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155 children among dead. Explosives and weapons were snuck into school during summer rennovation.
the age ^ | September 5, 2004 | y C. J. Chivers and Steven Lee Myers

Posted on 09/04/2004 8:36:46 AM PDT by dennisw



155 children among dead
By C. J. Chivers and Steven Lee Myers
September 5, 2004

As the death toll in the Russian school siege passed 320 late yesterday, it emerged that the explosives and arms used by the Chechen rebels were smuggled into the building well in advance.

"The explosives, weapons and military equipment were taken into the school in summer... when building work was being carried out," Interfax news agency reported a security official as saying.

The terrorists first scoured the area looking for a school and then disguised themselves as workers rebuilding the gymnasium.

"We found a large amount of explosives and mines, and their number says that this attack was planned in advance," said North Ossetian security service chief Valery Andreyev. "The armaments were hidden on the school grounds."

The siege of Beslan - now dubbed Russia's September 11 - ended in panic and slaughter 52 hours after it began. More than 320 people - including 155 children - died, according to official reports and witnesses, after two large explosions set off pitched battles between heavily armed captors and Russian forces that continued for hours.
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Ambulances, police cars and any other free vehicles took more than 700 people to hospitals in convoys that careered through the streets of the small, leafy city in the republic of North Ossetia.

It is believed up to 32 rebels and 10 Russian troops were among the dead. As many as four hostage-takers were believed to have evaded capture amid the confusion. Scores of hostages survived, staggering from the school even as intense gunfire sputtered and grenades exploded around them.

Many were barely dressed, their faces strained with fear and exhaustion, their bodies dehydrated and bloodied by shrapnel and gunshots. 


ews reports last night quoted an unnamed source as saying that the militia first scouted out two other schools before settling on School No. 1 - the main one in Beslan - because it was undergoing major reconstruction work over the summer.

"It looks like they settled on a school that needed renovation . . . and which needed a new floor set for its gym," Itar-Tass quoted an official as saying.

An official told news agencies that the rebels decided on the building in July.

They posed as workers and sneaked in their bombs, mines, rocket launchers and other weapons disguised as construction material.

"The bandits sneaked in a large amount of arms, munitions, missiles and explosives hidden by planks, cement and other construction material. This was enough for them to lead an extended defence of the building," the source said.

They then stashed them away in a case in the basement under the new gym floor before it was laid down, Russian news reports quoted security officials as saying.

Russian television showed pictures of Mr Putin, dressed in a black suit over a black sweater, visiting the survivors in the local hospital. He stopped to stroke the head of one injured child and the arm of the school principal. He tried to speak to a girl but the girl turned away in her bed, and Mr Putin walked away.

Dozens of people crowded around lists of survivors posted at the Beslan hospital yesterday, searching desperately for news of loved ones who were not yet accounted for.




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1 posted on 09/04/2004 8:36:46 AM PDT by dennisw
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Like the 9-11 attacks, this one too was brilliant and well-planned. That should be a lesson to those who would appease them: They mean to kill us and all of western civilization, and they will use any means at their disposal to do it.

2 posted on 09/04/2004 8:39:01 AM PDT by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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To: dennisw

And if the Russian people are as stupid as the leftists in America, they will start to ask "What did Putin know and when did he know it?"

They will start to question why this attack was "allowed" to happen.

Personally, I don't think the Russian people are as stupid as the leftists in America.

3 posted on 09/04/2004 8:40:44 AM PDT by Peach (The Clinton's pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: coloradan
And they are patient, determined, and clever.
4 posted on 09/04/2004 8:41:29 AM PDT by null and void (Behold! I am become death, destroyer of threads.)
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To: dennisw
We have got to get pictures, pictures, pictures of this out to the public.

I know the alphabets won't do it or the DNC wing known as "the press" but maybe FOX, Wash Times..
people have got to be shocked out of their sanitized view of these animals and what they do.

