Sure, make the tent big enough and the next thing ya know...
Facts are stupid...er, stubborn things. I'd like to see some statistics from the Log Rubbin' Republicans to substantiate this claim.
Log Cabin "Republicans" == Gay Democrats
It is kind of queer to say you are for traditional family values for both straight as well as gay couples. That is what the president of the Log Republicans said today on the Larry Elder radio show.
Welcome to Free Republic.
This can be dealt with after the election.
One way or another, one faction will outspend the other for control.
No need to waste powder on it now.
I think "Log Cabin Republicans" are just fiscal conservatives (taxes too high when you don't have kids to write off), who will always be taxed by Dems...
It would be nice if they read the platform before attacking it.
What the heck is a Log Cabin Republican?
They might find it more comfortable with the strange bedfellows of the other party. Traditional marriage is MAINSTREAM conservativism, not radical right wing.
Go, Tiger!
Seems there's a party for those who rebel against God's order.
and base their whole lives on their sexual deviancies.
That party would be the Democratic.
They call their unions, "Families"? What a Joke!
"Homosexuality is incompatible with military service."
GOOD!
May I add that homsexuals are incompatible to traditional family values. Homesexuality is also at odds with all that is normal in a relationship.
Have a hissy fit on your own time.
But what the heck do I know,........ except that we must keep Kerry out of the White House.....?
This is a terrible outrage and if they hate the party so much, why are they still members?
I'm tempted to tell them to "shove it up ***** ***" but I fear that might be a sexual turn on and they'd misunderstand that for normal people that would be an insult. For them it is a way of life in their sex life.
If the Republican Party moves to a moderate agenda and becomes more inclusive in order to gain fragmenting RAT members...then it stands to reason that the Republicans will continue to migrate to the left (or as RINOs say...'moderate'). Only conservatives can right the ills we, as a nation, face, but, currently, we are considered useful idiots and ultimately expendable. As krinton said about the gay vote when he triangulated the 'don't ask, don't tell' policy - 'who are they going to vote for?' Our leadership considers us in much the same position.
Sure, make the tent big enough and the next thing ya know...
Larry Elder was explaining to one of them that legislation won't work, but an amendment would make it clear for the whole country that marrisge is man/woman.
I was disappointed that it wouldn't be man/women. I have a confession. Ann Coulter, Bo Derick and I live in a loving domestic relationship and we can't ALL be one union in marriage..........(Wake up Mark, you were dreaming!!)
Damn!
The following is one of my rants. Kind of on a different topic, but it deals with the fact that liberals and gays are siding against the the Republicans, and that opposition is against the best interests of their causes. The nature of our political system is such that if they joined us meaningfully they could participate in accomplishing foreign policy goals that are commonly shared. The only requirement is that they face reality... damnit, that's where even I get hung up trying to convince a liberal to vote for Bush... the whole reality dysfunction of their world view.
My response to a liberal idiot who dared to compare the Islamo-fascists in Iraq to our forefather's and Revolutionaries. That kind of equating does not add up... the rant goes on much longer into a plea for liberals to examine the hypocrisy between their beliefs and their political position.
The comparison of the Iraqi insurgence to our Revolution is ridiculous. Have you bothered to learn what it is these insurgents will do if they gain political power in Iraq?
1) Strip women of civil rights.
2) Homosexuals... will die, executed by the state.
3) Dissent is punished with death and intimidation, they're doing it already.
- Iraqis who work with Americans are killed.
4) Freedom of speech will be curtailed.
5) Freedom of religion will be revoked. Yes, Christians, Atheists, and anyone else will be forced to convert, leave, or die.
What did our nation's forefather's do with the power a successful revolution gave them? They gave us a flexible Constitution. They gave us the means by which future generations have abolished slavery, accorded women the right to vote, and more importantly they guaranteed the right of the governed to be involved in the political process. Don't expect the insurgents in Iraq to be so generous.
In fact, based on everything I've learned about liberals and their views, I've come to the conclusion that they are selfish, narcissistic, drones for the liberal leadership, of which Michael Moore is one of them. If the liberals would step back and examine the issues involved in liberating Afghanistan and Iraq, they should be the most in favor of bringing peace to that region. Under more moderate regimes women will have equal rights with men, homosexuals will not be persecuted or executed, and everyone will have the right to free speech. If you don't want those for your fellow humans in the Middle East, all I can say is you are all hypocrites.
