur statim: imperat animus sibi, et resistitur. -AUGUSTINI)
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To: Bob J

bump


70 posted on 09/08/2004 7:51:21 PM PDT by meema
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To: xzins

It's more important for younger generations to read this than older generations. They will then see through the liberal slant of older socialists and communists, who now label themselves as democratic socialists for the fraud that was perpetuated over several generations by propaganda. They will also be better equipped to deal with domestic enemies of the Constitution who have advanced through our governmental infrastructure.


71 posted on 09/08/2004 7:51:59 PM PDT by Cvengr (;^))
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; xzins

Thanks for the pings!

Steve Pitkin's statements have been e-mailed en masse. :-)


72 posted on 09/09/2004 1:50:57 AM PDT by radu (May God watch over our troops and keep them safe)
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To: RightField

I think so.....for about 4 months ( or until they ran out of bandaids for his boo boo's ) :-)


73 posted on 09/09/2004 5:53:40 PM PDT by GeorgeW23225 (Liberals really aren*t bad people. It*s just that they know so much that simply ISN*T true!!)
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To: YaYa123

Kerry is dead. He just doesn't know it yet!!


74 posted on 09/09/2004 5:55:45 PM PDT by GeorgeW23225 (Liberals really aren*t bad people. It*s just that they know so much that simply ISN*T true!!)
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To: Bob J

PERHAPS

this is a good thread for a BUSH/SKERRY JOKE; HUMOR BREAK:




From: Greenwood David
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 1:57 PM
Subject: A Day at the Beach


On a tour of Texas, the Pope took a couple of days off to visit the coastal area for some sightseeing. He was cruising along the sea wall on Galveston Isle in his Pope mobile when suddenly he notices a frantic commotion just off shore.

There was John Kerry struggling frantically to free himself from the jaws of a 25-foot shark. As the Pope watched, horrified, a speedboat came racing up with two men aboard. One of the men, President George W. Bush quickly fired a harpoon into the shark's side while Dick
Cheney reached out and pulled the bleeding, semi-conscious John Kerry from the water. Then using autographed Round Rock Express) baseball
bats, the two heroes beat the shark to death and hauled it into the boat.

Immediately the Pope shouted and summoned them to the beach. "I give you my blessings for your brave actions," he told them. "I heard that there was some bitter hatred between President Bush and John Kerry, but now I have seen with my own eyes that this is not true."

As the Pope drove off, President Bush asked Dick "Who was that?"

"It was the Pope," Dick replied. "He is in direct contact with God and has all of God's wisdom."

"Well," President Bush said, "he may have access to God
's wisdom, but he doesn't know squat about shark fishing........

........how's the bait holding up?"


75 posted on 09/09/2004 5:57:15 PM PDT by Quix (PLEASE EMAIL ZELL MILLER AND OTHERS INSISTING HE SPEAK OUT LOTS)
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To: GeorgeW23225
er.....Dead Man Walking

I certainly hope so, but it's hard for me to believe CBS wouldn't have done it's homework on something this explosive. But tonight on Keith Olbreman(MSNBC), Dana Milbank of WashPost did say the speculation has clouded the impact of Rather's report.

76 posted on 09/09/2004 6:06:50 PM PDT by YaYa123 (@Inquiring Minds Should Demand To Know How CBS Got Those Documents.com)
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To: Bob J; Mo1; cyborg; nicmarlo; MeekOneGOP; Budge

It's getting deeper. Pretty soon, Kerry's gonna be the lone t**d in the sewer.


77 posted on 09/09/2004 6:31:43 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left." (Eccl. 10:2))
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To: sweetliberty

He won't be alone. Once BJ is out of recovery, he'll have company.


78 posted on 09/09/2004 6:35:02 PM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: sweetliberty

79 posted on 09/09/2004 6:37:22 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: VisualizeSmallerGovernment
John Kerry was once persuasive? Who knew?

Wine spew... lol
80 posted on 09/09/2004 6:39:06 PM PDT by demkicker
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