5 posted on 09/04/2004 8:41:40 AM PDT by evad (We are free to draw our conclusions as to who's credible.I can't help it if your perception is wrong)
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To: coloradan

1968 Robert Kennedy assassinated
1972 Munich Olympics Sep-5,1972 (Black September)
1976 Entebbe Hostage Crisis, June 27, 1976
1979 Iran Hostage Crisis, Nov. 4, 1979 444 days
1979 Grand Mosque Seizure, Nov 20,1979
1981 Assassination of Egyptian President, Oct 6,1981
1982 Assassination of Lebanese Prime Minister, Sept 14, 1982
1983 Bombing of US Embassy in Beirut6, April 18,1983
1983 Bombing of Maring Barricks, Beruit, Oct 23,1983
1984 Hizballah Restaurant Bombing, April 12,1984
1985 Egyptian Airliner Hijacking, Nov 23,1985
1985 Rome Airport murders
1985 TWA Flight 847 hijacked, U.S. Navy diver murdered
1985 Achille Lauro hijacking, Homacidal maniac lived in saddams Iraq
1986 Aircraft Bombing in Greece, March 30, 1986
1988 Pan Am 747 Flight 103 Bombing, Lockerbie, 100's murdered
1988 Berlin Discoteque Bombing, Dec 21,1988
1992 Bombing in Israeli Embassy in Argentina, March 17,1992
1993 Attempted Assassination of Pres. Bush Sr., April 14,1993
1993 First World Trade Center bombing, February 26th, 7 Killed, Hundreds injured, Billions
1994 Air France Hijacking, Dec 24,1994
1995 Attack on US Diplomats in Pakistan, Mar 8,1995
1995 Saudi Military Installation Attack, Nov 13, 1995
1995 Kashmiri Hostage taking, July 4,1995
1996 Khobar Towers attack
1996 Sudanese Missionarys Kidnapping, Aug 17,1996
1996 Paris Subway Explosion, Dec 3,1996
1997 Israeli Shopping Mall Bombing, Sept 4, 1997
1997 Yemeni Kidnappings, Oct 30,1997
1998 Somali Hostage taking crisis, April 15,1998
1998 U.S. Embassy Bombing in Peru, Jan 15, 1998
1998 U.S. Kenya Embassy blown up, 100's murdered
1998 U.S. Tanzania Embassy blown up, 100's murdered
1999 Plot to blow up Space Needle (thwarted)
2000 USS Cole attacked, many U.S. Navy sailors murdered
2000-2003 Intifada against Israel - 100's dead and injured
2000 Manila Bombing, Dec 30,2000
2001 4 Commercial airliners hijacked, 250+ murdered
2001 World Trade Center attacked, 2800+ murdered
2001 Flight 93 murders
2001 Pentagon attacked, 180+ murdered
2002 Reporter Daniel Pearl, kidnapped and murdered
2002 Philippines American missionary, Filipino nurse killed
2002 July 4, El Al attack Los Angeles LAX, several murdered
2002 Bali bombing - 200 dead, 300 injured
2002 Yemen, French Oil Tanker attacked
2002 Marines attacked / murdered in Kuwait
2002 Washington D.C. sniper
2002 Russian Theater attacked, 100+ dead
2002 Nigerian riots against Miss World Pageant, 200 dead, dozens injured
2002 Mombasa Hotel Attacked, 12 dead, dozens injured
2002 Israeli Boeing 757 attacked by missiles, fortunately no one injured
2002 August Hotel bombing in Jakarta, Indonesia. 12 dead, dozens injured.
2003 Rusian concert bombing
2003 Phillipines airport and market bombing
2003 Foiled SAM plot in the USA
2003 UN Baghdad HQ Bombing
on and on and on and on it goes .........

Qur’an 8:12 “I shall terrorize the infidels.
So wound their bodies and incapacitate them
because they oppose Allah and His Apostle.”

Qur’an 8:57 “If you gain mastery over them in battle,
inflict such a defeat as would terrorize them,
so that they would learn a lesson and be warned.”