There is injustice in the world, but you refuse to defend those who most need your help. Is it not a greater injustice to not stop the atrocities committed before our intervention? And now that those atrocities have been halted, and the only thing left to do is put down those who would perpetuate those atrocities, you, liberals, would turn on those who would free and liberate millions of people because you believe something is wrong with the way we are doing it? People die in the type of fight we are fighting in the Middle East. We are fighting those who would perpetuate suffering and commit acts of terror against innocents on purpose because they know and predicted your very reaction. They think the liberal left of our country are idiots enough to fight against a government which is fighting to free the very people the enemy is trying to enslave and oppress.
That is all you really need to know about this conflict. It is between America's values of freedom, and those who would oppress their people and tyrannically force their people live in poverty, even with the wealth of oil in their nations.
I know most of you believe that Bush is an evil corporate insider, but I doubt any of you have even tried to examine the man's private life. None of you have bothered to look at the pictures at ground zero after 9/11 where Bush walked the grounds with the families. How he held onto a child and cried with her over her loss. Damnit! Our President CRIED and you accuse him of being a heartless perpetrator of corporate interests. None of you have bothered to get to know either of the candidates because none of you seem to really care about the truth. Well, here you have it... The enemy really is EVIL, and they really do want to KILL you. They've wanted to do this for decades. It isn't a new phenomena. They didn't attack us and bring down the World Trade Center because we put another George Bush in the White House. They would've done it if Gore was President. If they win in the Middle East, millions of people will be stripped of freedoms we now enjoy. When the liberals take up the banner for gay rights and gay marriage, they ignore that being gay is a crime under fundamentalist Islamic rule. Instead of just fighting for gay rights, perhaps fighting for gay lives would be more appropriate to the bleeding heart left. For the women who want an equal rights amendment, you have in effect received all of those equal rights, yet your analogs in the Middle East are stripped of any rights to be equal by men... Men who executed a sexually curious girl only recently while only giving the boy 100 lashes. Her crime besides premarital sex? For talking back to the judge and showing her face.
We can stop these crimes against humanity, but the enemy is already on the move. The enemy believes that it is okay to deceive an enemy to gain an advantage, so we cannot negotiate with them in good faith. There is only one... one option to free those people, and it is the might of our military and the combined will of our people. If you don't stand with those of us want to reform the Middle East and give them a chance for freedom, then those who you most identify with will always remain hidden on pain of persecution or execution. I say this because in the end our goals would be the same, a free and peaceful Middle East, and an end to a power base for terror inclined extremists.
Consider this last point, if we didn't do this now, imagine what would have happened years from now if Iraq had finalized deals with China. Imagine what would have happened if Iran had obtained nuclear weapons already. Imagine the lives and devastation waiting could have done, and all those lives you think are needlessly being spent now, will have been spent by the millions.
Wrong or right about the reasons for being there, the mission to free and help sustain a free and peaceful Iraq and Afghanistan is certainly a just cause, and George W. Bush is dedicated to finishing the job. John Kerry has flipped on this issue several times, and if he stays true to his record, he probably won't finish the job, and the 50 million people in the Middle East who have been liberated by our intervention will lose their chance.
You don't have to support or fight the insurgents and the terrorists... But you can fight for the rights of the people in that region to be free and in order to do that, you have to put aside your dislike for Bush and get behind the mission to bring freedom and peace to those people. If you don't, you place at risk the lives of everyone you claim to care about. No other man would be able to prosecute the liberation of the Middle East than GWB. Only Bush can effectively put on the face of firm resolve that we have to show to the enemy, because any wavering will only hearten them and give them a reason to believe that they can win. That is the reality of the world, and while it doesn't jive with the ideal that many of you hope to see in your lifetime, perhaps we can all work together to make sure that we do have a shot of passing on a more peaceful world to future generations. For as long as conflict exists, your ideals will remain impossible, and conflict exists so long as those who would be murderous aggressors, like fanatical Islam extremists, continue to grow, organize, and obtain the ability to project their aggression against those who would prefer peace.
Just think about it.
for later
They're Trojan horses.