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Ex-Officer May Face Justice For Atrocities (Tiger Force - Toledo Blade)
The Toledo Blade ^ | 05Sep04 | Joe Mahr

Posted on 09/05/2004 6:49:01 AM PDT by leadpenny

TIGER FORCE - Ex-officer may face justice for atrocities - Army lawyer calls for war-crime charge

By JOE MAHR, BLADE STAFF WRITER

Three decades after an Army platoon repeatedly executed unarmed civilians and prisoners in Vietnam, a military lawyer has recommended the unit's former commander be brought up on a war-crime charge. In what would be an unprecedented event, retired Maj. James Hawkins could face a military court-martial regarding his actions commanding a platoon known as Tiger Force that killed hundreds of unarmed men, women, and children 37 years ago, The Blade has learned.

As the scope of war crimes in Vietnam becomes a key question in the presidential election, the military lawyer recommended this spring that Army officials charge Mr. Hawkins, who led Tiger Force between July and November, 1967.

The recommendation came during a broader Army review of Tiger Force prompted by a four-part series in The Blade in October. The series revealed the platoon's seven-month rampage through Vietnam's Central Highlands in 1967.

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1 posted on 09/05/2004 6:49:02 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: leadpenny

Looks like the "kerry defense" - yes, indeedy, there were atrocities committed in RVN - trying to come into play. Unreal that they dredge this up.


2 posted on 09/05/2004 6:52:20 AM PDT by astounded
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To: leadpenny

How interesting...Timing is everything.


3 posted on 09/05/2004 6:53:01 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Do you just think I fell off a turnip truck?)
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To: leadpenny

So this is the article that is supposed to exonerate Kerry for his testimony before Congress.


4 posted on 09/05/2004 6:53:09 AM PDT by BBell
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To: astounded

Kerry's problem is that he claimed that war crimes were systematic, part and parcel of what soldiers did every day in Vietnam, and under government orders to do it.


5 posted on 09/05/2004 6:54:13 AM PDT by mass55th ( “Where they have burned books, they will end in burning human beings.”)
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To: mass55th

It's my understanding that there's no statute of limitations on warcrimes and if I'm not mistaken there might be another confessed war criminal out there.


6 posted on 09/05/2004 6:56:00 AM PDT by Wardawg (Hanoi John was here.)
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To: Wardawg
Hmmm, no statute of limitations on warcrimes. I'll be more blunt. When is the confessed (on TV and in front of the Senate) War Criminal Kerry going to be charged?
7 posted on 09/05/2004 7:00:41 AM PDT by Chgogal (Pssst. I have it on the best authority that Allah has run out of virgins. Spread the word.)
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To: All

My brother, in Toledo, just alerted me to this article. I told him I was going to start a thread and that I thought I could predict the early comments. Thanks for supporting me.

BTW, Mr. Hawkins needs to get a list of everyone who is still alive and who were part of LBJ's administration and had anything to do with Vietnam. Robert Strange McNamara comes to mind first.


8 posted on 09/05/2004 7:01:13 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: BBell
So this is the article that is supposed to exonerate Kerry for his testimony before Congress.

No, that would be much more eventful. It would go more like:

"Sorry for everything, I lied, I am a filthy , un-American Liar, I am dropping out of the campaign and turning it over Leiberman"

9 posted on 09/05/2004 7:01:16 AM PDT by SpeakingUp (Kerry lied, The NYT lied, and nearly 2 Million Cambodians DIED)
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To: leadpenny; All
FYI, FWIW, here's what FR has on-site:

Army to interview witnesses of Vietnamese deaths

... The Blade of Toledo first reported in October that the Army's 101st Airborne Division Tiger Force killed civilians -- including women, children and elderly ...
freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1078535/posts - 37k - Supplemental Result - Cached - Similar pages

Former Green Beret Tackles John F-in Kerry Again!

... and sent back to hospitals in "The World." Although You, Mr. Kerry, painted all of us Vietnam veterans with the yellow brush of My Lai and Tiger Force, most of ...
www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1102180/posts - 37k - Supplemental Result - Cached - Similar pages

John "Ketchup" Kerry (P*ssed off VN Vet disagrees)

... sent back to hospitals in “The World.” Although You, Mr. Kerry, painted all of us Vietnam veterans with the yellow brush of My Lai and Tiger Force, most of ...
freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1093501/posts - 54k - Supplemental Result - Cached - Similar pages

10 posted on 09/05/2004 7:07:25 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: leadpenny

I don't remember any Tiger force in the central highlands. If I remember right the rock pile and Khe Sanh were in the central highlands. The HoBo woods is also there. I was around there back then but had little contack with anyone.


11 posted on 09/05/2004 7:07:57 AM PDT by Sniperxm21
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To: leadpenny
I live in Toledo and when they ran this article it was the proverbial "straw" that finally convinced me to cancel my subscription
12 posted on 09/05/2004 7:07:59 AM PDT by NDJeep
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To: leadpenny; Timesink; martin_fierro; reformed_democrat; Loyalist; =Intervention=; PianoMan; GOPJ; ...
Media Shenanigans ping - Media Fire Support For Kerry

The Blade goes to bat for its guy.

On, Off, or grab it for a Media Shenanigans/Schadenfreude/PNMCH ping:
http://www.freerepublic.com/~anamusedspectator/

13 posted on 09/05/2004 7:08:49 AM PDT by an amused spectator (Read John Kerry's new book: Mein Kampuchea)
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To: leadpenny

The Toledo Blade is as "left' as it can get. I live here and it's disgusting to read. I only take it because it's the only paper in town.


14 posted on 09/05/2004 7:09:49 AM PDT by billie bob
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To: Sniperxm21

I was in the Highlands the entire year of 67 and did not hear of it either.


15 posted on 09/05/2004 7:10:01 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: leadpenny
...repeatedly executed unarmed civilians and prisoners...

Did they kill them more than once? Or is this just badly worded?

16 posted on 09/05/2004 7:12:18 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (I'm from North Dakota--I'm ALL FOR Global Warming!)
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To: NDJeep; billie bob

When the series first ran last year I wrote a letter to the editor which they refused to print. My complaint was that in the entire series LBJ was never mentioned once. Nixon, and an implied cover up, was mentioned many times. I even had a phone conversations with one of the reporters. He was sympathetic but they still refused to run my letter.

My brother says the same thing - that it is a leftie paper. Of course, he still listens to milquetoast Mitch Albom on WJR also. (I know he's going to read this) Sorry Bro!


17 posted on 09/05/2004 7:17:58 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: SpeakingUp

Funny you mentioned Leiberman. I thought he was the best man in the whole bunch. Doesn't have that Presidential appeal though.


18 posted on 09/05/2004 7:19:45 AM PDT by BBell
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To: leadpenny
Is there a group formed to stir those in authority to charge Kerry for his admitted war crimes?

It needs to be done.Remember how long it took to get that Kennedy for killing his neighbor girl.
19 posted on 09/05/2004 7:21:27 AM PDT by Delphinium
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To: BBell
Funny you mentioned Leiberman. I thought he was the best man in the whole bunch

Being the best of that bunch isn't saying much.
20 posted on 09/05/2004 7:23:19 AM PDT by Delphinium
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