6 posted on 09/04/2004 8:41:56 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: null and void
And they are patient, determined, and clever.

Someone once told me you can't have goat and a garden. You have to pick one. The goat will always be thinking of ways to get into the garden and raid it. Even if he's fenced in and tethered.

7 posted on 09/04/2004 8:43:40 AM PDT by dennisw (Allah FUBAR!)
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To: Peach
And if the Russian people are as stupid as the leftists in America

Or rather, why do they hate us?

9 posted on 09/04/2004 8:45:13 AM PDT by lemura
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To: dennisw

It is almost certain that similar terrorist jihadi cells are already ensconced in America.

They will commit further atrocities - bet on it!

Fortunately, that will probably trigger a determined thrust to 'solve' the Islamo-fascist problem.

Finally, people will be mentally ready for total war - THE effective statecraft of our times.

All imho.

10 posted on 09/04/2004 8:47:37 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: dennisw

Please merciful Father in Heaven protect our children here in the USA and around the world and remind the people here what we face if we let TERRORISM JESUS name I pray!

11 posted on 09/04/2004 8:48:55 AM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: dennisw
As a dad of small children, my heart and prayers go out to the children, families and friends in Russia harmed by this viscious, Godless, Islamic attack.

Islam is begging for its eradication.

12 posted on 09/04/2004 8:50:32 AM PDT by Lester Moore (The Islamic Jihad shall be terminated with a Christian Crusade!)
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To: dennisw

Time to separate the sheep from the goats.

And eliminate the goats...

13 posted on 09/04/2004 8:51:15 AM PDT by null and void (Behold! I am become death, destroyer of threads.)
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To: headsonpikes

To have snuck those weapons in while renovating and not be detected chills me. We have to all watch construction sites especially at schools, hospitals, nursing homes. Really, this could happen here.

14 posted on 09/04/2004 8:51:59 AM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: dennisw

Innocent children are slaughtered by Islam !!!

There Is No Fundamental Islam

"Fundamentalism" is a word that came from the heart of the Christian religion. It means faith that goes by the word of the Bible. Fundamental Christianity, or going with the Bible, does not mean going around and killing people. There is no fundamental Islam. There is only Islam full stop. The question is how the Koran is interpreted.

But all of a sudden we see that the greatest interpreters of Islam are politicians in the western world. They know better than all the speakers in the mosques, all those who deliver terrible sermons against anything that is either Christian or Jewish. These western politicians know that there is good Islam and bad Islam. They even know how to differentiate between the two, except that none of them know how to read a single word of Arabic !!! Right, George???

The Language of Islam

You see, so much is covered by politically correct language that, in fact, the truth has been lost. For example, when we speak about Islam in the West, we try to use our own language and terminology. We speak about Islam in terms of democracy and fundamentalism, in terms of parliamentarism and all kinds of terms, which we take from our own dictionary. A professor and one of the greatest orientalists in the world says that doing this is like a cricket reporter describing a cricket game in baseball terms. We can't use for one culture or civilization the language of another. For Islam, you must use the language of Islam !!!

Driving Principles of Islam

Let me explain the principles that are driving the religion of Islam. Of course, every Moslem has to acknowledge the fact that there is only one God. But it's not enough just to say that there is only one God. A Moslem has to acknowledge the fact that there is one God and Mohammed is his prophet. These are the fundamentals of the religion that without them, one cannot be a Moslem.

But beyond that, Islam is a civilization. It is a religion that gave first and foremost a wide and unique legal system that engulfs the individual, society and nations with rules of behaviour. If you are Moslem, you have to behave according to the rules of Islam which are set down in the Koran and which are very different than the teachings of the Bible.

The Bible

Let me explain the difference. The Bible is the creation of the spirit of a nation over a very, very long period, if we talk from the point of view of the scholar, and let me remain scholarly. But there is one thing that is important in the Bible. It leads to salvation. It leads to salvation in two ways.

