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Injured soldiers say they're languishing at Ft. Lewis for no reason
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| August 31, 2004
| ANDREW KRAMER
Posted on 09/01/2004 1:47:37 PM PDT by Former Military Chick
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To: Chieftain; Ragtime Cowgirl; gatorbait; writer33; GreyFriar; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; ...
Some want to cast blame. For me our returning wounded are beyond political parties. We did not do our best in WW1 WW2 and the Vietnam war, we should have learned lessons so that these troops are getting the care they deserve and earned serving our country. imho
To: Former Military Chick
AHA! -This- must certainly be Bush's fault. Perhaps Rummy. I dunno. Er. Fire Colin and Karen Hughes!
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posted on
09/01/2004 1:49:17 PM PDT
by
sam_paine
(X .................................)
To: Former Military Chick
For me our returning wounded are beyond political parties. Amen!
To: sam_paine
I suppose I should have expected this reply. I did not want to have this turn into a discussion of blame but rather what can be done for our heros.
To: Former Military Chick
Saw this posted early this morning. The languishing is due to typical gub'mint SNAFUs and left and hand not talking wit right hand kinda thing. 22 years USMC, experience taught me this: hurry up and wait is unavoidable in bureaucracy.
By the way, my favorite saying when I worked for the Naval Aviation Depot was: "Efficiency is the ENEMY of Bureaucracy"
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posted on
09/01/2004 1:53:41 PM PDT
by
Chieftain
(Support the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth and expose Hanoi John's FRAUD!)
To: Former Military Chick
The wounded soldiers also waited hours for doctor appointments, were forced to fill out confusing paperwork and faced months of delays regarding their benefits Welcome to the Army, whiner.
I don't know what Army he thought he was joining, but that's the way it's been since time immemorial....
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posted on
09/01/2004 1:53:48 PM PDT
by
Cogadh na Sith
(--Scots Gaelic: 'War or Peace'--)
To: Homo_homini_lupus
I am sure the military folks would appreciate your AMEN I know that I do, thank you.
To: Former Military Chick
Government health care anyone?
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posted on
09/01/2004 1:54:25 PM PDT
by
cosine
To: Former Military Chick
This really ticks me off. I'm glad for the post, but it's a shock and a shame to see how some soldiers get treated -- especially National Guard soldiers. We're three years into this war now, and some middle-managers in the military are still trying to get their act together. It's a shame.
To: Former Military Chick
I blame Clinton era military restructuring. WHen I was at Ft Bliss the wait lines were long and you had to go through a specific case worker and the military insurance provider Tri-Care, a ridiculous thing when you consider the fact the non-war injured active duty soldiers did not have to go through the same process.
To try and place blame fully on the President is ridiculous, obviously the administration should accept partial blame but the fact is these rules were set in place by Clinton not Bush when he did his slight of hand by firing all those civilian workers and he removed the old medical system.
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posted on
09/01/2004 1:56:03 PM PDT
by
aft_lizard
(I actually voted for John Kerry before I voted against him)
To: cosine
Government health care anyone?Yeah, that's a good point. If Hillary and Kerry get their way, this is how health care will look for all of us.
To: Former Military Chick
I think the Kerry campaign just found their next "military" spokespeople.
To: Former Military Chick
Um, why is it that this story is about Oregon NG troops and the Oregon NG AG is interviewed and quoted in the story and hE is blaming others.
Why isn't he asked what he attempted to do to correct the identified problems.
Looks to me like he might be part of the problem.
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posted on
09/01/2004 2:02:25 PM PDT
by
There's millions of'em
(Terayza Heinze owns the MSM,.. but it was a small investment.)
To: sam_paine
"AHA! -This- must certainly be Bush's fault. Perhaps Rummy. I dunno. Er. Fire Colin and Karen Hughes!"
Well, seeing how somebody said it.......... Yes, in a way it is there fault. You utilize Gaurdsman for combat but no plan to handle wounded? Thats just poor leadership from G.W. on down to the Generals who didnt have the guts to bring it up. And the real pisser is that its more about budgets then neglect of thought.
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posted on
09/01/2004 2:02:33 PM PDT
by
Fyscat
To: Former Military Chick
Stop whining, there's a war on. Your brothers and sisters are in harm's way.
SHUT UP
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posted on
09/01/2004 2:02:45 PM PDT
by
OldFriend
(WAR IS THE REMEDY OUR ENEMIES HAVE CHOSEN)
To: Former Military Chick
Let's see.....our soldiers are left to languish for weeks and months because of fedgov incompetency but illegals (who probably despise this country) can count on prompt medical attention paid for by the taxpayers....isn't there something desperately wrong with this picture?
To: american spirit
oh Thank You!!!!!
But thery're "undocumented workers"
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posted on
09/01/2004 2:06:48 PM PDT
by
Fyscat
To: There's millions of'em
Um, why is it that this story is about Oregon NG troops and the Oregon NG AG is interviewed and quoted in the story and hE is blaming others.
Why isn't he asked what he attempted to do to correct the identified problems.
Looks to me like he might be part of the problem.
These fellows are on active, assigned to the Arkansas National Guard brigade which is deployed as part of the 1st Cavalry Division.
It might be that it is out of the Oregon AG's hands. Those Oregon boys have been through quite a tough time over there. From Baghdad to Najaf with several fatalities. Hopefully someone can get this taken care of.
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posted on
09/01/2004 2:13:27 PM PDT
by
Arkinsaw
To: Fyscat
Well, that makes me feel a lot better about seeing my tax $ go to feeding, housing, medicating & educating them. I guess if they're undocumented it also allows all those employers who hire them to ignore all those messy time consuming payroll reports.....I thought that was evading taxes but if you hire someone who's "not there" there's no need for paying taxes. I've often wondered what it was like to live in a banana republic.
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