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527 Reasons Dems Are Mad
www.thehill.com ^ | 08-30-04 | Byron York

Posted on 08/30/2004 7:31:15 AM PDT by MamaLucci

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Perhaps the only way to incite real outrage among the good people of the commentariat and the think tanks,” the column said, “would be for Richard Mellon Scaife to give $10 million to a new right-wing group, which would then begin airing nonstop attacks on John Kerry — no coordination with the Bush campaign, of course.”

Turns out that was wrong. Today, there is real outrage, but it didn’t take Scaife — or anywhere near $10 million — to make it happen. All it took was a group of Navy Swift boat veterans with a resentment of Kerry and $200,000 from a Texas supporter of George W. Bush.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 527; 527groups; 527s; angrydems; byronyork; cfr; kerry; sbv
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CFR comes home to roost for both parties.
1 posted on 08/30/2004 7:31:16 AM PDT by MamaLucci
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To: MamaLucci

Pandora's box got opened when they started tinkering with the 1st amendment.


2 posted on 08/30/2004 7:32:57 AM PDT by ladtx ( "Remember your regiment and follow your officers." Captain Charles May, 2d Dragoons, 9 May 1846)
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To: MamaLucci

John McCain is a dangerous man who wishes to silence criticism of politicians.


3 posted on 08/30/2004 7:36:23 AM PDT by TheGeezer (If only I had skin as thick as Ann Coulter, and but half her intelligence...)
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To: TheGeezer
Rumors are rampant that McCain is is setting himself
up to run for POTUS in 2008.
4 posted on 08/30/2004 7:45:10 AM PDT by MamaLucci (Libs, want answers on 911? Ask Clinton why he met with Monica more than with his CIA director.)
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527 Reasons Dems Are Mad

REASON #419:

... Batman keeps right on arresting them, no matter HOW many times they escape.

5 posted on 08/30/2004 7:45:36 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (I feel more and more like a revolted Charlton Heston, witnessing ape society for the very first time)
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To: MamaLucci
"Rumors are rampant that McCain is is setting himself up to run for POTUS in 2008."

For which party?

Certainly not the Rs, without a very big fight.

6 posted on 08/30/2004 7:46:41 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Truth : Liberal as Kryptonite : Superman)
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To: MamaLucci

I could be mistaken, but I think that all of these 527 ads become impermissible from 60 days to the election on, which is in about four days, so all this hubbub is going to die down pretty soon.


7 posted on 08/30/2004 7:49:20 AM PDT by jpl (John Kerry is the 2-7 offsuit in the great Presidential poker race.)
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To: ladtx
I agree with Byron York. This election cycle should prove
beyond a shadow of a doubt the wrong-headedness (let alone unconstitutionality)
of CFR, and Congress should act swiftly to repeal McCain Feingold.
No, I am not holding my breath. :)
8 posted on 08/30/2004 7:51:13 AM PDT by MamaLucci (Libs, want answers on 911? Ask Clinton why he met with Monica more than with his CIA director.)
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To: jpl; All

I believe that you are mistaken......anyone have a definitive answer on that?


9 posted on 08/30/2004 7:52:23 AM PDT by MamaLucci (Libs, want answers on 911? Ask Clinton why he met with Monica more than with his CIA director.)
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To: MamaLucci

The only solution is to repeal McCain Feingold! Sooner is better!


10 posted on 08/30/2004 7:52:43 AM PDT by Sunshine Sister
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To: jpl
I could be mistaken, but I think that all of these 527 ads become impermissible from 60 days to the election on, which is in about four days...

Not even close.

First of all, only those 527s that take corporate or union donations are affected. Second, those that do can still do "issue" advertising, provided they don't name candidates or parties. Name an issue that can't be discussed without actually naming the party or candidate. It's like saying you can't write porn without using the seven deadly words. Of course you can.

The law will have zero effect.

11 posted on 08/30/2004 7:58:29 AM PDT by js1138 (Speedy architect of perfect labyrinths.)
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To: MamaLucci

All it took was a group of Navy Swift boat veterans with a resentment of Kerry


Correction: All it took was a group of Navy Swift boat veterns WITH THE TRUTH about Kerry.


12 posted on 08/30/2004 8:03:13 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (seeking the truth here folks.)
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John McCain is a dangerous man who wishes to silence criticism of politicians""

John McCain is a dangerous man for a number of reasons beyond the above stated one.


13 posted on 08/30/2004 8:04:46 AM PDT by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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To: MamaLucci
Rumors are rampant that McCain is is setting himself up to run for POTUS in 2008.

And if McCain is to be successful, he has to find a way to stifle the critics.

14 posted on 08/30/2004 8:07:29 AM PDT by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington (John Kerry fled while good men bled.)
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To: js1138
OK. It seems to me though that it's going to be pretty difficult to do the ads without actually naming one of the candidates.

I'm a free speech guy anyway, so I don't think there should be any restrictions at all on the ads.

15 posted on 08/30/2004 8:08:12 AM PDT by jpl (John Kerry is the 2-7 offsuit in the great Presidential poker race.)
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To: jpl

The SwiftVets can say anything they want because they don't take corporate or uninon donations.


16 posted on 08/30/2004 8:11:01 AM PDT by js1138 (Speedy architect of perfect labyrinths.)
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To: PeterPrinciple
Correction: All it took was a group of Navy Swift boat veterns WITH THE TRUTH about Kerry.

Very good point.........what makes these guys so powerful, is that they do indeed have truth on their side.

17 posted on 08/30/2004 8:12:08 AM PDT by MamaLucci (Libs, want answers on 911? Ask Clinton why he met with Monica more than with his CIA director.)
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To: PeoplesRepublicOfWashington

Senator McCain's health problems will not permit him to run in 4 more years. He's not getting any younger either-he'll be 72 in '08. Just an opinion, of course.


18 posted on 08/30/2004 8:22:17 AM PDT by donozark (I fought at the Battle of Kimchi Ridge. The gas...the gas...it was HORRIBLE!)
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To: MamaLucci

The POW ad was devastating. O'Neil alluded to a "surprise" or "somethinging coming" in Sept./Oct. re:Swift Boat info. Could it be the Coup de Grace' for JF Kerry?


19 posted on 08/30/2004 8:24:14 AM PDT by donozark (I fought at the Battle of Kimchi Ridge. The gas...the gas...it was HORRIBLE!)
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To: donozark
Senator McCain's health problems will not permit him to run in 4 more years.

I can only hope that you're right. What health problems do you refer to? Mental health problems? If so, I think those will work toward seeing him run.

20 posted on 08/30/2004 8:29:48 AM PDT by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington (John Kerry fled while good men bled.)
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