Posted on 09/03/2004 9:03:10 AM PDT by LisaFab
Bill Clinton rushed to Columbia Hostpital in NY for quadruple bypass surgery.
"Did someone "over there" really say that?!"
Yep. Screenname of Frodo.
Okay, I'm no doctor, but when I saw the term "lesions", that suggests to me that he has had prior heart attack activity. Lesions are scars and if he has scar tissue on his heart, he has had prior attacks. Now, they may not have been serious enough for him to have gotten medical attention, but on the other hand, he was the PRESIDENT of the United States, and should have been getting medical attention all along!
Hillary Clinton is one cold-hearted b****. I believe in the sanctity of marriage, I believe in being loyal to your wife, I believe in the sacredness of one's wedding vows, I believe it was beneath contempt and absolutely vile to be carrying on with somebody not much older than his daughter. Still ... I'll say again, I opposed Bill Clinton with every fibre of my being, down to the atoms of my bone marrow, in two elections, and he has much to answer for regarding his life and political career ... but in a strange sort of way, I can almost understand his tom-catting around. I mean, can you conceive of being married to somebody like Hillary? Waking up every a.m. next to somebody like Hillary? That thought doesn't just freeze the blood, it curdles the blood.
Wasn't expecting flames from you in particular, should've remembered my netiquette and made that clearer, sorry, but based on some of the comments in this thread, I was kind of expecting a few from elsewhere.
Cocaine: Rough on the heart, and (your lecturer believes) the second most common cause of myocardial infarction and sudden cardiac death in the U.S.
The recreational drug (1) produces coronary artery constriction (spasm, or whatever, nobody really understands it NEJM 333: 1267, 1995; Am. J. Card. 79: 492, 1997) and cardiac ischemia and even infarction (Circulation 99: 2737, 1999), especially when combined with cigaret smoking (NEJM 330: 454, 1994), which is bad because both increase the heart's need for oxygen; (2) makes the heart more prone to rhythm disturbances, perhaps by enhancing the effects of endogenous catecholamines; (3) can produce single-fiber necrosis and contraction bands (something to do with ion channels), perhaps leading to myocarditis and/or dilated cardiomyopathy.
Future pharmacologists: The drug opens sodium channels, perhaps opens calcium channels, and prevents synaptic re-uptake of catecholamines. Cocaine and the heart: Circulation 85: 407, 1992; Hosp. Pract. 26(9): 83, Sept. 15, 1991; Arch. Path. Lab. Med. 113: 842, 1989.
Thank you very much....and so do I. I also expect him to have a very hard time not seeming like he's trying to score political points off a former president's health problems. Even if Hillary IS working for Kerry's campaign still.
If given a choice between the two - as the author of terms like "Clintonista" I honestly confess - I would rather have Bill Clinton than John Kerry. Kerry's magnitudes worse and more evil than Clinton. Clinton caused much death and suffering, both here and abroad during his terms in office...but John Kerry helped cause the deaths, tortures and daily sufferings of millions of people, both American soldiers, international Christian missionaries and civilian citizenz of East Asia.
For the trolls amongst us, it's not hyperbole, it's simple fact, verifiable by simple math...IF you're intellectually up to the task.
Toxicity, Cocaine - Last Updated: August 31, 2004
Myocardial infarction and acute coronary syndromes
Patients with cocaine-related MI often have fixed atherosclerotic lesions. While these lesions may themselves be of clinical significance, cocaine-induced elevations in pulse and blood pressure increase myocardial work. The additional metabolic requirements that result may convert an asymptomatic obstruction into one of clinical significance.
Substantial evidence indicates that cocaine use causes accelerated coronary atherosclerosis. According to a 1995 study of trauma fatalities among males with a mean age of 34 years and an incidental finding of cocaine metabolite, 25% had lesions in 2 or more vessels and 19% had disease in 3-4 vessels. Of the control subjects, only 6% had 2-vessel disease and none had 3-vessel or 4-vessel disease. In another study of 22 long-term cocaine users with a mean age of 32 years, all of whom died suddenly with detectable serum cocaine levels, severe narrowing of more than 75% of cross-sectional area was found in 1 or more coronary arteries in 36% of patients.
Hollander and Hoffman review and analyze the literature of 91 patients with cocaine-induced MI. Cardiac catheterization in 54 of the patients demonstrated that 31% had significant coronary atherosclerosis. Autopsy studies of patients with cocaine-related MI revealed atherosclerotic lesions in more than one half of the cases. In another review of medical examiner records, 495 deceased patients were identified with positive toxicologic findings of cocaine; 6 of them, whose mean age was 29 years, had MI with total thrombotic occlusion primarily involving the left anterior descending coronary artery. All of the patients had significant coronary atherosclerosis, with 83% having lesions causing luminal stenosis of more than 75% cross-sectional area in one or more vessels.
Generally people who just have bypasses are not put on Coumadin. If so it is only for a short time. The reason my husband is on it is because of the ARTIFICIAL aortic valve. If he would have had the pig valve he would not have had to be on it for the rest of his life. The problem was he was only 63 at the time and the pig valve only lasts 10 to 13 years. The doctor said it would be better to have the artificial valve but it breaks down the platelets and they could build up on the valve and break off.
I have no idea what would happen if a person is on Coumadin and using cocaine. I do know that my husband has to be careful about foods with vitamin K, herbal teas, and definitely no medication with aspirin in it.
I am sorry to hear about the loss of your sister. Why was she on Coumadin? Was it the combination of Meds that she died from or the cancer?
Boy, I thought Zell's speech would have caused the chest pains, but apparently President Bush's speech was the trigger. Great news!
I was thinking HHH, LOLOLOL!
As of Sept. 1999, Physical finds Clinton health 'excellent,' White House says.
Agreed, 1000%. Her behavoir is completely unreal. Even if this WERE staged and she hates his guts, as the former first lady and still technically a political wife, she should at least ACT decent to her spouse at this time. Her behavior lays another layer of lie over "Living History".
In fact, similar behavior by male politicians toward their wives has ruined more than one political career. You'd think she'd think of THAT, liquid oxygen, nitrogen or no.
"..but in a strange sort of way, I can almost understand his tom-catting around. I mean, can you conceive of being married to somebody like Hillary? Waking up every a.m. next to somebody like Hillary? That thought doesn't just freeze the blood, it curdles the blood."
No, I'd rather not imagine that, thank you, LOL.
Sorry to hear...hope he is well...See, because conservatives have a heart! Hitlery is enough to make any heart fail!
Hope the young nurses watch out! I heard old habits never change!
I meant "great news" that it was the President's speech rather than Zell's that caused discomfort, NOT that Clinton having heart problems was great news.
(Sometimes my fingers type faster than my brain is moving.)
Really? I didn't know that. Or else have forgotten it. I only know the generalities because I'm trained as a first responder, not a doctor, and don't deal with a lot of cocain probs anymore (thus the possibility of forgetting it). Good information to file away though, thanks.
Clinton was a big time smoker. I still dont get why people smoke.
I don't consider anyone's quadruple bypass to be the least bit humorous.
What about checkups after 1999? Reckon he
hasn't had one since then? I always thought
presidents and former ones, had a few checkups
a year.
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