In Judaism, it leads to national salvation — not just a nation that wants to have a state, but a nation that wants to serve God. That's the idea behind the Hebrew text of the Bible.

The New Testament that took the Hebrew Bible moves us toward personal salvation. So we have got these two kinds of salvation, which, from time to time, meet each other.

But the key word is salvation. Personal salvation means that each individual is looked after by God, Himself, who leads a person through His word to salvation. This is the idea in the Bible, whether we are talking about the Old or the New Testament. All of the laws in the Bible, even to the minutest ones, are, in fact directed toward this fact of salvation.

Secondly, there is another point in the Bible, which is highly important. This is the idea that man was created in the image of God. Therefore, you don't just walk around and obliterate the image of God. Many people, of course, used Biblical rules and turned them upside down. History has seen a lot of massacres in the name of God and in the name of Jesus. But as religions, both Judaism and Christianity in their fundamentals speak about honouring the image of God and the hope of salvation. These are the two basic fundamentals.

The Essence of Islam

Now let's move to the essence of Islam. Islam was born with the idea that it should rule the world.

Let's look, then, at the difference between these three religions. Judaism speaks about national salvation — namely that at the end of the story, when the world becomes a better place, Israel will be in its own land, ruled by its own king and serving God. Christianity speaks about the idea that every single person in the world can be saved from his sins, while Islam speaks about ruling the world !!! I can quote here in Arabic, but there is no point in quoting Arabic, so let me quote a verse in English. "Allah sent Mohammed with the true religion so that it should rule over all the religions."

The idea, then, is not that the whole world would become a Moslem world at this time, but that the whole world would be subdued under the rule of Islam !!!

When the Islamic empire was established in 634 AD, within seven years — 640 AD — the core of the empire was created. The rules that were taken from the Koran and from the tradition that was ascribed to the prophet Mohammed, were translated into a real legal system. Jews and Christians could live under Islam provided they paid poll tax and accepted Islamic superiority. Of course, they had to be humiliated. And Jews and Christians living under Islam are humiliated to this very day.

Mohammed Held That All The Biblical Prophets Were Moslems

Mohammed did accept the existence of all the Biblical prophets before him. However, he also said that all these prophets were Moslems. Abraham was a Moslem. In fact, Adam himself was the first Moslem. Isaac and Jacob and David and Solomon and Moses and Jesus were all Moslems, and all of them had writings similar to the Koran. Therefore, world history is Islamic history because all the heroes of history were Moslems.

Furthermore, Moslems accept the fact that each of these prophets brought with him some kind of a revelation. Moses, brought the Taurat, which is the Torah, and Jesus brought the Ingeel, which is the Evangelion or Gospel — namely the New Testament.

The Bible vs. the Koran

Why then is the Bible not similar to the Koran?

Mohammed explains that the Jews and Christians forged their books. Had they not been changed and forged, they would have been identical to the Koran. But because Christians and Jews do have some truth, Islam concedes that they cannot be completely destroyed by war ( that is to say, not right now ).

Nevertheless, the laws are very clear — Jews and Christians have NO rights whatsoever to independent existence. They can live under Islamic rule provided they keep to the rules that Islam promulgates for them.

Islamic Rule and Jihad

What happens if Jews and Christians don't want to live under the rules of Islam? Then Islam has to fight them and this fighting is called Jihad. Jihad means war against those people who don't want to accept the Islamic superior rule. That's jihad. They may be Jews; they may be Christians; they may be Polytheists. But since we don't have too many Polytheists left, at least not in the Middle East — their war is against the Jews and Christians.

A while ago bin Laden distributed a pamphlet throughout the world. Therein he calls for jihad against America as the leader of the Christian world, not because America is the supporter of Israel, but because Americans are desecrating Arabia with their filthy feet. There are Americans in Arabia were no Christians should be. In this pamphlet there is not a single word about Israel. Only that Americans are desecrating the home of the prophet.

