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Al-Sadr Says U.S. Can't Defeat Militia-(HEEEE'S BAAAACK ... Suprise Suprise Suprise...)
ap ^ | 9.3.04 | BDUL HUSSEIN AL-OBEIDI

Posted on 09/03/2004 4:18:31 PM PDT by Flavius

KUFA, Iraq - Rebel Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr declared U.S. forces can never defeat his Mahdi militia in a defiant speech read out to 2,000 supporters during the first Friday prayers since the end of a brutal three-week standoff with American troops.

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Al-Sadr aides said the cleric initially planned to deliver the sermon himself from a makeshift pulpit on the street outside the Kufa mosque, which was closed last week after militants pulled out under the peace accord. But he abandoned the idea amid fears it could raise tensions.

Iraqi security forces sealed off roads and fired warning shots near the city in an effort to keep the jostling crowds in check.

"Many, but not all, think that the American army is invincible. But now it's appeared only truth is invincible," Sheik Jaber al-Khafaji, said in a statement read on al-Sadr's behalf. "America claims to control the world through globalization, but it couldn't do the same with the Mahdi Army."

Last week's accord that ended three weeks of fighting between U.S. forces and al-Sadr militiamen in Kufa's twin city of Najaf gave the interim government control of that city. It also disentangled U.S. forces from bitter street fighting while allowing al-Sadr and his militants to walk away free — and keep their guns.

But al-Sadr portrayed the American withdrawal from Najaf's devastated Old City as a sign of U.S. military weakness. "We should keep in mind the lessons of what happened in Najaf," the cleric's statement said.

The remarks appeared intended to rally al-Sadr's forces. It was not clear whether they signaled a retreat from al-Sadr's commitment to talks between his envoys and the interim government of Prime Minister Ayad Allawi to stop weeks of clashes in the militant stronghold of Sadr City, a sprawling east Baghdad slum.

The cleric's public statements and subsequent actions have often been at odds. However, nothing in Friday's sermon suggested he was planning to immediately resume hostilities.

Al-Sadr has repeatedly rejected government demands that he disarm his militia, despite promises of millions of dollars in reconstruction aid for Sadr City. Calm returned to the neighborhood since talks began several days ago.

Friday's prayers had to be held on the street after al-Sadr handed over the mosque's keys to the office of Iraq (news - web sites)'s top Shiite cleric, which immediately shut its doors amid fears it could be reoccupied should fighting flare anew.

A sign pinned to the shrine's door simply said: "Closed for maintenance and cleaning."

On Friday, despite the turnout at the Kufa mosque, dozens of protesters in Najaf chanted slogans denouncing the cleric and blaming him for the destruction. They also demanded al-Sadr and his fighters leave the holy city once and for all, fearful of further unrest.

In the sermon read at Kufa, Al-Sadr also denounced the kidnapping of two French journalists as "inhumane" and added his voice to calls across the Muslim world for their immediate release.

"You should know that such actions are not part of the Iraqi resistance.They tarnish the image of the Iraqi resistance," he said.

Hopes grew that Christian Chesnot and Georges Malbrunot would be released after France's foreign minister said he had proof the pair was alive and one of their employers said they had been handed over to another, more moderate group.

In Baghdad, a spokesman for an influential Sunni clerical organization said Friday the hostages' lives were no longer threatened and it was only a matter of time before their release. Chesnot and Malbrunot were last heard from on Aug. 19 as they set off for Najaf. Their Syrian driver also vanished.

Militants waging a violent 16-month insurgency in Iraq have increasingly turned to kidnapping foreigners as part of an effort to drive out coalition forces and contractors.

Also Friday, several shells hit a checkpoint of the "Fallujah Brigade," a force initially created by the United States that has been patrolling the volatile city since April, security and hospital officials said. Four people died and six were wounded.

Capt. Majid Ahmad Salim, the Fallujah Brigade's commander in the southern part of the city, said the fire came from U.S. tanks outside the city. The U.S. military said they had no immediate information on the attack.

In other developments:

_ Three Macedonian contractors disappeared in Iraq 10 days ago, a government spokesman in Skopje and their employers said Friday. Iraqi officials have been unable to confirm whether they were kidnapped.

_ The U.S. military said two U.S. soldiers were wounded when they were hit by shrapnel when their convoy came under attack while on patrol near the city of Tikrit.

_ Gunmen abducted four policemen and an Iranian after raiding their hotel room in the southern city of Basra.

The officers had been escorting the Iranian to the border under a deportation order, a senior Basra police official said on condition of anonymity. The official declined to provide details on why he was being deported, but said it was linked to the unrest in Najaf.


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1 posted on 09/03/2004 4:18:31 PM PDT by Flavius
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To: Flavius

We could take this guy out with the NYPD if we wanted to. Question is, why don't we?


2 posted on 09/03/2004 4:19:31 PM PDT by RockinRight (Vote early, vote often)
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To: Flavius

This is going precisely as I said it would.

We will be badgered by this raghead until we grease him and bury his butt in bacon fat. Same goes for anyone who steps up and takes his place.


3 posted on 09/03/2004 4:20:01 PM PDT by Prime Choice (Democrats. They want to have their cake and eat yours too.)
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To: Flavius

Wait, I thought we killed him 3 times already?


