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Kerry’s Term of Military Service -Research Results!
8/30/04
| Tacis
Posted on 08/30/2004 9:46:39 AM PDT by Tacis
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Note - Please do not show this to any member of the neocummunist, ultra-left wing media. I'd hate to hand them a shot at the Pulitzer Prize for Investigative Reporting when, I know, they in their legions are about to investigate and write about women not being involved with the Masters.
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posted on
08/30/2004 9:46:40 AM PDT
by
Tacis
To: Tacis
This revision is instructive because, in a letter dated 27 March 1969, Kerry was notified that he was ...eligible for the Vietnam Service Medal with 02 stars. Thus, after more than 30 years, Kerry is paying close enough attention to the differences between his records and the official records to ask that the official records be changed (in his favor) by two bronze stars on a service ribbon (didnt he say he threw that away?). Both of Kerry's trips to Vietnam (Gridley and Swifts) overlapped into two separate campaign periods. He legitimately qualified for two stars on each of them for a total of four.
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posted on
08/30/2004 9:54:01 AM PDT
by
Bob
To: Tacis
I dont know, and maybe somebody with better knowledge than me can answer this. But if Kerry has 4 bronze stars like he says he should also have orders to that and or recognition letters for his service in such and such operation, such as mine for operation enduring freedom and operation iraqi freedom (WOT medal with one bronze star). Unless objectives are recognized.
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posted on
08/30/2004 9:54:24 AM PDT
by
aft_lizard
(I actually voted for John Kerry before I voted against him)
To: Tacis
To: Tacis
There is one answer that I have been considering for some time.
In light of the fact that John Kerry violated several laws while in the Navy reserve it just may be possible that John Kerry may have been one of the informants the FBI and DOD had in VVAW.
Not much chance, but one option as to why he was not prosecuted.
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posted on
08/30/2004 10:00:12 AM PDT
by
stockpirate
(Real issue is Kerry attended meeting where VVAW discussed killing 7 US Senators! 11/71)
To: Tacis
So, in other
'words', Kerry was
AWOL for the last period of his military service, if one looks at this like a Democrat would look at the service record of a Republican.
Very, interesting!!
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posted on
08/30/2004 10:04:36 AM PDT
by
NoClones
To: Tacis
We dont know if the Navy court martialed Kerry in the early 70s for a treason related offense... I don't know military law but...wouldn't a court martial for treason be in the public record?
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posted on
08/30/2004 10:06:35 AM PDT
by
tsmith130
(Making one's enemies suffer is currently an under-valued activity.)
To: Tacis
I think you're on to something concerning his reserve time. I've always wondered how a reserve naval officer could comport himself and say the myriad things he said (re: his superiors complicity in war crimes) and not be called on it was uncharicteristic of the military as I knew it from1968-1972.
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posted on
08/30/2004 10:07:16 AM PDT
by
vigilence
To: Tacis
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posted on
08/30/2004 10:07:40 AM PDT
by
NonValueAdded
(Kerry was in the Senate???)
To: stockpirate
"Not much chance, but one option as to why he was not prosecuted." Copped a plea or a gummint spy? Or both.
To: Tacis
This language may be boilerplate or it may mean that a process preceded Kerrys discharge. A worthy line of investigation.
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posted on
08/30/2004 10:10:06 AM PDT
by
Plutarch
To: Tacis
All info gleamed from any Kerry or anti-Bush site that has to do with Kerry military record has been extremely well edited!!!!!
I would guess Kerry has a police patrol going from site to site making sure each piece of information conforms to another of the same subject.
The facts will not be had while 100+ pages are still held by the military and cannot be released without the Form 180 signed by Kerry.
I see we have Kerry's 1968's crowd present in NYC. They look the same as they did in 1968. Life is good when your head is empty and the democrats are telling you when, how high, and what color poop to lay down.
Anyone notice the AP press actually has news clipping of this Barnes guy in Texas saying he did not help Bush get into the guard?
Seems Democrats are much better lier's.
There is the Torture Water King Teddy Kennedy
The Hildabeast
Slick Willie "Pipe Job" Clinton Dah Chill
And the Best of all Hanoi John Kerry
To: Eastbound
I've been studing the FBI files and it is one option that I have been looking at. The VVAW was giving the US a lot of crap. Others in VVAW that were found to be in violation of the law were prosecuted, not Kerry, why?
But, Kerry was being investigated by the FBI. And a lot of what he did he wouldn't have needed to do as a mole in the VVAW.
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posted on
08/30/2004 10:22:30 AM PDT
by
stockpirate
(Real issue is Kerry attended meeting where VVAW discussed killing 7 US Senators! 11/71)
To: Tacis
Many possible scenarios here. Unless proven otherwise, Kerry could claim he went to Paris as the official 'unofficial' negotiator for the State Department. The advance team. Another straw to grab when he comes up for air.
To: Tacis
Wasn't there something in the Nixon tapes concerning Kerry? Could it be that the Nixon WH had the DoD keep him on? Republicans held the WH until January 20, 1977.
The "Honorable Discharge" was issued during the Carter years.
To: Eastbound
Maybe the reason Kerry wasn't prosecuted is one word in the form of "Kennedy"...
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posted on
08/30/2004 10:39:22 AM PDT
by
mumzie
(www.combatvetsagainstkerry.com)
To: Tacis
Thus, it appears that a Form 180 was not submitted, only a request for a specific list of documents included in the overall record. That is correct - it was an official response by the Navy, in the form of a letter, to a specific request by Kerry in his 1986 election.
See more SUPPORTING POINTS & AUTHORITIES, II. Kerry avoided combat duty and officially joined the US Naval Reserve (like the National Guard)
To: Tacis
Good research here. Thanks, Tacis!
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posted on
08/30/2004 10:40:35 AM PDT
by
MizSterious
(First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
To: stockpirate
How many of them had connections in high places in the majority party? Kerry carried water for Senator Fullbright.
To: Bob
Both of Kerry's trips to Vietnam (Gridley and Swifts) overlapped into two separate campaign periods. He legitimately qualified for two stars on each of them for a total of four. Except each period required 6 months of service and he spent most of his time on the Gridley off the coast of California & traveling to Australia and then left SwiftBoats after 4 months.
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