Two Houses

The Koran sees the world as divided in two — one part which has come under Islamic rule and one part which is supposed to come under Islamic rule in the future. There is a division of the world which is very clear. Every single person who starts studying Islam knows it. The world is described as Dar al-Islam (the house of Islam) — that's the place where Islam rules — and the other part which is called Dar al-Harb — the house of war. Not the "house of non-Muslims," but the "house of war." It is this house of war which as to be, at the end of time, conquered. The world will continue to be in the house of war until it comes under Islamic rule.

This is the norm. Why? Because Allah says it's so in the Koran. God has sent Mohammed with the true religion in order that the truth will overcome all other religions.

Islamic Law

Within the Islamic vision of this world, there are rules that govern the lives of the Moslems themselves, and these rules are very strict. In fundamentals, there are no differences between schools of law.

However, there are four streams of factions within Islam with differences between them concerning the minutiae of the laws. All over the Islamic world, countries have favored one or another of these schools of laws.

The strictest school of law is called Hanbali, mainly coming out of Saudi Arabia. There are no games there, no playing around with the meanings of words. If the Koran speaks about war, then it's war.

There are various perspectives in Islam with different interpretations over the centuries. There were good people that were very enlightened in Islam that tried to understand things differently. They even brought traditions from the mouth of the prophet that women and children should not be killed in war. These more liberal streams do exist, but there is one thing that is very important for us to remember. The Hanbali school of law is extremely strict, and today this is the school that is behind most of the terrorist powers. Even if we talk about the existence of other schools of Islamic law, when we're talking about Moslems fighting against the Jews, or fighting against the Christian world led by America, it is the Hanbali school of law that is being followed.

Islam and Territory

This civilization created one very important, fundamental rule about territory. Any territory that comes under Islamic rule can NOT be de-Islamized. Even if at one time or another, the [non-Moslem] enemy takes over the territory that was under Islamic rule, it is considered to be perpetually Islamic. Period, end of argument.

This is why whenever you hear about the Arab/Israeli conflict, you hear — territory, territory, territory. There are other aspects to the conflict, but territory is highly important.

The Christian civilization has not only been seen as a religious opponent, but as a dam stopping Islam from achieving its final goal for which it was created.

Islam was created to be the army of God, the army of Allah. Every single Moslem is a soldier in this army. Every single Moslem that dies in fighting for the spread of Islam is a shaheed (martyr) no matter how he dies, because — and this is very important — this is an eternal war between the two civilizations. It's not a war that stops. This war is there because it was created by Allah. Therefore, Islam must be the ruler. This is a war that will NOT end !!!

Islam and Peace

Peace in Islam can exist only within the Islamic world; peace can only be between Moslem and Moslem.

With the non-Moslem world or non-Moslem opponents, there can be only one solution - a cease-fire until Moslems can gain more power. It is an eternal war until the end of days. Peace can only come if the Islamic side wins. The two civilizations can only have periods of cease-fires. And this idea of cease-fire is based on a very important historical precedent, which, incidentally, Yasser Arafat referred to when he spoke in Johannesburg after he signed the Oslo agreement with Israel.

Let me remind you that even though the document speaks of peace — you wouldn't believe the clever trickery that you are reading !!! You would think that you were reading some science fiction piece. I mean when you read it, you can't believe that this was actually signed by Israelis who are actually acquainted with Islamic policies and civilization. Absolutely positively unbelievable !!!

A few weeks after the Oslo agreement was signed, Arafat went to Johannesburg, and in a mosque there he made a speech in which he apologized, saying, "Do you think I signed something with the Jews which is contrary to the rules of Islam?" (I obtained a copy of Arafat's recorded speech so I heard it from his own mouth.) Arafat continued, "That's not so. I'm doing exactly what the prophet Mohammed did."

Whatever the prophet is supposed to have done becomes a precedent. What Arafat was saying was, "Remember the story of Hudaybiya." The prophet had made an agreement there with the tribe of Kuraish for 10 years. But then he trained 10,000 soldiers and within two years marched on their city of Mecca. He, of course, found some kind of pretext.