4 posted on 09/03/2004 4:20:08 PM PDT by OneTimeLurker
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To: RockinRight

Sensitivity my friend, maybe we should ask Russians how that worked for them today...


5 posted on 09/03/2004 4:20:16 PM PDT by Flavius ("... we should reconnoitre assiduosly... " Vegetius)
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To: Prime Choice

Now we will have the Iraqi's begging us to take him out! Perfect!


6 posted on 09/03/2004 4:20:57 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Oklahoma is Reagan Country and now Bush Country -- Win Another One for the Gipper!)
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To: PhiKapMom
Now we will have the Iraqi's begging us to take him out! Perfect!

Hardly. The only reason al-Sadr still lives is because the Iraqis keep telling us to give him one more chance because they fear Shia reaction.

I had no idea that the Iraqi governing council had so much French blood flowing in their veins.

7 posted on 09/03/2004 4:22:34 PM PDT by Prime Choice (Democrats. They want to have their cake and eat yours too.)
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To: Flavius

Two words,Marine Sniper.


8 posted on 09/03/2004 4:22:44 PM PDT by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve to keep us free.)
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To: Flavius

Kill him.


9 posted on 09/03/2004 4:24:17 PM PDT by tiki
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To: tiki

I would find a supporter of the cleric Sadr had killed at the end of the war and give him a chance to avenge his murder. Use their own suicide tactics against them.


10 posted on 09/03/2004 4:29:00 PM PDT by DHerion
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To: Prime Choice

My prediction the Iraqi Governing Council will now give the go-ahead since he is saber rattling.


11 posted on 09/03/2004 4:30:30 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Oklahoma is Reagan Country and now Bush Country -- Win Another One for the Gipper!)
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To: RockinRight

Refer to Viet Nam 1966-1975. The State Department/World Opinion is directing our response.


12 posted on 09/03/2004 4:31:16 PM PDT by rocksblues (If you vote for Kerry you might just as well vote for Jane Fonda!)
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To: RockinRight
"We could take this guy out with the NYPD if we wanted to."

Those in charge in Iraq obviously have a reason to keep letting fatboy live, for now. His day will come. The fact that we could have killed him many times and havent is proof he is being used. Maybe as a thug magnet, who knows.

13 posted on 09/03/2004 4:31:47 PM PDT by No Blue States (Hype is on the way! Kerry/Edwards)
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To: Flavius

"I'm not dead yet!!!!"


14 posted on 09/03/2004 4:31:48 PM PDT by Mikey_1962
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To: RockinRight

because its not a military issue, as you correctly point out. its an internal political issues inside that country, the country doesn't belong to us, so we have to provide a long leash.

that said, after our election, I think things are going to change there - we need to keep a lid on things for 60 days.


15 posted on 09/03/2004 4:33:07 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: Flavius

Unfortunately, there are probably too many Iraqis who will believe this garbage, and give Sadr even more, since he (Sadr) is the new self-proclaimed "strongman".


16 posted on 09/03/2004 4:33:19 PM PDT by jolie560
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To: Flavius

What is needed is to use some long cherished local traditions: IIRC, around 740BC Assyrian king Tiglat Pileser III (a very sensitive man; he especially liked dancing and singing and kept a whole harem for it) was besieging some place in that neighborhood. Maybe even proto-najaf or proto-falluja. First he ordered the place to be walled up (he was a great humanitarian and philanthropically tried to starve them out); when it did not quite work but the starving besieged started trickling out, he had them impaled on stakes planted in his outer walls -for the besieged to see - and flayed alive once impaled. This sight crushed the resistance spirit, the place surrendered, was sacked and razed, and the survivors were mildly admonished and sold into slavery. He was the local guy and knew how to deal with Mesopotamians. Needless to say, in that area there were no revolts against Assyria for a hundred years.
I'd say there is a lesson in there.


18 posted on 09/03/2004 4:33:57 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: Flavius

What is needed is to use some long cherished local traditions: IIRC, around 740BC Assyrian king Tiglat Pileser III (a very sensitive man; he especially liked dancing and singing and kept a whole harem for it) was besieging some place in that neighborhood. Maybe even proto-najaf or proto-falluja. First he ordered the place to be walled up (he was a great humanitarian and philanthropically tried to starve them out); when it did not quite work but the starving besieged started trickling out, he had them impaled on stakes planted in his outer walls -for the besieged to see - and flayed alive once impaled. This sight crushed the resistance spirit, the place surrendered, was sacked and razed, and the survivors were mildly admonished and sold into slavery. He was the local guy and knew how to deal with Mesopotamians. Needless to say, in that area there were no revolts against Assyria for a hundred years.
I'd say there is a lesson in there.


19 posted on 09/03/2004 4:34:51 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: Flavius

Yep. Those hordes of "moderates" keep aiding and abetting bad boys like little Sadr.

But that's alright. If we leave idiots like him alive, they can keep bringing their terrorist, flunky cockroaches in from the other terrorist countries. That way, we don't have to transport our soldiers all over the place to eventually kill 'em all.


20 posted on 09/03/2004 4:35:51 PM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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