Thus, in Islamic jurisdiction, it became a legal precedent which states that you are only allowed to make peace for a maximum of 10 years. Secondly, at the first instance that you are able, you must renew the jihad (thus breaking the "peace" agreement).

In Israel, it has taken over 50 years for the people to understand that they cannot speak about (permanent) peace with Moslems. It will take another 50 years for the western world to understand that they have got a state of war with the Islamic civilization that is virile and strong. This MUST be understood: When we talk about war and peace, we are not talking in Belgium, French, English, or German terms. We are talking about war and peace in Islamic terms !!!

Cease-fire as a Tactical Choice

What makes Islam accept cease-fire? Only one thing — when the enemy is too strong. It is simply a clever tactical choice.

Sometimes Moslems have to agree to a cease-fire in very humiliating conditions. But that's allowed because Mohammed himself accepted a cease-fire under very humiliating conditions. And that's precisely what Arafat said to them in Johannesburg.

When western policy makers hear these things, they answer, "What are you talking about? You're still living in the Middle Ages. You just don't understand the mechanisms of politics."

Huh? What mechanisms of politics? There are no mechanisms of politics where power is concerned. And I want to tell you one more thing — we haven't seen the end of it, because the minute a radical Moslem power obtains atomic, chemical, or biological weapons, THEY WILL USE THEM !!! I have no doubt about that whatsoever.

Now, since Israel faces war and they know they cannot get more than an impermanent cease-fire, one has to ask what is the major component of an Israeli/Arab cease-fire? It is nothing more than this -- the Islamic side is weak and the Israeli side is strong. The relations between Israel and the Arab world in the last 50 years (since the establishment of the State of Israel) has been based on this idea alone, superior deterrent power.

Wherever You Have Islam, You Will Have War

The reason that we have what we have in Yugoslavia and other places is because Islam succeeded in entering these countries. Wherever you have Islam, you will have war. It simply grows out of the attitude of the barbaric Islamic civilization.

What are the poor people in the Philippines being killed for? What's happening between Pakistan and India?

Islamic Infiltration

Furthermore, there is another fact that must be remembered. The Islamic world has not only the attitude of open war, but there is also constant war by infiltration.

One of the things which the western world has never paid enough attention to is the tremendous growth of Islamic power in the western world. What happened in America with the Twin Towers on 9-11 is not something that came from the outside. And if America doesn't wake up, one day the Americans will find themselves in a chemical war and most likely in an atomic war — inside the U.S.

End of Days

It is highly important to understand how a civilization sees the end of days. In Christianity and in Judaism, we know exactly what is the vision of the end of days.

In Judaism, it is going to be as in Isaiah — peace between nations, not just one nation, but between all nations. People will not have any more need for weapons and nature will be changed — a beautiful end of days and the kingdom of God on earth.

Christianity goes as far as Revelation to see a day that Satan himself is obliterated. There are no more powers of evil. That's the vision.

Speaking now as a historian, I try to understand how Islam sees the end of days. In the end of days, Islam sees a world that is totally Moslem, completely Moslem, under the rule of Islam. Complete and final victory.

Christians will not exist, because according to many Islamic traditions, the Moslems who are in hell will have to be replaced by somebody and they'll be replaced by the Christians.

The Jews will no longer exist, because before the coming of the end of days, there is going to be a war against the Jews where all Jews should be killed. I'm quoting now from the heart of Islamic tradition, from the books that are read by every child in school. They Jews will all be killed. They'll be running away and they'll be hiding behind trees and rocks, and on that day Allah will give mouths to the rocks and trees and they will say, "Oh Moslem come here, there is a Jew behind me, kill him." Without this, the end of days cannot come. This is a fundamental of idiotic, murderous Islam.

Is It Possible to End This Dance of War?

The question Israelis are asking is what will happen to our country? Is there a possibility to end this dance of war?

The answer is, "No. Not in the foreseeable future." Israel can reach a situation where for a few years there may be relative quiet.

But for Islam, the establishment of the State of Israel was a reverse of Islamic history. First, Islamic territory was taken away from Islam by Jews. You know by now that this can never be accepted, not even one meter. So everyone who thinks Tel Aviv is safe is making a grave mistake. Territory, which at one time was dominated by Islamic rule, now has become non-Moslem. Non-Moslems are independent of Islamic rule; Jews have created their own independent state. It is anathema !!!

And (this is the even worse) Israel, a non-Moslem state, is ruling over Moslems. It is unthinkable that non-Moslems should rule over Moslems.

I believe that Western civilization should hold together and support each other. Whether this will happen or not, I don't know. Israel finds itself on the front lines of this war. It needs the help of its sister civilization. It needs the help of America and Europe. It needs the help of the Christian world. One thing I am sure about, this help can be given by individual Christians who see this as the road to salvation !!!

So... Mr. Putin...

Islam has now made a collosal fool of you... blowing up your planes and your buildings, killing hundreds of your citizens, even slaughtering you innocent helpless children !!! The murdering Moslems have sunk lower than any other creatures on earth in order to eliminate your citizens.

You are now in the battle of your life, which likely will go on for many years, possibly even generations. If you fail to understand what you are facing, or falter in the challenge of knowing your enemy, the results will be catastrophic !!! So... Mr. Putin... where do you go from here??? Because Islam is NOT a religeon of peace. It is a religeon of PIECES... fingers, toes, ears, noses, hands, feet, arms, legs, heads, etc., etc.

15 posted on 09/04/2004 8:54:21 AM PDT by GeekDejure ( LOL = Liberals Obey Lucifer !!!)
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To: dennisw

The bomb that killed Chechen president, Akhmad Kadyrov was planted within the seating structure well in advanced too.

16 posted on 09/04/2004 8:57:23 AM PDT by Calpernia ("People never like what they don't understand")
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To: GeekDejure
Moslems have sunk lower than any other creatures on earth in order to eliminate your citizens.

The level of morality in battle is decided by the side willing to go the lowest. I submit that there is nothing lower than the deliberate killing of innocent children. As a father, a Jew, and an American, I give permission to hit them harder and more severely until they cry out that Islam and its teachings are wrong.

17 posted on 09/04/2004 8:59:55 AM PDT by KC_for_Freedom (Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
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To: coloradan
From the article:

The violence induced vigilantism. There were reports of angry Ossetians attacking - and in one case killing - captured guerillas. Another man, believed to be one of the fighters, hid under an army truck near the school before being captured by Russian soldiers. A crowd then set upon the man.

"Everybody tried to beat him," said Khariton Valiyev, 58. "People wanted to tear him to pieces. I myself would have pulled his eyes from his head with my fingers." That fighter's fate was not known.

Reminds me of the tomohawk scene in The Patriot.

18 posted on 09/04/2004 9:03:49 AM PDT by gitmo (Thanks, Mel. I needed that.)
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To: dennisw
The terrorists first scoured the area looking for a school and then disguised themselves as workers rebuilding the gymnasium.

We need to be alert to the fact that the planners of terrorist attacks are not stupid. Maybe the ones tapped to actually carry out some of the suicidal missions are not the brightest bulbs, but the planners are not dummies. They take months and years. Osama had engineers working for him who projected various scenarios about the WTC. It wasn't just a bunch of 3rd grade dropouts who planned and carried out the 9-11 atrocities; the leaders, at least, were intelligent, cunning, dangerous, and deadly. We need to remember that.
19 posted on 09/04/2004 9:14:19 AM PDT by TomGuy (His VN crumbling, he says 'move on'. So now, John Kerry is running on Bob KerrEy's Senate record.)
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To: dennisw

Why haven't the Russians declared their schools to be "gun free" zones?

20 posted on 09/04/2004 9:26:56 AM PDT by sailor4321
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